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BOZG
31st January 2003, 07:35
Just got this in my e-mail.


The Black Panther Party has launched a record label, Black Panther
Records, which focuses on releasing more socially conscious rap. The first
release is from group F.U.G.I.T.I.V.E.S, who recently dropped their LP,
"All Of Us." The Black Panther Party was founded by Huey Newton and Bobby
Seale in the 60's. Seale continues to lead the party today.

truthaddict11
31st January 2003, 10:57
sounds cool i'll check it out

Lardlad95
31st January 2003, 15:53
Fuckin Finallly

Umoja
31st January 2003, 22:02
To my knowledge, the Black Panther Party is now the Huey P. Newton Foundation. It would seem something like this would actually be done by the New Black Panther Party, especially because of the strong urban black guy appeal of it.

Hampton
1st February 2003, 03:37
First, There Is No New Black Panther Party (http://www.blackpanther.org/newsalert.htm)

Second, one of the faux Panthers leader, Malik Zulu Shabazz, is just a racist, which the real black Panther Party was never about. Here is an example of Malik's anti-Semitic beliefs:

In February 1994, as founder and leader of Unity Nation-a student group for supporters of the Nation of Islam-Shabazz organized a rally featuring Khalid Muhammad. As a warm-up for Muhammad's appearance, Shabazz led the audience in this anti-Semitic call-and-response:

Shabazz:Who is it that caught and killed Nat Turner?
Audience:Jews!
Shabazz:Who is that controls the Federal Reserve?
Audience:Jews! (faintly)
Shabazz:What? You're not scared, are you?
Audience:Jews! Jews!
Shabazz:Who is it that controls the media and Hollywood?
Audience: Jews! Jews!
Shabazz:Who is it that has our entertainers…and our athletes in a vise grip?
Audience:Jews!
Shabazz:Who is spying on Black leaders and Martin Luther King and set up his death?
Audience:Jews!

http://www.adl.org/opinion/malik_shabazz.asp

Lardlad95
1st February 2003, 04:31
I don't think anyone liked Shabazz anyway.

The man is about a good black leader as uncle tom.

Who we need as a black leader is a man who understands the plight, is a powerful speaker, and an intellegent man

and looking around the best the community has is Powell, Jackson, and Sharpton

things aren't looking up for the black community

Umoja
1st February 2003, 05:23
Their is a New Black Panther Party though, and they do have much more momentum then people give them. They do stuff in Newark quite a bit, and are responsible for much mroe community activism then people give them credit for, yes they are more race obsessed and not socialist (since that's a white concept), but they've done more for the community then the Black Radical Congress or Internation Democratic Peoples Uhuru Movement.

Alejandro C
1st February 2003, 09:47
There is no new black panther party!!
There is a group of people who call themselves this, but as previously stated they are a group of racist that more closely resembles the black muslim movement than any thing the panthers would go for. Now normally i would say something remininscent of Malcolm like, i'm down for anyone who is earnestly trying to further the movement, but in this case i can't stop shaking my head. I know that both the Huey Newton Foundation and Bobby Seale have stated very admantly against the so called new black panther pary. I know that this new party does not hold the same principles dear and true as the real Panthers did. With this in mind it seems to me that they are stealing the name and respect that goes along with the name of the BPP without even being true to the name they are stealing! All of that aside, i will check out this music anyway because i have a powerful hunger for the type of music these so-called panthers claim they have made.

Umoja
1st February 2003, 19:47
Actually, the part isn't Muslim fundementalist. They just accept religion, since they claim Africans are spritual people, they are not condoning a specific religion though. Most of the guys on Deadprez.net, know more about them then I do though.

ovrproofmentalz
1st February 2003, 20:14
Quote: from Lardlad95 on 4:31 am on Feb. 1, 2003

Who we need as a black leader is a man who understands the plight, is a powerful speaker, and an intellegent man

and looking around the best the community has is Powell, Jackson, and Sharpton


Colin Powell??? serious? can you please explain why he'd represent Black interests?

peace

tommyt1alacrana
2nd February 2003, 06:16
i recently bought a cd single called "The Points" Panther.

did i like it? yes and no. the songs are about Black coming up and Black being the main. i understand the plight yet is it necessary in this day and age?

its time to start thinking differently. learning to be "constantly renewed in the transformations of our minds" - Jesus on the Revolution.

Black Panthers are a militia. They arm themselves with weapons and the law against anyone who opposes the national interests and security of the people.

