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Holden Caulfield
29th May 2009, 12:10
...when the ****s blatently make shit up simply to stir up community tensions:



The most senior elected member of the British National party could face suspension from the London (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/london) assembly for up to six months after he admitted inventing three murders to highlight knife crime (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/knifecrime), it emerged today.

A joint investigation by the Greater London authority and Barking and Dagenham council has concluded that Richard Barnbrook brought his office and the respective authorities into disrepute after falsely claiming in an interview that three murders had taken place over a three week period in the Barking and Dagenham area.

Barnbrook was elected to the London assembly last year and is also a councillor in Barking and Dagenham.

The findings relating to the BNP's highest profile member in elected office will be a blow to the party just a day after it used its European and local government (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/localgovernment) election launch to attempt to present itself to the electorate as a credible alternative to mainstream parties following the debacle over MPs' expenses.

The complaint against Barnbrook was first lodged last September after he claimed in an interview posted on YouTube and his own website that a girl had been murdered within the borough within the past three weeks. "We don't know who's done it. Her girlfriend was attacked inside an educational institute," Barnbrook said in the prerecorded interview in which he sought to highlight failings in tackling knife crime.

He also said that two weeks previously "there was another attack by knives on the streets of Barking and Dagenham where two people were murdered".

Valerie Rush, a Labour cabinet member at the local authority, accused Barnbrook of "openly and outrageously" lying to "whip up fears in the London community".

In her complaint to the GLA and the council, Rush said Barnbrook had acted in a way which brought his honesty and integrity as a councillor into disrepute.

Barnbrook, who is one of twelve BNP councillors in Barking and Dagenham, said that he knew at the time that he made the statements that "there had been no fatalities in Barking and Dagenham", according to a report documenting the investigation into the complaint (http://www.london.gov.uk/assembly/stndsmtgs/2009/subapr29/item06b.pdf) (pdf).

Barnbrook nevertheless refused to apologise for the statements "until knife crime is over".

This meant that the interview – filmed by Simon Darby, the BNP's deputy leader, who works part-time for Barnbrook in the London assembly – was posted on the internet despite Barnbrook knowing the statements were incorrect, the report noted.

The Metropolitan police confirmed that there had been no murders or incidents resulting in critical injuries requiring intensive care in the time period cited, and that murders in the area were actually decreasing.

By the time the draft investigation report was published, Barnbrook had changed his position and claimed that he did not accept that "the inaccuracy of my statement was deliberate". He also stated: "I did not know that the data in the recording was incorrect. I would not have posted the recording if I had known that it was incorrect."

Barnbrook also insisted that "once I realised that the data was incorrect, the recording was removed from the internet on my instruction within 24 hours".

The investigation ruled that Barnbrook's original claim that he knew what he was saying was untrue "seems at odds" with the principles of honesty and integrity. "If the public were aware that Mr Barnbrook was in fact putting out statements that he knew were false, we consider that his could reasonably be regarded as undermining public confidence in both members and the authorities as a whole in being able to fulfil their function."

Barnbrook now faces a full hearing after the respective committees at the GLA and the London borough considered the investigation's report two weeks ago.

The report's findings prepare the way for one of a range of sanctions, including suspension from office for up to six months.



From the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/12/bnp-barnbrook-murders) (a while ago, but i forgot to post it when it came out)

ls
29th May 2009, 13:32
This kind of thing yeah. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2006/apr/05/localgovernment.farright < that kind of thing is even worse. Also racist attacks seem to emerge from areas where they do stand, people feel more confident to come out and attack people (although in areas where that can be likely, you don't get things so much no more like skinheads intimidating people at the ballots themselves).

In my opinion these facts alone completely justify no-platform policies against them.

Holden Caulfield
29th May 2009, 13:45
although in areas where that can be likely, you don't get things so much no more like skinheads intimidating people at the ballots themselves

No but, and this is fact you can chose to trust my word or not, thugs (sent by or on the behest of, and clearly in contact with, the BNP) have intimidated and pushed about local anti-racist leafletters on several occasions up here, they have attacked the cars and homes of local anti-fascist organisers, and around last years RWB locals who protested about the festival reported to us a landrover with 5 'skinheads' parked outside their house for a period of time, obviously intended to intimidate. There are countless other examples.

