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Die Neue Zeit
19th June 2009, 05:03
Participatory Democracy and the Direct Democracy Question

"Instead of deciding once in three or six years which member of the ruling class was to misrepresent the people in Parliament, universal suffrage was to serve the people […]" (Karl Marx)

Inspired by Marx’s musings on the Paris Commune, awhile back I was fortunate to have found A Space for Participatory Democracy?, a blog by sociologist Mark Frezzo of the Florida Atlantic University. Notwithstanding elements of what could be perceived as an overemphasis on decentralization and stikhiinost, he noted the following:

For the moment, it is sufficient to not that participatory democracy attempts to move beyond the most significant debate in the history of the left – the debate between advocates of “reform” (social democrats favoring the parliamentary path to power) and proponents of “revolution” (communists favoring the seizure of the state apparatus). Notwithstanding profound differences in organization and doctrine, these two approaches – often termed “evolutionary” and “revolutionary” socialism respectively – share an emphasis on party politics and a vision of the state as the primary agent of social transformation.

Present in embryonic form at the founding of the International Workingmen’s Association in 1864 and reaching their mature articulations with the Great Schism in the working-class movement in 1919-1920, these two tendencies defined the trajectory of the left through the Great Depression, the Second World War, the postwar reconstruction, and the peak of US hegemony (1945-early 1970s). However, things began to change in the crisis of the 1970s – a crisis that afflicted Keynesian welfare states in the First World, state socialism in the Second World, and developmental states – whether “bourgeois,” “non-aligned,” or “socialist” – in the Third World. As transnational corporations began to break out of the straitjacket of regulation (culminating in the post-Fordist regime of production), left and center-left parties began to give up on the Keynesian management of capitalism. Over time, the implementation of neoliberal policies created – as an unintended consequence, to be sure – a space for community groups, grassroots movements, NGOs, and other “civil society actors.” This is where the story became interesting. Stay tuned.

One of the central premises behind participatory democracy is parallelism relative to pseudo-representative organs, electorally representative organs, and even genuinely representative organs (again, representation as a concept will be elaborated upon later). For all the traditional emphases on “checks and balances,” parallelism is much more effective. A crude example of parallelism is the concept of dual power between increasingly delegitimized state institutions and alternative institutions. Historically, the WWI-era Provisional Government in Russia was in direct competition with workers’ councils, or soviets, for legitimacy.

Dual power, however, does not address parallelism relative to electorally representative organs, let alone genuinely representative ones. The parallelism of soviets and factory committees was not a form of dual power, since the former organs had just been legitimized by the Bolshevik-led provisional coalition government (provisional until the Soviet constitution of 1918). Add to the mix tenants’ block committees (as opposed to traditional homeowners’ associations), and one finds a much richer parallelism than the one presented by dual power.

The full range of parallelism enables a key observation by Marx on the Paris Commune to be realized once more: the combination of legislative and executive-administrative power within the same organ. Since politicians have proven to be no more competent than “the mob” in specific matters requiring technical knowledge (and in many cases less competent), this combination would abolish the legislative status quo that is based on the French verb parler (“to talk”): parliamentarism.

One key question posed by participatory democracy is the revival of direct democracy (made possible precisely by the existence of highly developed and proper political parties, not in spite of them, noted Kautsky). Said the Russian Marxist Georgi Plekhanov in 1883:

The socialist revolution simplifies all social relationships and gives them a purpose, at the same time providing each citizen with the real possibility of participating directly in the discussion and decision of all social matters. This direct participation of citizens in the management of all social matters presupposes the abolition of the modern system of political representation and its replacement by direct popular legislation.

Although society has become too complex for the whole range of political decisions to be made by potentially time-consuming direct popular legislation, modern communication technology has made possible the revival of the ancient Greek body known as the Assembly, wherein any citizen (albeit exclusive of the female gender and the slave class status, but never exclusive of the remaining non-owners of property) was able to attend, make political speeches, and vote on decisions being discussed. The issues being discussed, of course, would have to be major ones, such as taxation levels and budgetary affairs (both discussed in Chapter 6), and even the age-old questions of war and peace.

