Queen to ask for more money via the Civil List. Anarchist Federations responce:

[h0m0revolutionary]

Recently financial accounts were published showing just how much it costs the British taxpayer to keep the Monarchy. It appears that over the last financial year the cost of raising these over-privileged scroungers (privileged just by accident of birth!) has increased by no less than £1.5million to a staggering £41.5million. Bargain!


What is even more remarkable about this huge sum of taxpayer money given to the inhabitants of Buckingham palace (...and their families, butlers, drivers, security etc. etc.) is that this sum of £41.5million looks set to increase when in a widely speculated move the Queen will ask for a significant increase in her Civil List (this is a list of individuals to whom money is paid by the government). This reveals that every individual in the United Kingdom pays 69p a year to keep these hereditary spongers!


We in the Anarchist Federation realise that the cost of caviar, Bollinger champagne and gourmet restaurant meals have increased dramatically and we sympathise (honestly).. but we are shocked that they have the audacity, during what is termed the 'worst financial crisis since WW2' to ask for more money! 100, 000 going unemployed every month, job seekers allowance at a measly £45 quid a week and the Royal Family get millions of our money to fund their lavish, care free lifestyle.


How much it costs ordinary working people like us to uphold this family of spongers however is irrelevant, they should go just like all other useless and power-gorging Lords, MP's, Bishops, aristocrats and suchlike. But what makes this family particularly notable is the extent of their theft from the taxpayer – retaining their undeserved positions of unmerited social standing and unearned wealth and we foot the bill!


What other family do you know that has:


“Crown Estate” property to the value of £7.6 billion
A head (in this case the queen) with a personal fortune estimated at £650 million1 (http://www.revleft.com/vb/#sdfootnote1sym)
484, 000 square feet of castle (Windsor) and another at 65, 000 acres (Balmoral)
Five Palaces
£15 million given to them by government for upkeep of residences, complemented by approximately £18 million to cover costs of travel2 (http://www.revleft.com/vb/#sdfootnote2sym)
£20 million in cash and investments
An estimated £1 billion worth of artwork
£130 million worth of jewellery



and the list goes on.. and on.. and on..


More sinister however is not that fact that this wealth was unearned or even the fact that a significant proportion of the monarchs wealth is taxpayer funded. But what is striking about the whole scam that is the British monarchy, is the lengths our less-than-loved MP's and political elite go to, to protect them. This article for instance could land the author in prison, after all according to the (still standing) Treason Felony Act 1848, it is treason if "any person whatsoever, within the United Kingdom or without devise or intend to deprive our most gracious Lady the Queen from the style, honor or Royal Name of the Imperial Crown of the United Kingdom.". This coupled with a barrage of mainstream media, pro-Monarchy propaganda is enough to make anyone curious as to just why our political representatives are so quick to defend a job that descends by birthright though the inbred descendants of some long-dead murdering megalomaniac. Could it be because their own jobs are equally as useless, costly and archaic?


Collecting together some of the rough estimate of the tax-payer cost to fund the Royal Family (they're very secretive about their finances – wonder why?) the total cost comes to approximately £75million! That would pay the University tuition fees of 75,000 of the poorest students, fund 25 new secondary schools, or pay for the running of an entire hospital. When people are forced to sleep on the streets, to work several jobs to feed themselves and their families or forced to work in insecure, monotonous jobs, a bill of £75, 000, 000 for a relic is insane!


We in the Anarchist Federation don't want a cheaper Royal Family, or a nicer Royal Family. We don't hold that by accident of birth anybody should sponge off decent working people. Their only use is to promote the myth of the perfect nuclear family, look down on us common folk, wave alot and to whip up nationalism and 'British Empire' nostalgia. And all for the bargain price of just £75 million? Not in our name thanks.


1 (http://www.revleft.com/vb/#sdfootnote1anc)http://www.forbes.com/2008/08/20/worlds-richest-royals-biz-richroyals08-cz_ts_0820royalintro.html

2 (http://www.revleft.com/vb/#sdfootnote2anc)http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/807805.stm

[Hoggy_RS]

Good article. I pity ye having to pay for the up keep of those bastards:(

[Raúl Duke]

Interesting article...is there a link to the original/source?

[h0m0revolutionary]

Interesting article...is there a link to the original/source?

This has been covered in a few places, but i first read it in a local paper ;)

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/Queen-set-to-ask-Ministers.5412589.jp

[rednordman]

This sort of thing really makes me embarrased to be living in the UK. I know that sounds harsh, but the stock market crashes- we barely critisize and reward the responsible capitalists - No one 'physically' does anything. Whiles theres a bad recession on and many people are without work and income, the queen complains about not having enough tax money going to 'her favourites' - You just know that people are going to be like dogs and not do anything.

[Dimentio]

Recently financial accounts were published showing just how much it costs the British taxpayer to keep the Monarchy. It appears that over the last financial year the cost of raising these over-privileged scroungers (privileged just by accident of birth!) has increased by no less than £1.5million to a staggering £41.5million. Bargain!


