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Die Neue Zeit
25th June 2009, 00:28
A few days ago, this quote by Marx was posted in the RevMarx forum:


From the 18th Brumaire of Louis Napoleon:


As against the coalesced bourgeoisie, a coalition between petty bourgeois and workers had been formed, the so-called Social-Democratic party. The petty bourgeois saw that they were badly rewarded after the June days of 1848, that their material interests were imperiled, and that the democratic guarantees which were to insure the effectuation of these interests were called in question by the counterrevolution. Accordingly they came closer to the workers.

On the other hand, their parliamentary representation, the Montagne, thrust aside during the dictatorship of the bourgeois republicans, had in the last half of the life of the Constituent Assembly reconquered its lost popularity through the struggle with Bonaparte and the royalist ministers.

It had concluded an alliance with the socialist leaders. In February, 1849, banquets celebrated the reconciliation. A joint program was drafted, joint election committees were set up and joint candidates put forward. The revolutionary point was broken off and a democratic turn given to the social demands of the proletariat; the purely political form was stripped off the democratic claims of the petty bourgeoisie and their socialist point thrust forward. Thus arose social-democracy.

The new Montagne, the result of this combination, contained, apart from some supernumeraries from the working class and some socialist sectarians, the same elements as the old Montagne, but numerically stronger. However, in the course of development it had changed with the class that it represented.

The peculiar character of social-democracy is epitomized in the fact that democratic-republican institutions are demanded as a means, not of doing away with two extremes, capital and wage labor, but of weakening their antagonism and transforming it into harmony. However different the means proposed for the attainment of this end may be, however much it may be trimmed with more or less revolutionary notions, the content remains the same. This content is the transformation of society in a democratic way, but a transformation within the bounds of the petty bourgeoisie. Only one must not get the narrow-minded notion that the petty bourgeoisie, on principle, wishes to enforce an egoistic class interest. Rather, it believes that the special conditions of its emancipation are the general conditions within whose frame alone modern society can be saved and the class struggle avoided.

Just as little must one imagine that the democratic representatives are indeed all shopkeepers or enthusiastic champions of shopkeepers. According to their education and their individual position they may be as far apart as heaven and earth. What makes them representatives of the petty bourgeoisie is the fact that in their minds they do not get beyond the limits which the latter do not get beyond in life, that they are consequently driven, theoretically, to the same problems and solutions to which material interest and social position drive the latter practically. This is, in general, the relationship between the political and literary representatives of a class and the class they represent.



So it seems that "social democracy" did have non-Marxist origins after all, and that Marxism appropriate both that term and "socialism" once rival tendencies were thrown to the wayside.

I understand the first bolded part, but I'm confused about the second. The Paris Commune's social measures (as opposed to the radical political ones) were rather "social-democratic" in the traditional sense. Any help here would be appreciated.

New Tet
25th June 2009, 01:12
In the second boldface paragraph Marx is talking about social democracy still in the context of the events of 1848; the revolution of the petty bourgeoisie.

Didn't he say something like, the Mountain roared and brought forth a mouse? I suppose the "Montagne" was the working class/petty bourgeois alliance and the mouse was the Republic in the hands of Napoleon the Small. Why, then, would he paraphrase that history repeats itself, first as a tragedy then as a farce?

Of course, unlike the mouse of 1848, the civil war of 1871, the Commune, was not a farcical imitation of 1789 exploited by a wanna-be emperor in a white horse such as was Louis Bonaparte. It was different in so many fundamental ways as [to] require minute study and critical reflection by generations of socialist, not the least of which is the difference between the "social-democracy" practiced by the Republic under Bonaparte and Thiers and the socialist democracy enacted by the people of the Commune.

In my mind, the 18th Brumaire is perhaps the oldest warning against incipient Fascism ever written! I'm sure this has been pointed out before by smarter people than myself...

Tower of Bebel
28th June 2009, 16:01
The Commune's social messures were social-democratic (petty bourgeois) because the city council was dominated by the radical petty bourgeoisie. If it weren't for a newly radicalized working class the commune would have failed to exercice a dictatorship of the proletariat. After all, it was the petty bourgeoisie, not representatives of the International or the militias, which failed to address the problems properly.

blake 3:17
16th July 2009, 01:24
I wonder too if there were parties with no affinity to Marxism that called themselves Social Democratic. I had thought the label had been a spinoff of the Second International.

Holy funk! What an amazing passage. My copy of the Brumaire is out
of reach at the moment, but it seems like the text is right. There are three bits in bold - were you avoiding the third?

I really don't know enough about 1848 (and the few years after) to comment on how valid Marx's comments were. It does describe a phenomenon, ideological and political, which occurs again and again. There's a few discussions on the board on reform, reformism and revolutionary politics and how they relate. I think the most sectarian of us would hope for reforms happening within the capitalist state. Then we end up with sometimes very strange bedfellows...