The remaining range of political decisions would be left to specialized councils with combined legislative and executive-administrative power over their respective, parallel jurisdictions. How they are composed, and how the concept of representation must be redefined, is the subject of the next section.

The Demarchy Question

“I mean, for example, that it is thought to be democratic for the offices to be assigned by lot, for them to be elected oligarchic, and democratic for them not to have a property-qualification, oligarchic to have one; therefore it is aristocratic and constitutional to take one feature from one form and the other from the other, from oligarchy that offices are to be elected, and from democracy that this is not to be on a property-qualification.” (Aristotle)

Notwithstanding radical republican objections (to be elaborated upon later), the “democracy question” cannot be fully resolved at all without going past Marx himself by giving due consideration to the question’s Greek origins. In his usage of the philosopher Immanuel Kant to read Marx and vice versa, Kojin Karatani wrote this profoundly true and important historical lesson in the Transcritique:

There is one crucial thing we can learn from Athenian democracy in this respect. The ancient democracy was established by overthrowing tyranny and equipped itself with a meticulous device for preventing tyranny for reviving. The salient characteristic of Athenian democracy is not a direct participation of everyone in the assembly, as always claimed, but a systematic control of the administrative power. The crux was the system of lottery: to elect public servants by lottery and to surveil the deeds of public servants by means of a group of jurors who were also elected by lottery [...] Lottery functions to introduce contingency into the magnetic power center. The point is to shake up the positions where power tends to be concentrated; entrenchment of power in administrative positions can be avoided by a sudden attack of contingency. It is only the lottery that actualizes the separation of the three powers. If universal suffrage by secret ballot, namely, parliamentary democracy, is the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, the introduction of a lottery should be deemed the dictatorship of the proletariat.”

Complementing the Assembly in ancient Greece was the Council of 500, which served as the full-time government. This council was formed not by elections at all, but by the random selection of 500 citizens on an annual basis. Such citizens could be selected to serve only twice in their lifetime, for a grand total of two years! So much for non-participatory careerism and bureaucratic excesses!

The same principle of random selection was applied to the legal system, at the apex of which stood the historical high point of sovereign commoner juries, the judge-free People’s Court. The enormous size of the peasant-dominated People’s Court, anytime from 500 jurors to well over a thousand, served as protection against bribery. Elections were reserved mostly for generals, given the need for experience and specialized military knowledge.

A modern implementation of this kind of representation would be indeed on a statistical basis, as opposed to the blatant misrepresentation of age groups, gender groups, ethnicity groups, and certainly classes, all resulting from the bourgeois combination of universal suffrage and elections. The present misrepresentation is compounded by the time wasted on patronage, nepotism, and general questions of personalities – time that could have been better spent discussing and deciding upon issues. Although arguments can be made against pure random selection, they are ineffective against random selections based upon candidates meeting certain technical criteria. These qualified random selections would most certainly be applied to many specialized councils, such as one, for example, that has jurisdiction over an entire public health care system.

What about abusive officials in a modern demarchy, then? Contrary to potential claims by radical republicans, the ability to recall any official immediately is by no means the exclusive property of that oligarchic principle known as elections, since many bourgeois-capitalist states do not have this at all (and, in exceptional cases, limit it to the point of uselessness). It is in fact much closer to the concept of jurors collectively deciding upon a verdict. Also, this ability should be extended to jurors themselves and other legal officials since, as Marx noted, judicial bodies are less independent than depicted in the high halls of liberal idealism:

The judicial functionaries [are] to be divested of that sham independence which had but served to mask their abject subserviency to all succeeding governments to which, in turn, they had taken, and broken, the oaths of allegiance. Like the rest of public servants, magistrates and judges [are] to be [...] responsible, and revocable.