What is even more remarkable about this huge sum of taxpayer money given to the inhabitants of Buckingham palace (...and their families, butlers, drivers, security etc. etc.) is that this sum of £41.5million looks set to increase when in a widely speculated move the Queen will ask for a significant increase in her Civil List (this is a list of individuals to whom money is paid by the government). This reveals that every individual in the United Kingdom pays 69p a year to keep these hereditary spongers!


We in the Anarchist Federation realise that the cost of caviar, Bollinger champagne and gourmet restaurant meals have increased dramatically and we sympathise (honestly).. but we are shocked that they have the audacity, during what is termed the 'worst financial crisis since WW2' to ask for more money! 100, 000 going unemployed every month, job seekers allowance at a measly £45 quid a week and the Royal Family get millions of our money to fund their lavish, care free lifestyle.


How much it costs ordinary working people like us to uphold this family of spongers however is irrelevant, they should go just like all other useless and power-gorging Lords, MP's, Bishops, aristocrats and suchlike. But what makes this family particularly notable is the extent of their theft from the taxpayer – retaining their undeserved positions of unmerited social standing and unearned wealth and we foot the bill!


What other family do you know that has:


“Crown Estate” property to the value of £7.6 billion
A head (in this case the queen) with a personal fortune estimated at £650 million1 (http://www.revleft.com/vb/#sdfootnote1sym)
484, 000 square feet of castle (Windsor) and another at 65, 000 acres (Balmoral)
Five Palaces
£15 million given to them by government for upkeep of residences, complemented by approximately £18 million to cover costs of travel2 (http://www.revleft.com/vb/#sdfootnote2sym)
£20 million in cash and investments
An estimated £1 billion worth of artwork
£130 million worth of jewellery



and the list goes on.. and on.. and on..


More sinister however is not that fact that this wealth was unearned or even the fact that a significant proportion of the monarchs wealth is taxpayer funded. But what is striking about the whole scam that is the British monarchy, is the lengths our less-than-loved MP's and political elite go to, to protect them. This article for instance could land the author in prison, after all according to the (still standing) Treason Felony Act 1848, it is treason if "any person whatsoever, within the United Kingdom or without devise or intend to deprive our most gracious Lady the Queen from the style, honor or Royal Name of the Imperial Crown of the United Kingdom.". This coupled with a barrage of mainstream media, pro-Monarchy propaganda is enough to make anyone curious as to just why our political representatives are so quick to defend a job that descends by birthright though the inbred descendants of some long-dead murdering megalomaniac. Could it be because their own jobs are equally as useless, costly and archaic?


Collecting together some of the rough estimate of the tax-payer cost to fund the Royal Family (they're very secretive about their finances – wonder why?) the total cost comes to approximately £75million! That would pay the University tuition fees of 75,000 of the poorest students, fund 25 new secondary schools, or pay for the running of an entire hospital. When people are forced to sleep on the streets, to work several jobs to feed themselves and their families or forced to work in insecure, monotonous jobs, a bill of £75, 000, 000 for a relic is insane!


We in the Anarchist Federation don't want a cheaper Royal Family, or a nicer Royal Family. We don't hold that by accident of birth anybody should sponge off decent working people. Their only use is to promote the myth of the perfect nuclear family, look down on us common folk, wave alot and to whip up nationalism and 'British Empire' nostalgia. And all for the bargain price of just £75 million? Not in our name thanks.


1 (http://www.revleft.com/vb/#sdfootnote1anc)http://www.forbes.com/2008/08/20/worlds-richest-royals-biz-richroyals08-cz_ts_0820royalintro.html

2 (http://www.revleft.com/vb/#sdfootnote2anc)http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/807805.stm

Brilliantly written artwork XD

[Misanthrope]

Absurd, people are starving across the world and this ***** has millions of dollars worth of Jewelry.

[ls]

In b4 "omg ur reformist for not focusing on workers revolution/communes outside of capitalism and revolution only".

[Marx22]

Well golly gee, I thought Monarchy was so cost effective! I mean all those monarchist supporters love to tout how cheap having a monarchy is :laugh:. Oh wow, Kings and Queens, we live in the 21st century ffs.

Great article.

[Dimentio]

But if the people want a monarchy? :(

[*Viva La Revolucion*]

First off all I want to say: fuck the royals. They're all inbred, mentally challenged parasites.

Secondly: what can actually be done about this? How would one go about overthrowing the monarchy? (this is a serious question; I don't think they should exist anymore).

[teenagebricks]

There was quite a big grassroots republican movement here not too long ago, I don't know what happened to it, just kind of faded away. Republic (http://www.republic.org.uk/) are still going quite strong I suppose.

[Revy]

So do you think there will ever be a "Republic of Great Britain" in the near future or is there zero momentum on this issue?

[Dimentio]

I know that in Sweden, about 80% want the monarchy, 5% want a republic and the rest do not know what we have.

[Revy]

First off all I want to say: fuck the royals. They're all inbred, mentally challenged parasites.

Secondly: what can actually be done about this? How would one go about overthrowing the monarchy? (this is a serious question; I don't think they should exist anymore).

"They're all inbred, mentally challenged parasites". :blink:

I'm certainly an avid supporter of the idea of a republic over a monarchy (obviously), but I'm turned off by this kind of rhetoric.

