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Invincible Summer
4th June 2009, 21:00
In the local paper, an article quotes a New Democratic Party MP, Pat Martin, on the GM Bailout - "We are all socialists now. The fact is that we now have Marxism realized. We own the means of production and we did not have to fire a single shot. It is realyl quite phenomenal what went on today."


Goes to show how out of touch the so-called "socialist" parties are with their roots.

KurtFF8
4th June 2009, 21:56
That's quite pathetic if this quote is true, can you provide a source?

Salyut
5th June 2009, 03:57
I thought the NDP didn't tolerate socialism let alone statements like this. :confused:

jake williams
5th June 2009, 06:06
Haha. Oh, what a party.

Is it possible he was being ironic?

Invincible Summer
5th June 2009, 09:44
Link here: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/bureau-blog/we-didnt-fire-a-single-shot/article1164163/

This is different from the article I read in that the one I read didn't say he "joked." Given the NDP's history and left-liberal stance, I don't know if "joked" means he is not serious, or that he finds it amusing.

Holden Caulfield
5th June 2009, 09:48
I thought the NDP didn't tolerate socialism let alone statements like this. :confused:

The Canadian NDP are social democrats, the German NDP are far-right nationalists.

jake williams
5th June 2009, 10:06
The Canadian NDP are social democrats, the German NDP are far-right nationalists.
And then there's the Egyptian NDP (National Democratic Party/الحزب الوطنى الديمقراطى), the ruling party in Egypt.

Die Neue Zeit
5th June 2009, 13:52
Can we get down to the business of establishing a workers-only Canadian political party? :(

RedSonRising
6th June 2009, 10:24
People like this need to be quiet. I feel like mailing political dictionaries to such deluded fucks, the word needs to stop taking such inaccurate abuse by misuse.

Ismail
6th June 2009, 12:10
People like this need to be quiet. I feel like mailing political dictionaries to such deluded fucks, the word needs to stop taking such inaccurate abuse by misuse.I'm pretty sure the bourgeoisie are going to want to continue to misuse the word for as long as possible.

The Canadian NDP are just social-democrats. With the exception of a few entryist Trotskyists, the entire Communist (and Anarchist!) movement is in agreement. When they say the word "socialism" they mean it in their totally reformist and not the least bit revolutionary way.

Lynx
6th June 2009, 13:09
The NDP are poised to capture power in Nova Scotia. They have been portrayed as a pro-union party. A scare tactic that failed, according to the polls.