Why does Rosa Luxemburg reject the "Dictatorship of the proletariat" thesis?

[TrueLeninist]

Hello all: I would like to know, why do Rosa Luxemburg critisize so much the Bolshevik-state, and the thesis of the temporary proletarian-dictatorship. I was reading in the Marxists Website an article where she said that there were some dictatorial excess in the Bolshevik-government. So i just would like to know if the Bolshevik-state was a dictatorship of the proletariat and is the workers-dictatorship a necessary temporary stage that all countries must go thru? And is Venezuela heading toward a dictatorship of the proletariat?

Thanks


TrueLeninist

[SocialismOrBarbarism]

Hello all: I would like to know, why do Rosa Luxemburg critisize so much the Bolshevik-state, and the thesis of the temporary proletarian-dictatorship. I was reading in the Marxists Website an article where she said that there were some dictatorial excess in the Bolshevik-government. So i just would like to know if the Bolshevik-state was a dictatorship of the proletariat and is the workers-dictatorship a necessary temporary stage that all countries must go thru? And is Venezuela heading toward a dictatorship of the proletariat?

Thanks


TrueLeninist

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[ZeroNowhere]

No revolutionary rejects the dictatorship of the proletariat, except perhaps those who advocate a dictatorship over the proletariat, of which there are fairly few. If anything, she criticized the bolshie state for not being a dictatorship of the proletariat.


And is Venezuela heading toward a dictatorship of the proletariat?No more than the US is heading towards a dictatorship of the proletariat.

[TrueLeninist]

hmm, but i thought that Venezuela is on a true path toward socialism. Remember that socialism in one country doesn't work. Dont you think that maybe Hugo Chavez and the United Socialist Party of Venezuela intellectuals are waiting for socialism to spread around this world so that socialism can take on full throttle in Venezuela? Because we are still on a globalized-capitalist world with capitalist trade between nations. So it's real hard to install a full socialist system in a world where all other countries are capitalists

TrueLeninist



No revolutionary rejects the dictatorship of the proletariat, except perhaps those who advocate a dictatorship over the proletariat, of which there are fairly few. If anything, she criticized the bolshie state for not being a dictatorship of the proletariat.

No more than the US is heading towards a dictatorship of the proletariat.

[Agrippa]

Dont you think that maybe Hugo Chavez and the United Socialist Party of Venezuela intellectuals are waiting for socialism to spread around this world so that socialism can take on full throttle in Venezuela?

What do the workers of Venezuela, or the workers of any other part of the world, have to gain from thinking that?


Because we are still on a globalized-capitalist world with capitalist trade between nations.

Such as the capitalist trade of weapons of mass-murder between Venezuela on the one hand and the P.R.C. and the Russian Federation on the other? Or, more like the capitalist trade of mining rights to rainforests on wildlife sanctuaries and Indian reservations between Venezeula on the one hand and multinational coal companies on the other?


So it's real hard to install a full socialist system in a world where all other countries are capitalists

On the contrary it's rather easy because capitalism is most vibrant and stable when it adapts the "socialism" of the Lenin/FDR/Hugo Chavez variety....