Elise Tan Roberts, two year old with an IQ of 156

[progressive_lefty]

I've only just heard about her.
Lisa Tan Roberts - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elise_Tan_Roberts),



Link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1175141/Meet-Elise-girl-IQ-higher-Carol-Vorderman.html#)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/30/article-1175141-04BB6177000005DC-49_306x572.jpg

Meet Elise, the girl of two with an IQ higher than Carol Vorderman!
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A lot of learning in a little package: Elise Tan-Roberts who has just become the youngest member of Mensa, with an estimated IQ of 156
Of course it is. I should have known. But then I'm not a child genius with a startlingly high IQ.
And Elise Tan-Roberts - aged two years, four months and two weeks - is.
She has just become the youngest member of Mensa, with an estimated IQ of 156.
That puts her two points higher on the scoreboard than Carol Vorderman, and comfortably in the top 0.2 per cent of children her age.
Here's the best bit, though. She seems to be a sweet little girl with charming parents who simply want her to be happy.
..I'm simply amazed. I saw a documentary on her, she's really quite intelligent.

[scarletghoul]

I thought IQ didn't change with age? so this isnt that amazin

[Module]

IQ is measured with age. So it's not like when she's 20 she's going to have an IQ of 2000 or something.
But yeah, cool.
Not to pathetically stick up for the genius of the glorious Carol Vorderman, but when you get up to scores that high, a difference of two points really does seem meaningless. Your score is also dependent on the type of test you do, no doubt as well as your state of mind during the test, etc.
The person with the Guinness World Record for highest IQ, Marilyn vos Savant, has done a zillion tests and she's had a zillion different results.

[Lacrimi de Chiciură]

my iq is 80

[scarletghoul]

I havent done a IQ test, maybe i should. my mums IQ is 160 apparently but its probably less now because she is middle aged and stressed

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I'd be more impressed with a brief summary of the entry requirements for Mensa. IQ tests are pretty much useless as an objective measurement of intelligence.

[Killfacer]

yeah... well she has got a crap name.

[F9]

My IQ was over 9000 when i was at her age
nowadays...?:lol:

[Panda Tse Tung]

http://assets.knowyourmeme.com/i/345/original/over9000.jpg

[Jia]

My IQ is 140.

[Panda Tse Tung]

Mines 120 :O. But IQ is a worthless measurement of 'intelligence'.

[Module]

IQ's are strange, narcissistic and self serving things when tests are taken without need or in reference to possible mental conditions. My last proper (i.e with psychologist, non-internet) IQ test, which was while I was in my first highschool, 3 or 4 years ago. But I've gone through phases of compulsively Googling and trying to take tests online out of some persistent curiosity of whether my score will remain the same or change, and then eventually I told myself never to take another test again (which I haven't since)!
The woman I mentioned earlier, Guiness World Rec. holder for highest IQ said herself, according to Wiki, "attempts to measure [intelligence] are useless".
I agree with that. I watched a documentary not long ago on 'naughty' children who had been expelled from school, sometimes numerous times, for bad behaviour. The host/main teacher guy 'discovered' for each of the children that the way they learnt was simply different to other children, and they had different sorts of 'intelligences', like physical intelligence, 'musical' intelligence and so on. A quote from him was "some of these kids don't do well in school, disobey the teachers and don't engage in the lessons, but can take a car apart and put it back together. You can't tell me somebody who can do that isn't intelligent"; and I think that's true. There are common perceptions of what makes somebody 'smart' and what makes somebody 'stupid' which aren't really reflective of the wide variety of abilities human beings have. From what I can see, certain skills typically associated with 'intelligence' and 'genius' have changed slightly throughout history, no doubt with the emerging technologies and different ways to be ecomically successful and therefore socially valuable. But honestly, I can't, or at least can't be bothered trying to, think up concrete examples of what I mean, so just take it or leave it. :lol:
Edit: I won't say exactly what my score was, but I will say I'm actually only a few points off Carol Vorderman, myself. ;) (So maybe that's a good reason for me to say, as I did earlier, 'a few points don't matter!'...? Again, take it or leave it... :p)

[Killfacer]

IQ's are strange, narcissistic and self serving things when tests are taken without need or in reference to possible mental conditions. My last proper (i.e with psychologist, non-internet) IQ test, which was while I was in my first highschool, 3 or 4 years ago. But I've gone through phases of compulsively Googling and trying to take tests online out of some persistent curiosity of whether my score will remain the same or change, and then eventually I told myself never to take another test again (which I haven't since)!
The woman I mentioned earlier, Guiness World Rec. holder for highest IQ said herself, according to Wiki, "attempts to measure [intelligence] are useless".
I agree with that. I watched a documentary not long ago on 'naughty' children who had been expelled from school, sometimes numerous times, for bad behaviour. The host/main teacher guy 'discovered' for each of the children that the way they learnt was simply different to other children, and they had different sorts of 'intelligences', like physical intelligence, 'musical' intelligence and so on. A quote from him was "some of these kids don't do well in school, disobey the teachers and don't engage in the lessons, but can take a car apart and put it back together. You can't tell me somebody who can do that isn't intelligent"; and I think that's true. There are common perceptions of what makes somebody 'smart' and what makes somebody 'stupid' which aren't really reflective of the wide variety of abilities human beings have. From what I can see, certain skills typically associated with 'intelligence' and 'genius' have changed slightly throughout history, no doubt with the emerging technologies and different ways to be ecomically successful and therefore socially valuable. But honestly, I can't, or at least can't be bothered trying to, think up concrete examples of what I mean, so just take it or leave it. :lol:
Edit: I won't say exactly what my score was, but I will say I'm actually only a few points off Carol Vorderman, myself. ;) (So maybe that's a good reason for me to say, as I did earlier, 'a few points don't matter!'...? Again, take it or leave it... :p)

or in other words: "look at me i'm a fucking genius".

