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Number 16 Bus Shelter
2nd July 2009, 04:41
Greetings Revleft members.

I need some advice from you, comrades :thumbup1:

Heres the plan.
I'm going to write a 'leaflet' for lack of a better word, which I will put in the letterboxes of the area in which I will live.
I'll start out with a couple hundred and go on from there.

I want to wake people up, to clear their mind from the drug of conformity. To open their eyes to this capitalist slavery.
I want to show them that their IS an alternative a better way, and that communism is not what western media has portrayed it to be.
I don't want to led them, and I don't want to force opinions upon them. I don't want to give them my revolution.
What I do want is every man and woman out there to start thinking for themselves, and for everyone of them to realize their own personal revolution.
So that their revolution is internal not forced upon them.

BUT (There's alwys one of those isn't there?) I'm not sure how to do this?
I could write a through essay, with facts and logic. But that would alienate people. I doubt it would achieve much.

How could I create something that will hit people hard, to make them think?

P.S - Im in New Zealand. :rolleyes:

ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ ıɯɐbıɹo
2nd July 2009, 04:49
Create a stencil for spray painting with the facts on it. Something simple like the hammer and sickle with instructions on what you want it to be used for (making art) and some other things about leftism you'd like to point out have been unfairly portrayed. Any good?

Number 16 Bus Shelter
2nd July 2009, 04:56
That will probably grab peoples attention a lot faster than a leaflet. Great idea.
I could do both- First spraypaint, get the word out, then later give people information on it?

But will spraypainting stop people from taking the idea seriously?:confused:

ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ ıɯɐbıɹo
2nd July 2009, 05:01
That will probably grab peoples attention a lot faster than a leaflet. Great idea.
I could do both- First spraypaint, get the word out, then later give people information on it?

But will spraypainting stop people from taking the idea seriously?:confused:

If graffiti is wrong I'll never want to be right. Anarchism may be looked down upon as a teenage thing now, but it still steadily grows. Thanks to the freedom of the graffiti-er who leads the way in making the world seem less rigid, many people have seriously considered it. I think.

Number 16 Bus Shelter
2nd July 2009, 05:20
If graffiti is wrong I'll never want to be right. Anarchism may be looked down upon as a teenage thing now, but it still steadily grows. Thanks to the freedom of the graffiti-er who leads the way in making the world seem less rigid, many people have seriously considered it. I think.

Thats right- people cling like drowning men to social conventions, for no other reason then that it is the way it always has been

RESIST! Create the spark that will set fire to the world

Number 16 Bus Shelter
2nd July 2009, 05:21
However does anyone have any ideas for a pamphlet/leaflet??

IrishWorker
2nd July 2009, 09:58
However does anyone have any ideas for a pamphlet/leaflet??



You would be better to apply Marxist thought to local issues.
Sit down with your local newspaper look at the articles in it pick a few that you can comment on then write them up again from a Marxist perspective. Then throw in a few International articles from the web and hey presto you have your fortnightly local Marxist newsletter.
Make sure you put your email or phone number on it so interested people can contact you.

Q
2nd July 2009, 12:02
It is my impression that randomly going to flyer around leaflets that just contain facts is a waste of time and resources. What is needed is agitation (pointing out what is wrong with society and calling for an alternative), education (deeper discussion, activism) and organisation (set some concrete goals that you can reach and organise to reach them). In other words, you need something of a leadership, something you're avoiding (presumably because of the misconception, that many anarchists have, that leadership is "wrong").

In other words: if you leaflet, do it to organise a meeting, to discuss problems you have in your neighbourhood or city, to do something about that and how this fits in a greater strategy of workers taking power.

IrishWorker
2nd July 2009, 12:12
It is my impression that randomly going to flyer around leaflets that just contain facts is a waste of time and resources. What is needed is agitation (pointing out what is wrong with society and calling for an alternative), education (deeper discussion, activism) and organisation (set some concrete goals that you can reach and organise to reach them). In other words, you need something of a leadership, something you're avoiding (presumably because of the misconception, that many anarchists have, that leadership is "wrong").

