Apparently food is dangerous...

[NecroCommie]

My old friend from high school reminded me the other day about a certain guest that was preaching in our school, and I wanted to see what you folks think.

She was some sort of "health therapeutist" who held a lecture about healthy life. The bad thing was that I recall her scaring about every food except the fucking green salad. Seriously, she told how even fruits contain too much energy when compared to our daily needs. She strongly suggested we avoid all wheat products, and how all meat products are plain dangerous for our health.

On every point she was sure to show us some bullshit statistics about human energy and vitamin consumption, and how we are about to fucking die if we didn't start to be vegetarian now. As if I would eat a tree full of apples a day anyway... :rolleyes:

I then proceeded to point out how humanity has fared over 10.000 years without significant health instructions, and asked whether thinking about meat can damage my karma... Her response was way less furious than it should have been. Come to think of it, she might have actually taken my question seriously.

Obviously some kind of care for oneself is needed, and if she were an intelligent person she might have pointed out how we humans lived considerably shorter lives 10.000 years ago. The question is: where to draw the line?

[RedAnarchist]

Sure she doesn't have shaers in some vegetable company?

Seriously though, people like her should not be going around spreading this misinformation.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

She was some sort of "health therapeutist" who held a lecture about healthy life. The bad thing was that I recall her scaring about every food except the fucking green salad. Seriously, she told how even fruits contain too much energy when compared to our daily needs.

Did she mention anything about activity levels and environment? If you're sitting on your ass in a warm room in front of a computer all day then you're not going to need to eat as much as someone who's doing physical activity all day outside in below zero temperatures.


She strongly suggested we avoid all wheat products, and how all meat products are plain dangerous for our health.What's wrong with wheat? It's a good source of carbohydrates. Some people are allergic to gluten but that's no reason to avoid wheat if you're not, no more than the fact that some people are allergic to nuts is a reason to avoid eating them.

As for meat being dangerous to one's health, that is total nonsense. Humans are capable of living off a diet of mainly meat, like they used to around the Arctic Circle.


On every point she was sure to show us some bullshit statistics about human energy and vitamin consumption, and how we are about to fucking die if we didn't start to be vegetarian now. As if I would eat a tree full of apples a day anyway... :rolleyes:We're all going to die anyway. All those health and fitness freaks are simply going to spend more time in a nursing home dribbling food down their bib.


I then proceeded to point out how humanity has fared over 10.000 years without significant health instructions, and asked whether thinking about meat can damage my karma... Her response was way less furious than it should have been. Come to think of it, she might have actually taken my question seriously.

Obviously some kind of care for oneself is needed, and if she were an intelligent person she might have pointed out how we humans lived considerably shorter lives 10.000 years ago. The question is: where to draw the line?Obviously sound nutritional advice should be available on demand, but if someone wants to spend their days shoving cake and beefburgers into their faces, I'm not going to stop them.

[Decolonize The Left]

We're all going to die anyway. All those health and fitness freaks are simply going to spend more time in a nursing home dribbling food down their bib.

You will be receiving rep for this comment - gold.

- August

[Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor]

Each person needs to determine what the appropriate ratio between eating healthy and eating unhealthy is. Ultimately, we are all very terrible at doing this. If we all forced ourselves to eat healthy, the food industry would probably create health food that actually tastes half decent.

As for the vegetable supremacy, it's probably true. You'd just have to eat so much vegetables to get your nutrients it would be rather inconvenient. Here is my motto, which I don't always follow:

1. Above all, be happy.
2. Try not to be a fatass.
3. Be able to run from the police.
4. Be able to have sex without getting tired.
5. Have regular checkups to see if there are problems.

Hurray.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Each person needs to determine what the appropriate ratio between eating healthy and eating unhealthy is. Ultimately, we are all very terrible at doing this. If we all forced ourselves to eat healthy, the food industry would probably create health food that actually tastes half decent.

Evolution has yet to catch up with the fact that sugar, salt and fat aren't as rare for a lot of people as they used to be.


As for the vegetable supremacy, it's probably true. You'd just have to eat so much vegetables to get your nutrients it would be rather inconvenient.

Try expensive. It's much cheaper for me to get my carbs from rice and pasta. I can get my protein from beans if I can't afford meat. My last meal was a plate of ham and vegetable curry with rice, which is fairly typical. Cheap and tasty.

[NecroCommie]

I too noticed the fallacies that Noxion pointed out. She based the danger of wheat with exactly your point. It provides way too much carbon hydrates, and we all get fat. She had a problem with meat because apparently humans are not "designed" to eat meat, whatever that means.

No offense to vegetarians, just that this particular case could not give any intelligent answers to me.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I too noticed the fallacies that Noxion pointed out. She based the danger of wheat with exactly your point. It provides way too much carbon hydrates, and we all get fat.

She really shouldn't generalise, and I think that her generalisation indicates she hasn't got a clue what she's talking about.

For example, no, not all of us get fat. I don't get fat, and I eat plenty of wheat-based carbohydrates and live a pretty sedentary lifestyle. I could probably do well to eat more fruits and vegetables.


She had a problem with meat because apparently humans are not "designed" to eat meat, whatever that means.That's complete and utter tot, based on nothing but pure misinformation. Humans are omnivores, this is indisputable by anyone with any sense.

[Technocrat]

3 times per week I do the following:

80 pushups
100 crunches
4x10 pullups
50 squats

I do not watch what I eat AT ALL, and have not gotten any fatter over the past 3 years despite the fact that I enjoy consuming mass quantities of food and sometimes alcohol. IMO diets and dietary advice are all a bunch of crap. Sure, you need enough carbs to have sufficient glycogen reserves to do work. You need proteins to build and retain muscle mass, and you need fat as reserve energy and to do low-intensity work. You need vitamins and minerals for various functions which are too numerous to list. Most of all though, the key to good health is to simply GET OFF YOUR ASS AND DO SOME WORK. All of this focus on food is somewhat neurotic. To me, dieters are just one step away from anorexics or bulemics, psychologically speaking.

[TheFutureOfThePublic]

Well if food is dangerous then i suggest moving to Africa....joke

[Dust Bunnies]

Meat is what humans ate at first, so I guess our ancestors all died instantly from not being vegetarians? :rolleyes:

Diets and such to me are bullshit, my rules are:

1. Don't eat too much
2. 1 Dessert per day, 2 are allowed sometimes though
3. Exercise is essential, if you do not exercise you do not lose or maintain weight (usually, unless you naturally have a high metabolism)
4. Any food type goes, just try not to eat too fatty (example of this was my mom bought a bunch of packaged mini pies for 50 cents, they were good but I didn't eat them because they had so much saturated fat)