The BNP can use the rest of the political detritus on the far right to do their dirty work for them when necessary. Which also proves why fringe nutzis are also legitimate targets in militant antifascism

ls
29th May 2009, 14:05
Yeah it's true, putting out that list of UAF people is a good indicator of their attempts at intimidation (let's imagine what they try to do to a real anti-fascist organisation..).

Also 'fringe nutzis' can do randomly crazy things even if they aren't actually unofficially asked to do the BNP's dirty work in their name. That sick John Laidlaw guy shooting at random people at random then affiliating himself with the BNP is a good indication of this (I doubt the BNP would be stupid enough to ask someone to shoot random non-white people).

Basically all these racist nutcases are affiliated and in some way working against us and should not be completely ignored or 'dismissed'.

brigadista
29th May 2009, 14:12
from the Morning Star 18th May 2009 [apologies if you have seen it already]

If the BNP does make headway at next month's Euro elections, it'll be the result of a giant con trick.

That is, persuading voters that it's a genuine alternative to the greedy, sleazy, elitist mainstream parties, rather than a bunch of thugs, fascists and liars who make the worst of the Westminster shower look like angels.
London BNP Councillor Richard Barnbrook's admission that he lied about murders in his borough is not an isolated bit of bad behaviour.
It's simply the latest in a long line of incidents which proves that the BNP and its election candidates are rotten to the core.
The party has been making great play of the row over MPs' expenses. But its own members have their snouts deep in the public trough.
More than half of its councillors in Barnbrook's borough of Barking and Dagenham have been caught claiming their full £10,000-a-year expenses allowance - even though they hardly ever bother to turn up.
And a BNP member in Tipton, West Midlands, was kicked off the council after failing to show up at all for six months. So much for the party's efforts to look squeaky clean compared to Westminster.
Back in 2006, three councillors in the same borough were taken to court for owing thousands of pounds in council tax and rent.
In West Yorkshire, Richard Mulhall, the BNP group leader on Calderdale Council, was found guilty the same year of falsely claiming over £3,000 in housing benefit. So much for the party's rhetoric about immigrants spongeing off the rest of us.
And just last month, the BNP Yorkshire and Humber candidate for the Euro elections was unmasked as a former leader of the neonazi National Front. So much for the party's claim to have cut its ties with the skinheaded jackboot brigade.
Remember, all of this is just the party's public face - the people it thinks can cope best in the media spotlight. Not handling it so well, are they?
But it's even worse down at the party's grass roots, where the party's mask slips to reveal the snapping, snarling face of pure racist hatred.
In the last couple of months alone, an "aggressive and hostile" mob of BNP members tried to drive off No2EU campaigners in Carlisle.
And leading anti-fascist Alec McFadden - who was stabbed by a racist thug on his doorstep three years ago - was the subject of threatening BNP leaflets in his Liverpool neighbourhood.
Then there's the lengthy list of BNP members convicted of crimes such as sex attacks on schoolgirls, gang rape, drug-dealing, arson, possessing explosives, racially aggravated assault - and mass murder in the case of David Copeland, who killed three and injured nearly 150 with bomb attacks on Brixton, Brick Lane and gay pub the Admiral Duncan not long after leaving the BNP.
So let the message go out loud and clear. Voters have every reason to protest at the sorry, rotten state of their representatives in the Commons - with the honourable exception of those principled MPs who have not been caught on the fiddle.
But voting BNP is no kind of protest, no matter how much the party trots out socialist-sounding policies to win favour with the disaffected working class.
We know what we get with a vote for the BNP. And it's not an end to sleaze and scandal. It's more of the same, with a side order of racist scaremongering.
The task now is to make sure every voter in Britain knows it by the time the polls open on June 4.

http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/index.php/comment/the_bnp_con_trick

Melbourne Lefty
30th May 2009, 05:36
Richie richie richie.....:lol:

Caught with his pants down this time!:laugh:

Sadly it probably wont lead to much, but exposing him as a liar and widely publicising it will probably do more damage than jumping up and down screaming "Nazi" at the top of your lungs.