Non-Class-Based Approaches to Participatory Democracy

“That is why the merging of the democratic activities of the working class with the democratic aspirations of other classes and groups would weaken the democratic movement, would weaken the political struggle, would make it less determined, less consistent, more likely to compromise. On the other hand, if the working class stands out as the vanguard fighter for democratic institutions, this will strengthen the democratic movement, will strengthen the struggle for political liberty […] We said above that all socialists in Russia should become Social-Democrats. We now add: all true and consistent democrats in Russia should become Social-Democrats.” (Vladimir Lenin)

From Chartism in the Britain to working-class demands for universal suffrage to “all power to the soviets,” history has shown that the working class is in the best position by far to struggle for participatory democracy. One key aspect of the “battle of democracy” that is never fully discussed among “democratic theory” academics and other ultra-democratist non-workers who are fed up with so-called “liberal democracy” is the Chartist demand regarding legislator pay. Without this demand, political positions would be filled only by those of the propertied classes, namely the bourgeoisie and petit-bourgeoisie. The Paris Commune took this a step further:

From the members of the Commune downwards, the public service had to be done at workman’s wage.

In hindsight, this was a primitive yet bold attempt at applying agency theory to the realm of politics and civil administration: aligning the interests of “agent” officials with the interests of the “principal” population as a whole by means of aligning standards of living. Nowadays, many public officials (and most politicians) have so-called “second jobs” (petit-bourgeois or even bourgeois business activities) that distance them from dealing with the population at large, and abuse their public expense allowances to the point of increasing them in disproportion to pay increases for ordinary workers at large. A modern alignment of standards of living should be based on the median standard of living for professional and other skilled workers, since the statistical mean allows a small minority of high earners to skew the number upward, and should take into consideration expense allowances and related issues.

On a more general note, other classes are not as enthusiastic about participatory democracy. As a class, coordinators prefer scientific management and social engineering. However, since these would-be technocrats share the same ownership relationship to the means of production as the proletariat, this class tends to be not so vocal about it, and in fact qualified random selections can partially realize their preferences. In the case of those who, on a class basis, do not develop society’s labour power and its capabilities, such mainly “middle-income” semi-workers form the demographic core of those who rant against “mob rule” (and even use the word “democracy” pejoratively in their rants) and praise liberal republicanism (as opposed to even radical republicanism), mainly because their ever-atomizing individualism inhibits them from politically interacting with society as a whole.



REFERENCES:



The Civil War in France by Karl Marx [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1871/civil-war-france/ch05.htm]

A Space for Participatory Democracy? by Mark Frezzo [http://www.envisioningdemocracy.net/2008/03/a-space-for-par.html]

Democracy Without Politicians? by Dave Zachariah [http://reality.gn.apc.org/polemic/Zachariah_OnDemocracy.pdf]

Programme of the Social-Democratic Emancipation of Labour Group by Georgi Plekhanov [http://www.marxists.org/archive/plekhanov/1883/xx/sdelg1.htm]

Politics by Aristotle [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0058&query=bekker%20line%3D%23175]

Transcritique: On Kant and Marx by Kojin Karatani [http://books.google.com/books?id=mR1HIJVoy6wC]

Criminal Procedure in Ancient Greece and the Trial of Socrates by Douglas Linder [http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/socrates/greekcrimpro.html]

The Tasks of the Russian Social-Democrats by Vladimir Lenin [http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1897/dec/31b.htm]

Ideas of Leadership and Democracy by Paul Cockshott [www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~wpc/reports/leadershipconcepts.pdf]

ÑóẊîöʼn
19th June 2009, 05:56
Interesting. I've heard of demarchy before of course, but I would love to put it to a real-world test - while it sounds promising on paper, the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune care not for theoretical beauty.

I also wonder if there is a possibility for a synthesis between technocracy, which deals primarily with the technical, nuts-and-bolts aspect of a society, and some form of demarchy, which would seem to me to be ideal for dealing with the more social, interpersonal aspects.