If we truly want revolution we must change our thinking, re-organize and then organize. Work together. Be brave, self-governed, and not afraid to do what doesn't feel natural.

Getting to point A is the hard part. The rest is just work. Are we like the religious? Do I have to point it out to you? Do you really believe "communism" is for the non-religious? Think again. Why do they hate America? Is it because we had a communist leader?

Umoja
2nd February 2003, 13:58
Well, actually especially with most Communist, religion is frowned upon strongly. I remember Assata Shakur wrote about a Puerto Rican Catholic, that was against Communism and Socialism as a solution for her people because it seperated them from Catholithism. Assata believed otherwise, but I'm sure you understand my point.

tommyt1alacrana
2nd February 2003, 15:38
Quote: from Umoja on 1:58 pm on Feb. 2, 2003
Well, actually especially with most Communist, religion is frowned upon strongly.

i dont understand why we only go back so far to seek answers. communism is used as a buffer. where did marx get his teachings? who influenced him? who was responsible for the "industrial" revolution to come about? wasn't marx into "industrial" only instead it worked in the u.s. and not where marx was? why? the industrial revolution may have totally wiped out "agrarian reform" which counteracts the communist movement.

Lardlad95
3rd February 2003, 12:09
Quote: from ovrproofmentalz on 8:14 pm on Feb. 1, 2003

Quote: from Lardlad95 on 4:31 am on Feb. 1, 2003

Who we need as a black leader is a man who understands the plight, is a powerful speaker, and an intellegent man

and looking around the best the community has is Powell, Jackson, and Sharpton


Colin Powell??? serious? can you please explain why he'd represent Black interests?

peace


you have to keep reading


and looking around the best the community has is Powell, Jackson, and Sharpton

things aren't looking up for the black community

I didn't mean that Colin Powell being one of the candidates for the black community is a good thing.

Obviously since I said things aren't looking good for black people i don't like the guy

Hampton
3rd February 2003, 16:54
Where's Huey P. when you need him.

Umoja
3rd February 2003, 19:26
I'd think Omali Yeshetella would have much more fame then he actually has.....

BOZG
3rd February 2003, 19:44
Umoja, do you have any links to speechs by Omali because I cannot find any. I've heard some of his stuff on Let's Get Free and it sounds good.

Rastafari
3rd February 2003, 20:02
Huey P. of Boondocks?
Cool, man

Hampton
3rd February 2003, 21:51
http://www.shsu.edu/~org_pbs/hueypnewton.gif

Rastafari
3rd February 2003, 22:26
Oh, seen

Umoja
4th February 2003, 00:44
This site has the first speak, I ever heard by Omali Yeshetella. It's at a Rally in 2000.

http://www.daundaground.com/programs_uhuru.html

Rastafari
4th February 2003, 01:12
I sit and watched all of this. Very good points he made, man

Alejandro C
11th February 2003, 22:44
I go the feeling from watching that speech that that man is very much like a young malcolm. He is very energetic and powerfull, but also a little ignorant. He comes across as confused about his racism, especially regarding his piece about vietnam. He contradicted himself severly. his condemnation of the anti-war movement of the sixties stems from the fact that its leaders were whites. In fact, these same leaders were refered to by Bobby and Huey as the 'white panthers' someone they could trust and have faith with. He condemned the anti-war movement, at the same time condemning US imperialism into that reason. It simply makes no sense. I understand where he is coming from. The white man unrightfully going to war against asians is wrong. The white man saying that peace, even though it is against that war, is wrong. His stand point is a racist one. This i can understand. Usually, though, intelligent people would always come to this dillema while faced with rascism. Both the war and anti-war movements are led by whites. Someone has to be right. A white person was acting the right way for the betterment of all people. This man though, fails to use his intelligence to see that. Instead he seems so caught up in racism that he ignorantly and stupidly denounces both sides of the issue. I could never fully support such a man or any movement which he heads. However i would be willing to support him and anyone else who is genuinely interested in furthering the oppressed CLASS. I just hope that he will grow up like Malcolm did to recognize the truth. The race struggle is part of the class struggle.

Alejandro C
11th February 2003, 22:46
Also do you have a link to that whole rally, i would really love to hear M1 speak. or could you just tell me about what he said.

Umoja
11th February 2003, 23:25
http://www.daundaground.com/programs_politickin2.html

Has M1 talking at the Rally, but the interviewer doesn't really know what he's saying.