I have to wonder how many people here would take the stand against all the royals being executed just because they're royal. I might not like that the Queen has her position, that does not mean I want to disembowel her, but I kinda get that vibe from some people on here (not talking about you or anyone in particular).

[ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ ıɯɐbıɹo]

You know if you threw out the queen you could have a space program...;):D

[Revy]

You know if you threw out the queen you could have a space program...;):D

Maybe combine the two? Blast the Queen off into outer space! :lol:

[*Viva La Revolucion*]

I'm certainly an avid supporter of the idea of a republic over a monarchy (obviously), but I'm turned off by this kind of rhetoric.

I have to wonder how many people here would take the stand against all the royals being executed just because they're royal. I might not like that the Queen has her position, that does not mean I want to disembowel her, but I kinda get that vibe from some people on here (not talking about you or anyone in particular).

OK, maybe I go slightly over the top when discussing this sort of thing, but it's just anger at the complete injustice of it. I want to make it clear that I'm not calling for the French revolution here. I don't support beheadings or anything like that. :p All I want is for the monarchy to be kicked down from their lofty positions and to be given no privileges or special treatment. I would never support anything that extreme because my belief is that they should be treated like normal people - no better, no worse. And I don't dislike them just because they're royal, either. Part of the reason why I feel the way I do is because most of the accounts I've heard portray them as snobby, ungrateful and unkind people who think they actually deserve to live off other people's money.

There. Hope I've clarified things!

[rednordman]

But if the people want a monarchy? :( There is no real reason for a monarchy in the UK nowadays. The queen knows nothing about politics, and thus leaves it to politcial parties that are out of touch with the people of the uk. I dont even buy this whole 'its good for tourism' arguement. We are not going to demolish the buildings so they could still generate interest.

The more and more time goes on, the less and less involved the royals get involved. Eventually, people are going to realise, that its only a gimmick that means nothing and costs us money (acts as the ultimate symbol of inequality within our country).

These comments are aimed exclusively at the British royal familly, others are not so antaganistic and annoying.

[Revy]

OK, maybe I go slightly over the top when discussing this sort of thing, but it's just anger at the complete injustice of it. I want to make it clear that I'm not calling for the French revolution here. I don't support beheadings or anything like that. :p All I want is for the monarchy to be kicked down from their lofty positions and to be given no privileges or special treatment. I would never support anything that extreme because my belief is that they should be treated like normal people - no better, no worse. And I don't dislike them just because they're royal, either. Part of the reason why I feel the way I do is because most of the accounts I've heard portray them as snobby, ungrateful and unkind people who think they actually deserve to live off other people's money.

There. Hope I've clarified things!

I know what you mean.

I have a feeling if the US was a monarchy like the UK, most people would just blindly accept it like they do there. And I think it would fit well within our celebrity driven media culture. And political dynasties are not uncommon. And even though this country has never been under the UK monarchy it seems like some people here regard it with keen interest as if we were.

We even have a show on NBC called "Kings" which takes place in a country called Gilboa but which might as well be a metaphor for the US, but it's an absolute monarchy. I actually like the show, but not because of that, it's just an interesting story, but I digress....

I would like to see the republican movement in Britain grow immensely. Indeed the institution of monarchy is simply part of the system of capitalism's methods of authoritarian social organization, people being rewarded with huge amounts of wealth from the pockets of the workers, and their only job is to carry on some absurd tradition....I think the royals should be expropriated and brought down to our level, that would be hilarious to see.

[The Idler]

Even the "left-wing" journal of the establishment the New Statesman (http://www.newstatesman.com/life-and-society/2009/07/british-monarchy-royal-public) has devoted an issue to abolishing the monarchy.

[RebelDog]

What gets me about the british public is that they are rabid when it comes to indignation about MP's expenses but when most talk about subsidising the Queen then 'its only 3p each' which is comparable with the costs of MP's. The former are 'elected' and the queen is completely unaccountable. They should wake up and see they are all scrounging bastards, MP's and monarchs alike.

[Andy Bowden]

The most dangerous thing about the Monarchy in the UK isn't the money they get, despite it's obscenity. It's the crown powers they have, and exercise. It's not just some constitutional oddity like mental laws in some US states criminalising dog walking on Sundays or looking at your neighbours goldfish etc. They've actually been used to suspend Governments - in Australia in the 70's and Canada a couple of years ago.

Thats why the Royal Family exists and has historically been defended by the Establishment in the UK. They can use their powers to throw out Governments and be entirely within the law in doing so.

[Saorsa]

Very true. The Whitlam government was hardly revolutionary or even that progressive, but under it Australia was moving away from enthusiastic involvement in the Western imperialist bloc and towards a more non-aligned status (closing down spy bases etc, investigating the spy service ASIO).Then the Governor General dissolved parliament under the orders of the CIA. That's what the monarchy means.

[Revy]

Yeah, in order to become a citizen of Canada you have to swear an oath of loyalty to the Queen. Which is interesting because according to a poll only 5% of Canadians know that the Queen is the Canadian head of state.