Israel "sets terms" for Palestinian state

[Revy]

link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8099757.stm)

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has announced he will back a Palestinian state - but only if it is completely demilitarised.
He said a Palestinian state must have no army, no control of its air space and no way of smuggling in weapons.
In a landmark speech, weeks after the US president urged him to agree a two-state plan, he said the Palestinians must accept Israel as a Jewish state.
Palestinian leaders reacted angrily, accusing him of sabotaging peace plans.



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In other words, it will still be controlled by Israel :rolleyes: and susceptible to Israeli attack (as it currently is).

[Rusty Shackleford]

Seems just a wee bit one-sided doesnt it? i cant really understand how international leaders actually can see this as a 'step forward in the peace process.' ok well, maybe undying support of israel might be the cause of it. but come on. this may sound naiive but are they really that blind to think that that will make a peaceful society to give all power to one side?

The White House said President Barack Obama welcomed Mr Netanyahu's "endorsement" of a two-state solution as an "important step forward".

[Black Sheep]

So the terrorists will tolerate the terrorized's formal existence,only if they are unarmed.

[Guerrilla22]

This amounts to nothing more than political posturing. The Israeli governemnt decides it will set the terms for a Palestinian state (insisting that the Palestinians go without the means to defend themselves) and when the Palestinians turn it down, Israel will no doubt go on about how the Palestinians are now an obstacle to the two state solution and further obstructing the peace process.

[amandevsingh]

Is this worth a protest over? :confused: I'm new to this

[GPDP]

Is this worth a protest over? :confused: I'm new to this

It's worth a fucking revolution.

[Verix]

wow what a great deal for Palestine! you can have no weapons or army and the country that has commited genocide and discrimnation against you for over 50 years will be in in charge of defending you, plus jewish familys can still move on to your land and take it!

[Glenn Beck]

Funny how this "concession" is really Israel taking absolutely everything it wants. They get a military buffer to their east and a place to ship off all the arabs. What exactly are they offering to give up again besides a few settlements?

[Q]

People like Netanyahu will never allow Palestinian selfdetermination. This was a mere token "gesture" for Obama.

[Yazman]

Well it has still received significant criticism from the US and European Union, especially from the EU. They aren't going to back down and stop the settlements, which the US and the EU are still demanding they stop, and I've seen criticism from Egyptian and EU officials stating that what Israel is proposing couldn't even be defined as a state as it would lack the ability to defend itself (one of the main components required for something to be recognised as a state).


What exactly are they offering to give up again besides a few settlements?

They aren't offering to give up any settlements at all.

[( R )evolution]

Wow complete bullshit.

Another nation 'setting the terms' for the existence of another nation.

".....no army, no control of its air space and no way of smuggling in weapons."

So no means of resistance? No means of fighting Israeli and US oppression. Israel is attempting to make the Palestinian state their complete *****. And what is even more disgusting is that world leaders are applauding this plan. How can anyone believe America and Israel want peace?

[Pogue]

The solution to the Palestine issue lies within the solution to the issue of global capitalism. Revolution, essentially.

[( R )evolution]

^ Completely true because the existence of Israeli is rooted in the need of the West to have an ally, more like a base, in the middle east. Hence why America has supported Israel in absolutely everything from massacres of thousands of people to carpet bombing entire city blocks.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Terms are a little fucken ridiculous methinks. Seems Netanyahu just wants to reclaim this land after the Palestinian state has been established.

[progressive_lefty]

Basically in blunt terms, the Zionists know that their state isn't legitimate on 2009 borders, let alone 1967 borders or 1948 borders. They never ever want to concede to the 'Arabs', because they know that there is never legitimacy for a state based on colonisation and racism. The interesting thing, is that they have maintained such blind support from the world, ever since they received independence. Israel could have become legitimate, if excepted its history and the millions of people that live right next to them in Gaza and West Bank.
I'm going to be ultra-pessimistic here and say, there is no chance in hell for peace, given the political make-up of the Knesset. I think Obama will go for peace, but will end up failing, and blaming it on the Palestinians, like Clinton did. You can already see the media criticising Hamas and Fatah for rejecting Netanyahu's pathetic "terms" for a Palestinian state.

[GX.]

Just like Obama's "new" dialog with Muslims there is nothing new here. If this is supposed to serve as the starting point for negotiations, as some have suggested, they'll fall through in an instant. I doubt even the PA is cowed enough to accept these terms.

[Revy]

Hadash Chairman and Member of the Knesset Mohammad Barakeh said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech in Bar-Ilan University indicated that he was "once again choosing the peace of the settlements, which collides head-on with the peace of the region and all of its nations".



"Netanyahu spoke like a chameleon about a Palestinian state, with conditions and dimensions no Palestinian would ever hear of," stated Bakakeh, a leading member of the Communist Party of Israel.

[BIG BROTHER]

Its more than obvious that when Israel says they want peace with Palestine they mean they want to summit Palestine.

[Dr Mindbender]

The terms should be the other way round, if anything.