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eyedrop
30th June 2009, 13:14
I couldn't find a thread on this so;
Piratebay has now been sold out to Global Gaming Factory X for 60 millions.
"We would like to introduce models which entail that content providers and copyright owners get paid for content that is downloaded via the site, " said Hans Pandeya, in a press realease.
Link (http://www.globalgamingfactory.com/pressrelease-090630-sv.pdf) to the swedish press release. Translated press release (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/global-gaming-factory-x-acquisitions-of-the-pirate-bay-and-new-file-sharing-technology-p2p-20).
It seems like TPB is going the way of Napster and filesharers will be forced to migrate to some other network. Personally i already use Demonoid.
Thoughts?
Dimentio
30th June 2009, 13:22
I couldn't find a thread on this so;
Piratebay has now been sold out to Global Gaming Factory X for 60 millions.
"We would like to introduce models which entail that content providers and copyright owners get paid for content that is downloaded via the site, " said Hans Pandeya, in a press realease.
Link (http://www.globalgamingfactory.com/pressrelease-090630-sv.pdf) to the swedish press release. Translated press release (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/global-gaming-factory-x-acquisitions-of-the-pirate-bay-and-new-file-sharing-technology-p2p-20).
It seems like TPB is going the way of Napster and filesharers will be forced to migrate to some other network. Personally i already use Demonoid.
Thoughts?
Its a sad tragedy. But given the punishments of TPB's owners, I am not surprised.
scarletghoul
30th June 2009, 13:25
What, this is so lame! Ah well, Im sure a similar website can eventually be made
NecroCommie
30th June 2009, 13:31
Fuck copyrights! Make internet democratic again!!! :sneaky:
Sugar Hill Kevis
30th June 2009, 13:36
Piracy didn't die down when Napster folded, neither will it with TPB "going legal". Piracy's developed a long way since the lawsuits against Napster, and it's become a lot more decentralised with a myriad of trackers and torrent indexing websites. There are already viable alternatives to TPB. It's quite sad given that TPB became the symbol of the movement, but c'est la vie.
NecroCommie
30th June 2009, 13:43
Has anyone else noticed how stupid it sounds, when the news talk about piracy as some sort of hideous crime, while they simultaneously know that almost half the population do it.
Are they being ridiculous by design?
Pirate Utopian
30th June 2009, 13:47
That's bullshit.
I know of other torrent sites but none of them match up to TPB.
eyedrop
30th June 2009, 13:49
Has anyone else noticed how stupid it sounds, when the news talk about piracy as some sort of hideous crime, while they simultaneously know that almost half the population do it.
Are they being ridiculous by design?
Yep, even our biggest "communist" newspaper Klassekampen (The class struggle) has articles condemning filesharing. :confused:
I also got the impression from redaing the newspapers for today that suddenly the people behind TPB are now genious entrepenours.
I agree with Kevis that is it just a minor setback.
scarletghoul
30th June 2009, 13:50
This is simply a desperate attempt of the bourgeoisie to claw back their intelectual property rights. This attempt will fail because new pirate sites will emerge. The bourgeois internet regulating ****s are reactionary, and therefore a paper tiger, destined to fail.
Has anyone else noticed how stupid it sounds, when the news talk about piracy as some sort of hideous crime, while they simultaneously know that almost half the population do it.
Are they being ridiculous by design?
It is a hideous crime to the bourgeoisie, consumers of a commodity are not paying capitalists for said commodity due to the ease of its reproduction. It has got the point where not even the bourgeoisie selling the means of reproduction can stop piracy due to the army of hackers undermining DRM methods, there hasn't been a single DRM method that stoped pirates for any signifigant perdiod of time.
The fact the number of priates are growing is just making the beourgeosisie more scared as they see the end result of priacy is over-production (of course there is alraedy overproduction in the entire capitalist system as this crisis shows making the beourgeoisise fight against priracy futile as even if they win they will still have overproduction)
Not too long ago Suprnova was the big thing in torrentland, up to now it was TPB, soon it will also be forgotten in the dusty sidenotes of internet history and be replaced by a new big thing.
Carry on, nothing to see here. Personally I use mininova.
Wanted Man
30th June 2009, 17:26
Right, good luck to TPB. We all know this kind of stuff ends well. Just look at Kazaa: they went legit (as legit as you can get with tons of malware), and everyone is still using Kazaa. Nobody has moved on from Kazaa, right?
Oh, wait.
which doctor
30th June 2009, 17:33
This is what's posted on the TPB site about the possible changes.
TPB might change owner
Yes, it's true.
News reached the press today in Sweden - The Pirate Bay might get aquired by Global Gaming Factory X AB.
A lot of people are worried. We're not and you shouldn't be either!
TPB is being sold for a great bit underneath it's value if the money would be the interesting part. It's not. The interesting thing is that the right people with the right attitude and possibilities keep running the site.
As all of you know, there's not been much news on the site for the past two-three years. It's the same site essentially. On the internets, stuff dies if it doesn't evolve. We don't want that to happen.