Hyacinth
20th June 2009, 02:05
Interesting. I've heard of demarchy before of course, but I would love to put it to a real-world test - while it sounds promising on paper, the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune care not for theoretical beauty.

I also wonder if there is a possibility for a synthesis between technocracy, which deals primarily with the technical, nuts-and-bolts aspect of a society, and some form of demarchy, which would seem to me to be ideal for dealing with the more social, interpersonal aspects.
There is no reason why the two cannot be wedded. In fact, the selection of administrators and technical experts by lot (from a qualified pool) is a means by which we can avoid the "entrenchment of power in administrative position[s]". To illustrate by example how this might function, consider, for instance, a transportation commission: a certain number of seats could be reserved for commuters, transit workers, technical experts, etc., this ensures the representation on the administrative committee of more than just the voice of technical experts. One might complain that this doesn't ensure the selection of the best qualified technical experts (setting aside the question of who decides, and how to decide, what counts as the best qualification), and fair enough, but I don't see this as a huge issue, insofar as if the advice dolled out by those on committees happens to be bad, open-government and transparency would enable the advice to be criticized and overturned. As well, experts can and do disagree amongst themselves, and the unlikelihood of the same people being selected multiple times by lot to serve on the same committee would allow for a diversity of views to be represented. I see this as a strength, rather than as a weakness, of such a system.

Die Neue Zeit
20th June 2009, 02:15
The Soviet technical "job slot" system was OK (you're in the CC, Politburo, etc. by virtue of holding some specific position in the bureaucracy that needs a spot on the table), but selection by lot would've been leaps ahead of "slate" ratification by show of hands.

eyedrop
24th June 2009, 22:03
I´ll throw in some what I wrote on the article version of this.

I fail to see what you are trying to convey, I miss a conclusion or an evaluation of differing forms of participatory democracy and demarchy. It seems to me you are just wandering around different topics. Well to be fair you did call it musings.




“I mean, for example, that it is thought to be democratic for the offices to be assigned by lot, for them to be elected oligarchic, and democratic for them not to have a property-qualification, oligarchic to have one; therefore it is aristocratic and constitutional to take one feature from one form and the other from the other, from oligarchy that offices are to be elected, and from democracy that this is not to be on a property-qualification.” (Aristotle) Does he think of aristocratic and oligarchic as interchangable terms?

I agree on the basic premise that elected posts is often oligarchic.


The salient characteristic of Athenian democracy is not a direct participation of everyone in the assembly, as always claimed, but a systematic control of the administrative power. The crux was the system of lottery This is a very important part that the socialistic experiements have all failed to follow enough. And it will be essential to future social experiments to keep a control check on administrative power built into the system.

The legislative, executive and judicial powers most of todays governments are built upon doesn't work to any decent degree.



Complementing the Assembly in ancient Greece was the Council of 500, which served as the full-time government. This council was formed not by elections at all, but by the random selection of 500 citizens on an annual basis. Such citizens could be selected to serve only twice in their lifetime, for a grand total of two years! So much for non-participatory careerism and bureaucratic excesses!
Did they change up the entire council at once or change it out a part at a time. I would think changing the council a part at a time would be better as it would ease the transition time as a new council takes place.

For example change out 250 each half year of the total 500.



What about abusive officials in a modern demarchy, then? Contrary to potential claims by radical republicans, the ability to recall any official immediately is by no means the exclusive property of that oligarchic principle known as elections, since many bourgeois-capitalist states do not have this at all (and, in exceptional cases, limit it to the point of uselessness). I can't say that I really see recallability work in borouise states to any satisfactory extent, there are dozens of examples were a majority of the population disagree about a decisions, as for example a war (or rather every war I've lived through) were the state still sends troops.

