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29th May 2009, 19:37

A while back someone posted the North-Korea version of the same series and this is worthwile too:

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlbWM1c9DUc

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dT_FuFoRKA&feature=related

Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZWpWtFZVEo&feature=related

Part 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkvCOhin6s8&feature=related

Part 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsH8Y1iD9PI&feature=related

Dr Mindbender

29th May 2009, 19:50

lmao ''I respect stop lights, i'm not an anarchist'' :laugh:

Communist Theory

29th May 2009, 20:00

Yay, I must remember to watch this when I get home.

Red Saxon

29th May 2009, 20:34

I guess Venezuela is on my list of countries to visit with ties to Socialism/Communism.

:D

lmao ''I respect stop lights, i'm not an anarchist'' :laugh:I laughed at that, too. :laugh:

29th May 2009, 21:03

It's a good documentary I think. It shows the problems of Venezuelan society in a pretty fair way: open air schools, high levels of crime, large shanty towns, land redistribution to people that never farmed before...

Venezuela is after 10 years of Chavez reforms still far from a socialist paradise and now that the world oil price has fallen like a brick, even the modest reforms thusfar are under immediate threat.

cyu

30th May 2009, 19:06

land redistribution to people that never farmed before

Well, anybody new to any job gets training from those who are currently already doing it - theoretically it shouldn't be so much different from the way it's always been - of course, if the new employees are in competition with the old ones, then there isn't too much incentitive to make sure the new ones succeed... one of many reasons why a competitive economy isn't as efficient as a cooperative one.

JimmyJazz

30th May 2009, 19:13

After the North Korea one I'm not wasting my time watching anything with that doucebag host in it again, sorry.

30th May 2009, 20:26

After the North Korea one I'm not wasting my time watching anything with that doucebag host in it again, sorry.
What was bad about it? I thought it stood qualitatively on a very high level.

JimmyJazz

30th May 2009, 22:02

What was bad about it? I thought it stood qualitatively on a very high level.

Are you serious? He made fun of the country and the people the entire time. Not the kind of witty observations that a liberal or a politically apathetic person might make, but the kind with an underlying real bitterness that only a right-winger could provide--you could tell he was actually more annoyed by the aspects of NK that work than by the aspects that don't. Like, if Anthony Bourdain had toured NK and poked fun at the personality cult, I would be OK with that, but this guy is just an idiot.

el_chavista

2nd June 2009, 19:10

I can't see the videos. A warn message is displayed: This video has been suppressed due to an infraction in the terms of use.

2nd June 2009, 20:06

I can't see the videos. A warn message is displayed: This video has been suppressed due to an infraction in the terms of use.
Ah yes, they seem to have been removed due to a copyright breach or something lame like that.

A shame.

Wanted Man

2nd June 2009, 22:21

First of all, I must say that I can't watch this, because of Youtube's brilliant ideas on copyright. So if any of my assumptions are wrong, I'll gladly accept that fact.

Anyway, just the title makes me cringe, to be honest. I never get this western journalists' obsession with "revealing hidden places", most of which can actually be visited by any tourist. Maybe it's some sort of desire for "exotic locales" as a counterbalance to the demystification of the globalised world. The reality is that you can visit "exciting" destinations like Myanmar, North Korea, etc. and come back unmolested. Nothing hardcore about that.

There is nothing "special" about visiting North Korea or Venezuela, except to the starry-eyed liberals who have the arrogance to think that the world needs to give a shit about the fact that they can afford a ticket to countries that are being isolated by the imperialists. Up until recently, it was perfectly possible to take the train to North Korea yourself (http://vienna-pyongyang.blogspot.com/) as long as you had the insight to figure out the scary exotic oriental words on your ticket.

I'm sorry if this little rant doesn't do enough justice to this film, as I said, I can't see it. But I had to get it off my chest. No offense to people who get excited by this stuff, I get excited by silly things too.