In other words: if you leaflet, do it to organise a meeting, to discuss problems you have in your neighbourhood or city, to do something about that and how this fits in a greater strategy of workers taking power.


All good ideas chara but I would advise him to start of with a Newsletter based on local social issues from a Marxist perspective as from his posts he seems like he is a individual and not connected to any movement.
A decent well put together Newsletter based on local community issues is a fantastic idea fair play to him.
It will always lead to meeting other like minded people in his own area.
A solid foundation.

Q
2nd July 2009, 12:56
All good ideas chara but I would advise him to start of with a Newsletter based on local social issues from a Marxist perspective as from his posts he seems like he is a individual and not connected to any movement.
A decent well put together Newsletter based on local community issues is a fantastic idea fair play to him.
It will always lead to meeting other like minded people in his own area.
A solid foundation.
One does not exclude the other. Having a meeting can lead to great articles for such a newspaper and you'd better be able to run it if you're with a group then alone. Meeting people is the first step, whether you do that by a meeting, by trying to leaflet or by other ways is not all that important.

The Ungovernable Farce
2nd July 2009, 13:01
You would be better to apply Marxist thought to local issues.
Sit down with your local newspaper look at the articles in it pick a few that you can comment on then write them up again from a Marxist perspective. Then throw in a few International articles from the web and hey presto you have your fortnightly local Marxist newsletter.
Make sure you put your email or phone number on it so interested people can contact you.
I'd say pretty much this, but I'd have used the A-word instead of the M-word. ;) But yeah, what are the main problems in your local area? What do people see as being relevant to them? People'll be a lot more sympathetic to your ideas if they can see how they relate to their lives.

Also, have you encountered AWSM (http://awsm.org.nz/) at all? Think they're mostly based in Wellington. They might have some people in your area, but if not, they should still have some decent New Zealand anarcho-communist propaganda you could nick.

Organic Revolution
2nd July 2009, 15:15
It is my impression that randomly going to flyer around leaflets that just contain facts is a waste of time and resources. What is needed is agitation (pointing out what is wrong with society and calling for an alternative), education (deeper discussion, activism) and organisation (set some concrete goals that you can reach and organise to reach them). In other words, you need something of a leadership, something you're avoiding (presumably because of the misconception, that many anarchists have, that leadership is "wrong").

In other words: if you leaflet, do it to organise a meeting, to discuss problems you have in your neighbourhood or city, to do something about that and how this fits in a greater strategy of workers taking power.

This is the only logical idea I have read in this entire thread. Leafletting? spray paint? Those are tools to use, but not the tool to use. Social organization is the only logical option.

IrishWorker
2nd July 2009, 18:34
This is the only logical idea I have read in this entire thread. Leafletting? spray paint? Those are tools to use, but not the tool to use. Social organization is the only logical option.



Yes your right about getting involved in a an organization its the only logical outcome but if none exist in this lads area then what?
Sitting down and putting his thoughts on social issues onto paper getting the leaflets printed up doing the doors with them meeting and interacting with "joe bloggs" whist encouraging them to read your Newsletter physically putting your politics into peoples homes.
Those are the things that count individually or collectively and should be encouraged by all left thinking people.
Fair play to the young lad and if I had a spare few grand for the plane fare id be out giving him a hand.

ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ ıɯɐbıɹo
3rd July 2009, 01:15
This is the only logical idea I have read in this entire thread. Leafletting? spray paint? Those are tools to use, but not the tool to use. Social organization is the only logical option.

That wasn't the question of the thread, he wanted to know what kind of materials he could hand out to others in order to promote left ideals. Heck, they could be for a DIY festival, having this thread doesn't exclude the possibility of organizing, he's asking about being able to make new materials, possible for redistribution by others who are his ideological brothers.

IrishWorker
3rd July 2009, 01:30
That wasn't the question of the thread, he wanted to know what kind of materials he could hand out to others in order to promote left ideals. Heck, they could be for a DIY festival, having this thread doesn't exclude the possibility of organizing, he's asking about being able to make new materials, possible for redistribution by others who are his ideological brothers.


