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trivas7
11th June 2009, 03:48
One of Stefan Molyneaux's theses (http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/stefan-molyneaux/11262066/) is that parenting style determines government style and that a society is a projection of the aggregate family history of its members. E.g. in Britain the eldest son inherited the estate and was generally held above his siblings, whereas in Russia parenting was more egalitarian between siblings (the children were treated equally horribly) and of course these child-rearing modes manifested themselves in different ideologies. In Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan where the medieval practice of swaddling made its population sensitive to encirclement in the politic sense created a visceral desire to create living space. The development of societies correlate quite closely w/ child-rearing strategies.

RGacky3
11th June 2009, 11:58
Some people have a lot of time to waste on finding unrelated connections to rediculous things and comming up with rediculous theories that are a waste of time.

If you wanted to you could probably find connections between heathcare systems and percentage of hats used.

Dimentio
11th June 2009, 12:25
Actually, I think there are some points in that.

Bud Struggle
11th June 2009, 13:26
Well, yea, I have no argument that better parenting styles lead to better people, but it's a bit of a streach to think that they will lead to anarchism. Families are not anarchistic even in the "best" circumstances. Parents are dictators--benevolent or not, and that example sets the tone for children's understanding of the world.

Also, finding cause with "Christian Anarchists" as a way to achieve an Anatchist world is pretty far fectched. Are there any of those people around in any numbers? In my youth I was associated with that Catholic Worker movement in the East Village--and there might have been some Christian Anarchists there, but they were a fringe of a fringe. I could be wrong about this, though.

trivas7
11th June 2009, 16:45
Also, finding cause with "Christian Anarchists" as a way to achieve an Anatchist world is pretty far fectched. Are there any of those people around in any numbers? In my youth I was associated with that Catholic Worker movement in the East Village--and there might have been some Christian Anarchists there, but they were a fringe of a fringe. I could be wrong about this, though.
I believe I take your point (I loved Dorothy Day, too). The point that this blogger is making is that anarchism is found everywhere today & that it will only grow stronger as people continue to disidentify w/ their respective governments and see them as the sham they are.

Bud Struggle
11th June 2009, 21:42
I believe I take your point (I loved Dorothy Day, too). The point that this blogger is making is that anarchism is found everywhere today & that it will only grow stronger as people continue to disidentify w/ their respective governments and see them as the sham they are.

I honestly don't see it. But I would be happy if it were true.

Rusty Shackleford
13th June 2009, 04:50
I can kind of see how that has an effect. "Like father, like son" comes to mind. but its not a complete replication of the way they were raised. but it can have an effect.

Governments can reflect parenting from 1-2 generations back, but its not exact, and this is not certain at all. I guess when a politician is born, it depends on what family they are born into, if they are lower class they will reflect the value or their class whereas if they were upper class they will reflect the interests of that class.
theres always a chance for a glitch.

Jazzratt
13th June 2009, 15:40
If you hear a crashing sound that's the horse colliding with the cart someone has inconciderately put in the way. It should be obvious to most people that the way a parent is ruled by society is more likely to govern how they "rule" their kids than vice-versa. Naturally some parents would rather parent in the style of a world order they wish to see and this might affect how a child develops politically but no more than many other parental factors. Generally society is going to have a bigger effect on individuals.

#FF0000
13th June 2009, 18:46
Sounds like some really, really simple reasoning with no solid fact or evidence to back it up. Who's to say that government style doesn't reflect on parenting style?

trivas7
13th June 2009, 20:21
Sounds like some really, really simple reasoning with no solid fact or evidence to back it up. Who's to say that government style doesn't reflect on parenting style?
Well, b/c I've a really, really simple brain I believe in really, really simple reasoning. As a communist you believe that social being establishes the ideological superstructure, don't you? Therefore it makes sense. There have been been developmental studies re this, I believe.