I have my doubt about the effectivity of recallable mandated representatives due to the social inertia, there must be a much greater effort to overturn a decisions than to go along with it, that must be overcome. But combined with demarchy it may be the best we can achieve where direct democracy is to hasslesome to carry trough.

It can even be argued that a statistical representative random group (of a big enough size), where all the members have a possibility to educate themselves sufficiently in the topic will mostly be a more accurate representation of the population, than a vote by the populace. As the populace wont have the ability to educate themselves sufficiently on all the topics that are up for voting.

But yeah, demarchy must be combined with possibilities to revoke the decisions of the randomly selected council.


It would be interesting to look at how modern technology have improved the possibilities of direct democracy. Think of how easy it would be to example have a program installed on every cell phone where everyone can easily vote on a couple of decisions each week. Which decicions could for example be decided either by an elected council or by a randomly selected one. I myself am leaning toward a randomly selected one.

MarxSchmarx
25th June 2009, 05:40
Thinking about what structure this "dual power" should take is the most compelling problem facing the left today. Should they be based on existing, imperfect institutions like labor unions? Or should they be created de novo? These are valid questions which must be addressed because, precisely for the reasons JR mention, the evolutionary/revolutionary left dichotomy no longer applies.




It can even be argued that a statistical representative random group (of a big enough size), where all the members have a possibility to educate themselves sufficiently in the topic will mostly be a more accurate representation of the population, than a vote by the populace. As the populace wont have the ability to educate themselves sufficiently on all the topics that are up for voting.

But yeah, demarchy must be combined with possibilities to revoke the decisions of the randomly selected council.


It would be interesting to look at how modern technology have improved the possibilities of direct democracy. Think of how easy it would be to example have a program installed on every cell phone where everyone can easily vote on a couple of decisions each week. Which decicions could for example be decided either by an elected council or by a randomly selected one. I myself am leaning toward a randomly selected one.

Yeah, if people can vote for american idol why can:t they vote for school curricla?

As far as demarchic principle goes, I wonder if modern technology renders it somewhat superflous. For instance, to get the public opinion on an issue, it is possible for everybody to vote in an internet forum. This gives you a census rather than a sample. You allude to this in the post, JR, but I think there is considerable room for it to grow. Moreover, a certain degree of self-selection is not a bad thing. For instance, transporation wonks will want to vote on transportation issues but not on, say, education issues. While this may bias results, carried out among the broader public it is not quite the same as relying on "philosopher kings".


mainly “middle-income” semi-workers form the demographic core of those who rant against “mob rule” (and even use the word “democracy” in their rants) and praise liberal republicanism (as opposed to even radical republicanism), mainly because their ever-atomizing individualism inhibits them from politically interacting with society as a whole.

But what is the sphere of policy that such a political structure should be concerned with? Even among leftist workers, this is a lively debate. For instance, how do we reconcile the goal of worker's self-management with the formation of broad economic policies? It is perfectly a consistent, leftist position to believe that most issues can be handled by the workplaces concerned or by individuals. This is true even of most community issues, like installing a stop sign at an inersection. In this view, any political institution, no matter how democratic, should be clearly circumscribed and limited to what it can administer so as to allow maximum self-initiative. This can come about by an equally working class based consideration as it comes about through petty-bourgeois republicanism.

eyedrop
25th June 2009, 14:34
Interesting. I've heard of demarchy before of course, but I would love to put it to a real-world test - while it sounds promising on paper, the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune care not for theoretical beauty.

I also wonder if there is a possibility for a synthesis between technocracy, which deals primarily with the technical, nuts-and-bolts aspect of a society, and some form of demarchy, which would seem to me to be ideal for dealing with the more social, interpersonal aspects.

I found a small piece that may be of interest.

" Random selection in action

The most widespread use of random selection in social decision-making today is for juries for trials. The jury has several advantages over a judge. One is relative independence from vested interests: juries are less susceptible to the lures of status, money and power. They are not employees of the state, and can make independent judgements. Juries on many occasions have refused to convict people when they consider the law is unjust. Finally, members of juries can test each other's views in a way no judge can.


