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Bitter Ashes
23rd June 2009, 15:47
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Yes, you heard right. They're claiming that this is direct democracy


I. Decisions should be taken as closely as possible to the people they affect.
II. Decision-makers should be directly elected.
III. Citizens should be as free as possible from state coercion.
IV. Local authorities should be self-financing.
V. Policing should be brought under local democratic control.
VI. The state should fund, rather than administer, education.
VII. The state should fund, rather than administer, healthcare.
VIII. Taxes should be simple, fair, transparent, efficient, competitive and low.
IX. The supremacy of Parliament should be guaranteed over ministers, judges, officials and foreign treaty obligations.
X. Candidates for public office should be selected from the widest possible base.


Are you scratching your heads yet?

This is clearly a doublethink manuevre to try misrepresent what direct democracy really mean. Either thar, or they're really really stupid and think that it's a nice name for thier set of reforms on represenative democracy. Dont let them tarnish the name of Direct Democracy and make sure that people know what Direct Democracy REALLY is before this lot of clowns hijack the term.

Die Neue Zeit
24th June 2009, 01:48
The Tories aren't going to be that successful with this new spin, thankfully.

Bitter Ashes
24th June 2009, 02:17
Lets hope not. What I'm concerned about is that this gets publicised by big media to the point where most people believe that direct democracy means some Tory reform, not the abolition of represenatives like Tories altogether.

Dimentio
25th June 2009, 01:46
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Yes, you heard right. They're claiming that this is direct democracy



Are you scratching your heads yet?

This is clearly a doublethink manuevre to try misrepresent what direct democracy really mean. Either thar, or they're really really stupid and think that it's a nice name for thier set of reforms on represenative democracy. Dont let them tarnish the name of Direct Democracy and make sure that people know what Direct Democracy REALLY is before this lot of clowns hijack the term.

I find it unlikely that they would implement such reforms.

Die Neue Zeit
27th June 2009, 20:59
The real reason why the Tories won't succeed in this crap is because they will alienate those petit-bourgeois and "semi-worker" (self-employed) folks who are for liberal "republicanism" and against "democracy" / "mob rule" - you know, the "libertarian" types.

Old Man Diogenes
27th June 2009, 21:19
All the politicians are criminals anyway. My friend actually mentioned this to me when I was talking to him about direct democracy and I was strucken with disbelief when I heard him mention that David Cameron often talks about direct democracy (though I doubt if he knows what it actually means). I agree with you Ranma42 this sounds like a reform on representative democracy, they've dressed it up and given it a shiny new bow-tie and given it a new name. The Tories will forever be reactionary, and are incapable (as are most, if not all parties) at offering direct democracy.

ls
27th June 2009, 21:26
Oh yeah, hm.. what Jacob said tbh. They are already busy alienating hardcore conservatives so they vote for shit like UKIP, so you know....