We've been working on this project for many years. It's time to invite more people into the project, in a way that is secure and safe for everybody. We need that, or the site will die. And letting TPB die is the last thing that is allowed to happen!
If the new owners will screw around with the site, nobody will keep using it. That's the biggest insurance one can have that the site will be run in the way that we all want to. And - you can now not only share files but shares with people. Everybody can indeed be the owner of The Pirate Bay now. That's awesome and will take the heat of us.
The old crew is still around in different ways. We will also not stop being active in the politics of the internets - quite the opposite. Now we're fueling up for going into the next gear. TPB will have economical muscles to let people evolve it. It will team up with great technicians to evolve the protocols. And we, the people interested in more than just technology, will have the time to focus on that. It's win-win-win.
The profits from the sale will go into a foundation that is going to help with projects about freedom of speech, freedom of information and the openess of the nets. I hope everybody will help out in that and realize that this is the best option for all. Don't worry - be happy!
Dimentio
30th June 2009, 17:34
Pirate Bay will always be remembered. Its more a nostalgia issue than a problem for the file-sharing community.
A little more information from a commenter on Reddit:
To clarify a bit..
TPB has been owned by a company for the last years since the raid so nothing there will really change except the names of the owners. The talk about TPB are going to be a pay site is wrong, the CEO that said that does not know what he is talking about.
Now, the BIG change is that the tracker is going to be outsourced to a new formed company that wont know what they track, just that they connect peers, and the torrent listings will be handed by an other new company that will have torrents but they will not know either content or who is using the torrents. This setup will be practically impossible to take down or find anyone liable to sue.
The 3d party company services will have APIs, so you can on your blog or whatever have your own small torrent listings just as you now pull in twitter feeds. remember how the twitter design totally havoced the iranian attempts to block it as ppl just used another side that pulled in the feeds and read it there instead? well that goes for torrents and TPB to.
All in all, this is not the end of the world as some are seeing it but a rather interesting technical improvement.
And dont worry, not a dime will go to the media industries spectrial prize money what i know of but a really nice fund for doing cool stuff.
/krs - co.founder of TPB and PB, not involved in TPB anymore and have no stake in any cash.
From: http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/8wwkp/they_they_sold_the_pirate_bay/c0aow1t
Communist Theory
1st July 2009, 03:53
It was only a matter of time after the founders went to court.
piet11111
1st July 2009, 19:49
this will only allow pirates to move on to something much harder to take down and track.
evolution almost.
Dimentio
1st July 2009, 19:53
It was only a matter of time after the founders went to court.
And what a court then!
:lol:
All four were given the same sentence! Despite that only one were working with the servers.
The prosecutors and the judge are lobbyists for the record industry!
Pogue
1st July 2009, 22:25
I think its mainly a shame from the perspective that TPB became the name for file sharing, and it was cool and extensive. Things will simply move on somewhere else though, hopefully somewhere with an equally as cool name.
Rusty Shackleford
1st July 2009, 22:36
does anyone know if my current downloads will be affected? im getting Reds and Der Baader Meinhof complex as we speak. and through TPB
and Mininova is a decent alternative.
From what I heard, there is going to be a cascade of traffic onto the other torrent trackers. All that traffic that used to go to the pirate bay is going to get offloaded to smaller trackers. Outages and net congestion are to be expected.
Wanted Man
28th July 2009, 18:20
I'm sorry to gravedig this thread, but IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO POST IN AN EXISTING THREAD THAN TO START A NEW ONE. (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting)
I just read some stuff from a few days ago, and was surprised that nobody had apparently picked up on it.
Specifically: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10288235-93.html
And: http://www.themusicvoid.com/2009/07/exclusive-the-pirate-bay-2-0/
For the lazy: a new TPB executive, Rosso, previously known from Grokster, has said that TPB will be "legitimate" and "above board" from the start. After ejaculating over how the RIAA and music industry kingpins are "wonderful people" for a bit, he explains TPB's new business model, which I'll just quote:
As for the new business model, Rosso said The Pirate Bay will offer users all the music they can download for a small monthly fee. Eventually, users can whittle that fee down to nothing by tying their computers to The Pirate Bay's "cloud" network. For example, a person may dedicate a gig of hardware space to the network and the fee may go from $9 to $5. (Rosso declined to discuss pricing yet so the numbers are made up just for the example).
"The more of your computer resources you contribute to the network, the less you pay down to zero," Rosso said. "The user is in control."
The Pirate Bay then plans to harness all that computing power and sell it, becoming a competitor of Akamai and Amazon's Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2).
So basically, all the stuff about how "TPB will never be a pay site" was a lie. Sure, they can implement all kinds of interesting technologies to make you pay less, or even zero, but from the start, you have to pay for music, films and any other digital content that the "wonderful people" in these industries are willing to make available to you.
Pogue
28th July 2009, 18:22
The King is dead.
Long live the King!
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