In recent years there have been quite a few experiments with random selection for other sorts of decision-making. The Jefferson Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, has introduced the ‘policy jury.’ This is a group of typically 12 people, randomly selected from local residents, who make suggestions on difficult policy issues. One policy jury project dealt with the problem of agricultural chemicals entering water supplies. Other projects dealt with organ transplants and with school-based clinics. In each case, the policy juries heard testimony from a range of witnesses and were backed up by ample administrative support. These projects showed that policy jury members took their voluntarily assumed duties extremely seriously, resulting in recommendations that were widely respected.


A similar use of random selection for policy advice has been independently developed and studied in Germany for many years. Numerous ‘planning cells,’ consisting of randomly selected groups of about 25 people, have been formed to spend a week dealing with policy issues in areas such as energy, town planning and information technology. Much of the time of the planning cell members is spent in small groups of about 5 people each, whose membership is rotated to prevent group hierarchies emerging. It is found that participants learn quickly, are sensitive to long-term problems, and focus on the common good. Both the US and German projects have used several groups simultaneously studying the same issue, to broaden participation and obtain more reliable findings.


In Australia, random selection has been used in processes to develop new organisational structures in trade unions. The possibilities are endless, but enormous commitment and effort is required to carry a single project to completion. So far just the surface has been touched."


From this pamphlet (http://www.constitution.org/elec/89demarchy.html)

Hyacinth
25th June 2009, 22:01
But what is the sphere of policy that such a political structure should be concerned with? Even among leftist workers, this is a lively debate. For instance, how do we reconcile the goal of worker's self-management with the formation of broad economic policies? It is perfectly a consistent, leftist position to believe that most issues can be handled by the workplaces concerned or by individuals. This is true even of most community issues, like installing a stop sign at an inersection. In this view, any political institution, no matter how democratic, should be clearly circumscribed and limited to what it can administer so as to allow maximum self-initiative. This can come about by an equally working class based consideration as it comes about through petty-bourgeois republicanism.
This is a good point. Personally, I envision and favour a demarchy as a replacement for bureaucracy, not for direct democracy. Let the demarchic bodies be created ad hoc by people if they feel it necessary to have some sort of administrative and coordinative body, where the power of such bodies would consist solely in making recommendations which people can then, in turn, adopt or reject. The final decision of what policy to implament would still rest in the hands of people, not in those of the committee memebrs.

Die Neue Zeit
27th June 2009, 21:34
Comrades, the demarchy would still be necessary for minor laws (not just regulations) that "the people at large" won't have time to deal with, though.

That's why there should be the reject mechanism as well as the recall mechanism.


I fail to see what you are trying to convey, I miss a conclusion or an evaluation of differing forms of participatory democracy and demarchy. It seems to me you are just wandering around different topics. Well to be fair you did call it musings.

I was writing about the specific features any DOTP in the future should have. This goes hand in hand with your "socialist experiments" paragraph.


Did they change up the entire council at once or change it out a part at a time. I would think changing the council a part at a time would be better as it would ease the transition time as a new council takes place.

For example change out 250 each half year of the total 500.

I didn't think about this, but this is a minor matter. ;)


I can't say that I really see recallability work in bourgeois states to any satisfactory extent, there are dozens of examples were a majority of the population disagree about a decisions, as for example a war (or rather every war I've lived through) were the state still sends troops.

Did I not say that "many bourgeois-capitalist states do not have this at all (and, in exceptional cases, limit it to the point of uselessness)"? Oh, I forgot your later agreement with my combination of demarchy and recall. :D



I originally intended for that third section to be longer, critiquing the various "democratic theory" democratists today who are disillusioned with liberalism, have their various democratic models, but have no class emphasis whatsoever.

Although nobody has yet commented on the "average wage" part, I guess it's because everybody here knows that already...