View Full Version : Are the Iranian Protests Another US Orchestrated "Color Revolution?"
Yazman
21st June 2009, 20:21
Source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14040
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A number of commentators have expressed their idealistic belief in the purity of Mousavi, Montazeri, and the westernized youth of Terhan. The CIA destabilization plan, announced two years ago (see below) has somehow not contaminated unfolding events.
The claim is made that Ahmadinejad stole the election, because the outcome was declared too soon after the polls closed for all the votes to have been counted. However, Mousavi declared his victory several hours before the polls closed. This is classic CIA destabilization designed to discredit a contrary outcome. It forces an early declaration of the vote. The longer the time interval between the preemptive declaration of victory and the release of the vote tally, the longer Mousavi has to create the impression that the authorities are using the time to fix the vote. It is amazing that people don’t see through this trick.
As for the grand ayatollah Montazeri’s charge that the election was stolen, he was the initial choice to succeed Khomeini, but lost out to the current Supreme Leader. He sees in the protests an opportunity to settle the score with Khamenei. Montazeri has the incentive to challenge the election whether or not he is being manipulated by the CIA, which has a successful history of manipulating disgruntled politicians.
There is a power struggle among the ayatollahs. Many are aligned against Ahmadinejad because he accuses them of corruption, thus playing to the Iranian countryside where Iranians believe the ayatollahs' lifestyles indicate an excess of power and money. In my opinion, Ahmadinejad's attack on the ayatollahs is opportunistic. However, it does make it odd for his American detractors to say he is a conservative reactionary lined up with the ayatollahs.
Dimentio
21st June 2009, 20:46
Mousavi and his colleagues are seen as notoriously corrupt, but no, I cannot think that.
Rather, it is a struggle within the ruling class in Iran, where its mostly between millionarie mullahs and the military-revolutionary islamist groups. But the uprising is probably conducted by masses who want to scrap the entire theocracy.
REDSOX
22nd June 2009, 00:28
The more i look at these protests the more i smell CIA,NED ETC. It wouldnt surprise me if in Langley Virginia there is a chart with all the countries they dont like and have attatched a colour to each one. ie
Ukraine Orange
Georgia Rose
Burma Saffron
Bolivia Purple
Iran Green????????????????????
I am not saying that all of mousavi's supporters are being controlled by the imperialists but their leaders almost certainly are or are at least co-operating with them. Some of the protesters though not all have been wearing green and the protests are already being called the Green revolution. Dodgy as fuck
Yazman
22nd June 2009, 14:07
Reposted from other thread, I suspect many did not see it as it was buried under a mountain of angry debate:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1552784/Bush-sanctions-black-ops-against-Iran.html
snippet (my emphases placed):
Bush sanctions 'black ops' against Iran
President George W Bush has given the CIA approval to launch covert "black" operations to achieve regime change in Iran, intelligence sources have revealed.
Mr Bush has signed an official document endorsing CIA plans for a propaganda and disinformation campaign intended to destabilise, and eventually topple, the theocratic rule of the mullahs.
Under the plan, pressure will be brought to bear on the Iranian economy by manipulating the country's currency and international financial transactions.
Details have also emerged of a covert scheme to sabotage the Iranian nuclear programme, which United Nations nuclear watchdogs said last week could lead to a bomb within three years.
Security officials in Washington have disclosed that Teheran has been sold defective parts on the black market in a bid to delay and disrupt its uranium enrichment programme, the precursor to building a nuclear weapon.
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The CIA will also be allowed to supply communications equipment which would enable opposition groups in Iran to work together and bypass internet censorship by the clerical regime.
Sasha
22nd June 2009, 14:59
no, choosing the color green is just a very smart an probely well calculated move, green represents both the islamic revolution and mousavi's (aclaimed) family relation with both prophet mohammed (islam) and iman hussein (martyrdom).
in this way he can present himself as the rightfull heir of these people and so also too the islamic revolution, he instantly transform any supporter wearing green getting beaten or killed by the regime into an martyr and makes it very hard for the regime to portray him as an heretic cia puppet.
Nakidana
22nd June 2009, 20:23
Interesting article, read it on counterpunch. I don't think there is any doubt that CIA is working full steam to support the demonstrations.
Let's see what happens...
Devrim
23rd June 2009, 13:28
I am not saying that all of mousavi's supporters are being controlled by the imperialists but their leaders almost certainly are or are at least co-operating with them. Some of the protesters though not all have been wearing green and the protests are already being called the Green revolution. Dodgy as fuck
Of course the major imperialist powers are interested in what is going on in Iran. Of course the US for example has been involved in funding 'disident' groups in Iran for a number of years.
That doesn't mean that every movement that appears in Iran is some sort of imperialist plot. Mousevi, in my opinion, is not a US puppet. I this that he is a hardline member of the regime who has miscalculated in an internal power struggle.
The protests have bought people into the streets. The working class has not yet been able to act in it's own interests. Personally I don't think that it will and that this revolt will be crushed by state violence over the next few days. There is a possibility however small that this repression this will spur the working class take up the struggle.
Devrim
Revy
23rd June 2009, 13:58
on YouTube there are videos of a woman named Neda who was shot in the head by the murderous regime's repressive forces.
Sorry but the CIA never wanted a popular uprising. Do you really think that the state that arises out of this will be some kind of US puppet? Only if the US manages to take control of the situation. If the people take control, they will no more concede to US imperialism than the mullahs, in fact they will be threatened far more by it. Iran going socialist is far more of a threat to US hegemony than Iran staying a repressive Islamist regime. The US has such allies in Saudi Arabia and others like it.
MilitantWorker
23rd June 2009, 15:44
on YouTube there are videos of a woman named Neda who was shot in the head by the murderous regime's repressive forces.
Neda Soltani was killed by volunteer members of Iran's revolution-era militia, the Basij. I doubt any of her murderers were on the state payroll. This partly supports my opinion that many Iranians are viewing these protests as an attempt to destabilize their government, a government brought about by a popular revolution.
I would be surprised if there were not CIA operatives in Iran. However, I highly doubt they are actively attempting to destabilize the country. It undermines much of the talking the Obama administration has done concerning Iran. The same goes for the Israeli Mossad, although I see much more justification for them.
The American Bourgeoisie is definitely doing its part to assert its interests (mostly through ideological means) in the conflict. I saw the son of the former Shah on CNN shedding tears and calling for justice and democracy for the Iranian people.:laugh:
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