Your dead right chara I’ve gotten the impression on this thread that some posters are more interested in promoting there elitist agenda rather than actually giving budding socialists a bit of practical knowledge.
Sad really.

Q
3rd July 2009, 07:31
Your dead right chara I’ve gotten the impression on this thread that some posters are more interested in promoting there elitist agenda rather than actually giving budding socialists a bit of practical knowledge.
Sad really.
How is promoting socialist ideas through action elitist :confused:

The OP wants to promote the ideas of self-emancipation and a socialist alternative. He also stated however that he "doesn't want to force his ideas upon others" and that "everyone should have their own personal revolution".

Herein lies a contradiction as socialist ideas, the ideas of self-emancipation, can only be effectively transmitted through collective action. That is the underlying point why I made my first post in this thread. Striving for "personal revolutions" is an utter waste of time and I consider these hippy ideas more of a blockade to working class liberation then an asset to it.

Manifesto
3rd July 2009, 18:56
Well I feel that I have to mention that you definitely should not have a hammer and sickle on the cover. I just feel that this would push most people away from reading it with the whole "Communism bad" thing.

IrishWorker
3rd July 2009, 22:51
How is promoting socialist ideas through action elitist :confused:

The OP wants to promote the ideas of self-emancipation and a socialist alternative. He also stated however that he "doesn't want to force his ideas upon others" and that "everyone should have their own personal revolution".

Herein lies a contradiction as socialist ideas, the ideas of self-emancipation, can only be effectively transmitted through collective action. That is the underlying point why I made my first post in this thread. Striving for "personal revolutions" is an utter waste of time and I consider these hippy ideas more of a blockade to working class liberation then an asset to it.


Don’t listen to this ejit lad.

You are on the right track to building you’re profile within the community you live in. Toward workers respecting you’re views and taking on board you’re ideas.
As I said, individually or collectively we are all on the one road we all strive for the same just and equal society if you’re actions (however small they seem to some people) make one single difference to one single person then you have achieved the foremost honor that socialist society proclaims.
TRUTH JUSTICE PEACE

Number 16 Bus Shelter
4th July 2009, 12:20
Sorry, Ive been away.
Fantastic Ideas...
Irish worker, You're up for a medal there ::)

I am an Individual at the moment, unfortunately. The great wonders of living in rual NZ, no one else gives a toss about politics.:cursing:

But absolutely - I'll take up the notion of putting a Marxist/Anarcho spin on local problems and publish that.

I try and get a local organisation together while Im at it.
Probably advertise a meeting and ask for those interested on the leaflet.

When I stated that "I do not wish to force my ideas upon others"
I meant that I would rather show the truth to people and let them come to the conclusions themselves, rather than giving people the answer straight up.
I'm hoping their conclusion would be decidedly left-wing :lol:

Once again, my gratitude.

More Fire for the People
4th July 2009, 12:23
Climb a tall building.
Go out on the balcony.
Start tearing pages out of the Communist Manifesto
Throw the pages to wind
Watch people passing buy pick them up with interest

JimmyJazz
5th July 2009, 00:19
If we find ourselves stooping to the same tactics as Jesus freaks (dropping tracts to get our message out), that should probably give us pause.

The Ungovernable Farce
6th July 2009, 16:39
Sorry, Ive been away.
Fantastic Ideas...
Irish worker, You're up for a medal there ::)

I am an Individual at the moment, unfortunately. The great wonders of living in rual NZ, no one else gives a toss about politics.:cursing:

But absolutely - I'll take up the notion of putting a Marxist/Anarcho spin on local problems and publish that.

As I said, getting in touch with AWSM could be your best bet. They many not have anyone near you if you live in a rural area, but they might still be useful somehow.

Code
7th July 2009, 18:49
If we find ourselves stooping to the same tactics as Jesus freaks (dropping tracts to get our message out), that should probably give us pause.

As long as it wakes people up who cares if the "Jesus freaks" use it too?
Hell, they probably use it cuz it WORKS!