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GracchusBabeuf
17th June 2009, 23:38
http://mises.org/Community/Themes/mises2008/images/icon_post_show.gif (http://mises.org/Community/forums/p/7362/121247.aspx#121247) Felipe (http://mises.org/Community/members/Wraith/default.aspx) replied on (http://mises.org/Community/forums/p/7362/121234.aspx#121234) Fri, Apr 10 2009 10:17 PM http://mises.org/Community/Themes/mises2008/images/common/5star-rating.png rated by 0 users (http://mises.org/Community/login.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2fCommunity%2fforums%2fp%2f7 362%2f121247.aspx)
I will have each one of them opening a topic in revleft.com about how great libertarianism and capitalism are until the amount of posts bring their server down http://mises.org/Community/emoticons/emotion-2.gif
http://mises.org/Community/forums/p/7362/121247.aspx

The moderator of the website opens a thread (http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/8534.aspx?PageIndex=1)about his thread here.:lol:

We're pretty popular it seems from a google search (http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amises.org+revleft).

GracchusBabeuf
18th June 2009, 00:08
Considering Mises was an apologist for fascism, should they be banned?;)

It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has, for the moment, saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history.http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=1463&chapter=67401&layout=html&Itemid=27

Revy
18th June 2009, 00:52
Some of them actually would send an army of 500,000 to conquer Montana.
Yeah, that's real "libertarian". lol what a joke that forum is.

edit: not just Montana.

Invade a completely hopeless, run down, and destitute country and then proceed to free its economy. Freeing Haiti, for example, could finally bring it around to a modern economy. In fact, freeing Haiti would be enormously beneficial in showing that a black nation can lead the world in economic growth and prosperity as long as it follows free market principles. That and it would be a useful tax haven for Americans and Europeans.

GPDP
18th June 2009, 01:23
I knew it was a coordinated invasion. Why else would so many Miseans register at the same time?

Revy
18th June 2009, 01:33
I knew it was a coordinated invasion. Why else would so many Miseans register at the same time?

Example. (http://www.revleft.com/vb/facade-marxist-class-t111115/index.html)

More Fire for the People
18th June 2009, 02:17
Good luck finding 500,000 libertarians.

RedAnarchist
18th June 2009, 02:20
I don't think we should send anyone over there because that would just be acknowledging them and making them look bigger/more active. I do think, however, that if any of these "misers" are worthy of debating, that we should keep them around in OI.

Bright Banana Beard
18th June 2009, 02:58
With RedAnarchist's point, let just keep the bickering to the minimum.

Il Medico
18th June 2009, 03:33
Example. (http://www.revleft.com/vb/facade-marxist-class-t111115/index.html)
Why isn't this guy restricted?:confused:

GPDP
18th June 2009, 03:44
Why isn't this guy restricted?:confused:

He and his fellow ancaps should be restricted sometime soon. I get the feeling at least one of them is itching for a ban, though.

Prairie Fire
18th June 2009, 06:16
Invade a completely hopeless, run down, and destitute country and then proceed to free its economy. Freeing Haiti, for example, could finally bring it around to a modern economy. In fact, freeing Haiti would be enormously beneficial in showing that a black nation can lead the world in economic growth and prosperity as long as it follows free market principles. That and it would be a useful tax haven for Americans and Europeans.


Libertarianism: Freeing Black people from the biological handicap of their blackness.*

Point of interest: Haiti allready has a "free" economy, in the libertarian sense of the term.

Very clear divide between rich and poor, Sweatshops run by companies like Gildan active wear that are able to act with impunity and without regulation, nothing really resembling social programs (Giving rise to the Haitian regional cuisine of 'eating dirt' during the most recent famine). The infalible free market set the price for imported food (the majority of the supply) into Haiti, increasing the price on vital food stuffs as high as 50%(the price of the vital staple food, imported rice, doubled), causing the 2008 famine that caused food riots around the country (of course order was restored when the evil socialists in the Haitian governement subsidized food prices to help save the population from mass starvation).



Imported rice has become the most important food staple in Haiti.

Decades ago, rice was a luxury in Haiti, grown in the lush Artibonite valley
and eaten on special occasions and Sundays.


After the removal from power of dictator Jean Claude-Duvalier in 1986, a
US-backed military government slashed import taxes, allowing rice and other
cheap imports from the US and the Dominican Republic to flood Haitian
marketplaces.


But plans pushed by Washington to transform Haiti's rural economy into an
industrial force, capitalising on the country's cheap labour to turn the
country into the "Taiwan of the Caribbean" never bore fruit.


Instead, 20 years later, Haiti has little industry besides a handful of
assembly plants where the minimum wage is less than two dollars a day, and
the country's agricultural production is mainly subsistence.


"In 1987, when rice began being imported at a cheap price, many people
applauded," said Preval in a televised speech last Wednesday aimed at
stopping the protests.


"But cheap imported rice destroyed [locally grown] rice. Today, imported
rice has become expensive and our national production is in ruins. That's
why subsidising imported food is not the answer."


But Preval did just that on Saturday, faced with the threat of renewed
protests if he did not take immediate action to reduce prices.


At the same time, Preval promised to relaunch agricultural production by
supporting local farmers.


He said he hoped to cut the price of fertiliser in half with the help of the
Venezuelan government, and announced plans to send an official from the
agricultural ministry to Caracas on Tuesday.


Preval's call for boosting national production may have struck right at the
root of the problem of high food prices, but it may not be enough to calm
tensions in the streets of Haiti.


http://mostlywater.org/inside_haitis_food_riots

In a Libertarian sense, Haiti is already a pristine and shining example of the Free market and unbridled capitalism.

The patronizing white supremists also (as libertarians do,) ignore history and reality in favour of their idealism. Haiti experienced a couple of invasions since it's bloody independence from France, and was occupied by the US from 1915 to 1934 . To this day, it is still occupied by forces of the MINUSTAH occupation.

As per Libertarian dogma, the expansion of American Capital and investment (the infallible will of the immortal God-market,) lead the US to invade and occupy Haiti, maintaining a brutal control of the Island country. Despite the infallibility of the free movement of capital and complete absence of state interference, social programs,or labour regulations of any kind, Haiti hardly "blossomed". Instead, Haiti was kept under-developed as a colony (and later, to present day, as a neo colony), and plundered bare.

Then again, that is all just socialist propaganda with all of it's "rational thinking" and analysis of "material realities" and "historical facts".

Every Libertarian knows that the real reason that Haiti's economy is in the devastated state that it is ( # 146 of 177 countries in the UN's humyn development index), is that their citizens are crippled by their negro-itis*, and need the infallible God-market to illuminate the path to salvation for them.:rolleyes:





* Intended for sarcastic Satire. I do not subscribe to any racialist beliefs, or hold any prejudiced views.

Il Medico
18th June 2009, 06:32
PF, this type of post makes me wish we could give rep in chit-chat. There should be a thread in politics on this.:)