[Comrade B]

A 100 IQ is the average IQ for your age, 200 is twice your age, 50 is half your mental age. A 2 year old with a 150 IQ would have the intelligence of an average 3 year old.

[Killfacer]

A 100 IQ is the average IQ for your age, 200 is twice your age, 50 is half your mental age. A 2 year old with a 150 IQ would have the intelligence of an average 3 year old.

how the hell did you work that out?

[New Tet]

I'd be more impressed with a brief summary of the entry requirements for Mensa. IQ tests are pretty much useless as an objective measurement of intelligence.

I've always scored in the mid to low 60's. But I'm not ashamed of that! At least I can lord it over my inferior competitors, you know, the guys in the 40-54 range, ha, ha!

Reading The Mismeasure of Man by Stephen Jay Gould confirmed my adolescent suspicion that I.Q. was just another way of spelling E-G-O.

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/bibliography.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Jay_Gould
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mismeasure_of_Man

[jake williams]

how the hell did you work that out?
Grade 8 fractions.

The little girl is probably very smart for her age. That's kind of cool. It is possible that the standard deviation for IQ in very young children is smaller than that among older people, and so it may well be rarer for a 2 year old to have a 150 some IQ than it would be for a 20 year old to (although it may also be the other way around - at any rate the measurements are difficult to make with young children as it is based on age). But yeah, with all the statistical clarifications and reservations about the meaning of IQ, it's not too too exciting.

[Comrade B]

This is how IQ works, lets say Billy is 10, Billy's IQ is 130
age*(IQ*.01)=mental age, so Billy would be
10*(130*.01)=13

[Sean]

This is how IQ works, lets say Billy is 10, Billy's IQ is 130
age*(IQ*.01)=mental age, so Billy would be
10*(130*.01)=13
Or X*white*how good you are at practising IQ tests =

[Comrade B]

heh, that too, pretty culturally biased.

[Il Medico]

I havent done a IQ test, maybe i should. my mums IQ is 160 apparently but its probably less now because she is middle aged and stressed
If your mom had that score then she scored the same as Einstein. As for me I scored 149, so apparently I am a genius. It is a great ego builder, but I doubt that anyone is going to take my lectures on class system anymore seriously if they know I am a "genius". Einstein wrote many articles supporting and calling for socialism. However, people were (and are still) so brainwashed that even the most respected mind in the 20th century could not convince them.

EDIT: Above 140 is genius.

[Guerrilla22]

The idea that IQ test can measure intelligence is a myth.

[ckaihatsu]

The woman I mentioned earlier, Guiness World Rec. holder for highest IQ said herself, according to Wiki, "attempts to measure [intelligence] are useless".


Oh, *great*, now that's throwing off the whole curve -- ! When the mountain climber makes it to the top of Mount Everest and then says "Mountains ain't shit" that means we're *all* fucked...!

That statement by the highest IQ record-holder is the equivalent of Tron beating the Master Control Program and then escaping out into the real world -- now what the hell are we gonna do???


x D





A 100 IQ is the average IQ for your age, 200 is twice your age, 50 is half your mental age. A 2 year old with a 150 IQ would have the intelligence of an average 3 year old.




how the hell did you work that out?




That's gotta be worth about 25 points right there -- you stunned the audience...!


x D

[Mujer Libre]

Originally Posted by Comrade B http://www.revleft.com/vb/../revleft/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.revleft.com/vb/../showthread.php?p=1475608#post1475608)

A 100 IQ is the average IQ for your age, 200 is twice your age, 50 is half your mental age. A 2 year old with a 150 IQ would have the intelligence of an average 3 year old.
Except... I don't think that a 3 year old would necessarily be 1.5 times smarter than your average 2 year old. While IQ is standardised according to age, it's not directly proportional to age- especially not in a linear fashion.

I haven't had a formal IQ test in years, but when I was 12 I insisted that I wanted to take a Mensa test. I scored 166, then couldn't be bothered to actually join Mensa because I had no idea what the point was... But yeah, IQ tests are very culturally biased and biased towards a certain style of reasoning. It just so happened that I have a family (nuclear and extended) who are... slightly obsessed with language and literature, so I think the precision of language this gave me puts me at a distinct advantage in tests of logic and reasoning.

I still only get average marks in Medicine though. But, unlike some of my colleagues, I have a life. :lol:

[Killfacer]

:blink:

[Communist Theory]

The Anti-Christ needs to be smart.
:laugh: