The Marxist Leninist Party of Canada?

[hammer and sickle]

Does anyone here know anything about them? I've sent them several emails over the past month or two about joining the party but have recieved no response. I was inquiring about the age requirement of joining because im only 15 years old (to young to join the Communist party of Canada).

[Jorge Miguel]

Yes, a bit. Founded by Hardial Bains, who also founded parties in India and Ireland, amongst other places. He wrote a good book called the Necessity for Change which is worth checking out.

[hammer and sickle]

Yes, a bit. Founded by Hardial Bains, who also founded parties in India and Ireland, amongst other places. He wrote a good book called the Necessity for Change which is worth checking out.
Thanks I might have to pick up a copy :)

[amandevsingh]

I have also contact, being 13, but have received no reply; I suppose when you have 500 supporters (all communist parties, not only this one) they have other jobs ;).
Mr. Bains was, apparently, employed by the CIA to damage the CPI(M) by breaking it into more parts, in return he was paid large sums and was able to move to Canada because of "CPI(M) criticism of Stalin" :sneaky:

[jake williams]

As far as I can tell the MLers are kind of strange. I haven't met any and they don't seem to have too much of a presence, at least where I am (Toronto area). They run a lot of candidates that don't actually show up.


Yes, a bit. Founded by Hardial Bains, who also founded parties in India and Ireland, amongst other places. He wrote a good book called the Necessity for Change which is worth checking out.
I've heard he offered the CPC a lot of money to lead that party, and after it refused he started his own.

[Prairie Fire]

Whoa, whoa... what?

1.
I've heard he offered the CPC a lot of money to lead that party, and after it refused he started his own.

Oh yeah. :rolleyes:

Actually, upon coming to Canada in 1959, Bains approached a CPC member and tried to join. They instead tried to direct him towards the CCF ( the precursor of the social-democratic NDP).

Disgusted with this (and the general stances of the Canadian Kruschevites), he founded an organization called the internationalists which would go on to organize into the Communist Pary of Canada (Marxist-Leninist).


2.
I suppose when you have 500 supporters

Much higher than that.

3.


Mr. Bains was, apparently, employed by the CIA to damage the CPI(M) by breaking it into more parts, in return he was paid large sums and was able to move to Canada because of "CPI(M) criticism of Stalin"

Who told you that?

Bains was a member of the youth wing of the party, not the party proper.

He wouldn't have been more than 19/20 years old when he emmigrated to Canada ( born August 1939, immigrated to Canada 1959)...

You really think that the CIA used teenage provocateurs? Precedent?

Bains would not have been more than 16/17 around the time of the secret speech and the rise of Kruschevite revisionism.
You believe that the Central intelligence agency would trust a 16 year old youth organization cadre to lead a schism in a well established communist party?

No. Bains left the party, and the party fragmented into so many shards, because of their horrible revisionist politics. It goes beyond their endorsement of Kruschev, but their endorsement of Nehru (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehru)and his policies:



" The policies of Nehru were officially presented as progressive by none other than the political force of the Communist Party of India itself, striking at the very definition of what it means to be progressive. The Communist party of India created a dangerous illusion that Nehru was in the progressive wing of the Indian National congress, a blunder that it simply could not rectify..."

" In spite of the views of different factions, and quarrels between them, the communist party of India declared not only the end of the struggle for real independence and freedom for the people, but even the end of class struggle; it argued that the stage of development in India was to carry out the technical-scientific revolution, industrialization and education.

The communist party maintained a permanent illusion about the congress while Nehru and his like carried out the most reactionary policies in every sphere, protecting colonial property and assisting the feudalists and the rising capitalist class, especially the big industrial houses if the Birlas and Tatas....

...Such communists did the fighting for Nehru against "extremists" and "anti-national elements" While finding ways to become closer and closer to the interests of those who stood in the way of people's emancipation."



- Hardial Bains, Thinking about the Sixties

Fast-forward to the present day, where the Communist Party of India(M) has pretty much discredited themselves:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/india-popular-uprising-t111380/index.html



Less rumour, more investigation, please.

[amandevsingh]

I can hardly think that there are more then 500 Communist workers in Canada; more sympathisers, of course, but I was refering to the actual volunteers/candidates.

I was told that one by Mr. Basu himself when MLC came up. (My great grandfather, Harkishan Singh Surjeet, set that one up.) He was spreading a negative message among the SFI students; one which led to splits and divides within the student wing.

[hammer and sickle]

Why do they have their email addresses posted on their website if they don't even intend on returning emails to people who seriously intend on joining? I don't think its that they have not read them yet because the first one I sent was quite a while ago.

[amandevsingh]

I agree, they should at least have an auto-reply saying that they mayn't answer

[Prairie Fire]

The party has been recieving requests for membership for decades.

The thing about CPC-ML is that, as they say, the basis of their party is work. If you want to join the party, generally you get involved in the work.

I don't know where you live hammer and sickle, so I can't direct you to the closest party organization in your area. I would recommend though contacting the Regional comittee Offices:

NOVA SCOTIA
[email protected] ([email protected])

QUEBEC
[email protected] ([email protected])

ONTARIO
[email protected] ([email protected])
[email protected] ([email protected])
[email protected]
[email protected] ([email protected])
[email protected]
[email protected] ([email protected])
[email protected]
[email protected] ([email protected])

ALBERTA
[email protected] ([email protected])
[email protected] ([email protected])

BRITISH COLUMBIA
[email protected] ([email protected])

[hammer and sickle]

Good the work is exactly what Im looking for anything to help further the movement! I want an active organization that will allow me to get involved.