Consequences.

[Kyrite]

I was wondering what sort of consequences an individual would face for committing a crime in a communist world. For example if someone stabbed someone else during an argument. Also in a communist world what would happen to someone that is mentally damaged to the extent that they commit acts of violence or murder because of their condition, no other reason such as personal gain.

[Kyrite]

If this has already been answered in a different thread please redirect me to it :thumbup:

[JammyDodger]

Well much the same as happens now i guess, except a communist government is there to serve the needs of its people.
So if it requires more prisons and longer sentences to look after its peoples needs well thats what we will get.

For minor things, punishment could be in the form of work in areas that is not popular, or if any major labour intensive projects under way they can help with that ie the chain gang.

Im no expert but I think prisons will be different, re-education and cells, no pandering to the crims.

For the mental criminal it will be a case of prison designed for that type of inmate.

If your asking if capital punishment will be returned, that will be the peoples decision at the time, democratic like.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Labor punishment seems sensible. so long as it is humane. Working on major civic projects or unpopular jobs seems like a good way for the criminal to pay back society for society housing them and for their crime.

Capital punishment should just have a life long alternative. there may be a need some day to have to kill a criminal but thats something im not able to reason for.

for the mentally insane, they should be housed appropriately and again, humanely.

does anyone have crime statistics for the Soviet Union, PRC, DPRK, or Vietnam?

[Faust]

Well..

I don't see any reason why criminal punishment should be different, though when the time comes the people will decide.

I don't agree with the death sentence, but that's not to say others don't, Life sentences and hard manual labour are good enough for me. If you take from, or disrupt society then I believe you should give to society twice as much.

However, keeping prisoners in a cell for their entire lives is a waste of money, labour is the way to go. (I'm speaking about harsh crimes, the minor things would obviously be punished to a lesser extent.

[The Watcher]

"smaller" crimes: Labor and rehabilitation.
By the latter I mean, a psychiatrist or psychologist is assigned to find out the reasons behind the abnormal behavior. If possible, the person will be relocated to a place where he won't be exposed to an environment that induces the abnormal behavior (for example moving from a big city to a small village).
If necessary or requested, in the jail the prisoner can train to be a worker of some other profession.

"bigger" crimes: All the above with extended time, or capital punishment.


Mentally damaged ones (you won't like it): capital punishment, unless the person's family wants and is able to take care of him, and the person is not dangerous to his environment.

[mikelepore]

I believe that greater scientific understanding and less superstition will lead society to realize that there is no such possibility as "this killer is perfect sane, but simply possessed by evil." It will be realized that, if everyone has been educated not to kill, and yet a few people kill anyway, that can only happen if their brains contain some kinds of biological defects. Society will have to go through many of the same law enforcement steps as today, apprehending the suspect, exhibiting evidence to prove guilt, representation by a defender, etc., but the final result should be to seek a way to locate and repair the person's brain defect if possible -- unlike the unscientific tendency in today's system to give up on some people and say that "some people are just no damn good - they are just evil."

[hammer and sickle]

Personally I believe in capital punishment for severe things like for instance Robert Pickton would have gotten the death penalty if it was my decision. I still can't believe the highest sentence you can get for murder is 25 years in Canada! But in the end it really depends on the situation and whats best for the people after all isnt that what Communism is all about?

[mel]

If this has already been answered in a different thread please redirect me to it :thumbup:

This has been talked about here at length, most recently in the "Death Penalty" thread here (http://www.revleft.com/vb/death-penalty-t109716/index.html).

[LOLseph Stalin]

I still can't believe the highest sentence you can get for murder is 25 years in Canada!

Actually it can be more than 25 years. If the parole board doesn't want to let the person out after 25 years they can still stay in prison. Even on parole from a life sentence they're monitored for the rest of their lives.

[Comrade Anarchist]

there shouldn't be prisons they just create criminals. there should be a system to reeducate them into society. if someone is mentally ill it should be known early on so they can receive more attention to control and mental disease to prevent them from committing a crime

[F9]

Actually this indeed has been discussed again.Its basically one of the most common question, but anw..
First of all, NO prisons!Prisons are against the fundamentals of Communism.
People acting in such way(criminal) under such society, would mean only one thing, they are facing some mental issues, violence could be cultivated for a reason in them(unlikely to happen) or generally dont understanding what s/he did is wrong, or even cant stop it!
Of course such cases are to be treated as appropriate, which is getting the definition of what this people are, and the answer is they are sick..And as every other sick people, either its a flu or whatever are to be take the appropriate treatment so they get well.
So they are gonna get the best treatment to help them heal, and most importantly help them rejoin the community asap they are well.
There isnt any "punish" which is what prison is, there is treatment!

Fuserg9:star:

[mel]

Actually this indeed has been discussed again.Its basically one of the most common question, but anw..
First of all, NO prisons!Prisons are against the fundamentals of Communism.
People acting in such way(criminal) under such society, would mean only one thing, they are facing some mental issues, violence could be cultivated for a reason in them(unlikely to happen) or generally dont understanding what s/he did is wrong, or even cant stop it!
Of course such cases are to be treated as appropriate, which is getting the definition of what this people are, and the answer is they are sick..And as every other sick people, either its a flu or whatever are to be take the appropriate treatment so they get well.
So they are gonna get the best treatment to help them heal, and most importantly help them rejoin the community asap they are well.
There isnt any "punish" which is what prison is, there is treatment!

Fuserg9:star:

But obviously the treatment facilities need to be secured, and appropriate for VERY long term care in the case of the most heinous criminals. Some people may never be completely treated, and while we should never give up trying, we should recognize that keeping somebody locked in a secured facility (with the goal being their rehabilitation and release) that some will call this a "correctional facility" AKA a prison.

While they will not resemble a capitalist prison as it will have an entirely different primary function, it can help as a shorthand to say "well, they will go to prison, but the goal will be their treatment and release rather than punishment" instead of saying "well there will be no prisons" and having to deal with the resulting hysterical nonsense before you can continue explaining what you mean.