Todays BNP Party Political Broacast

[h0m0revolutionary]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8lprxiOFc

Hmm..

opens with
"Do you remember when our country was a wonderful place?"

To be honest im surprised at how awful it is, I expected better from them. It is boring, badly done and makes alot of obscure links.

they're clearly desperate to distance themselves from Nazism as they speak about how second and third generation immigrants, those who "came in the 50's and 60's" have "contributed" to our Country and can therefore stay. But we should take no more 0_O

They then go on to say how our country defeated the Nazi's in WW2 "to preserve our traditional British and Christian values" (!) even more shameless "our war heros fought like lions to stop Britain being swamped by Foreign invadors" - I mean that's true, but they are blaming the war on immigration and the EU (lol!) - they go on to say that the Nazi's were "evil" because they had a "plan to create a totalitarian European superstate". :blink:(I can tihnk of a few other reaons why the Nazi's were evil.. apparently the BNP cannot)

Best quote of the P.E.B has to be --> "the hero's who laid down their lives to save this country from past invasions must be turning in their graves..." *drumroll for obscure link* "... because immigration has become an invasion" :confused:

They then go on to:
- describe human rights as 'political correctness'
- allege that Local Councils tear down England Flags
- Suggest that Islam encourages violence against jews, women and Christian Churches. As well as encouraging both heroin (??) and terrorism
- say that Britain has "open borders" (if only we did! haha)

It's nothing new that come elections the put on their mask of moderation, but this could have been a tory broadcast, it's very wet. Of course this is a tactic by the BNP, but I think it'll just alienate their core support who might not have been aware their beloved party abandoned it's 'involuntary repatriation' policy a while back in favour of a nicer 'voluntary' policy..

Also noteworthy is their reaching out to the Jewish Community. This has been a central core of their election campaign, first they sided with Israel when Israe recently invaded Gaza (portraying it as a conflict against Muslim extremism) and more recently they issused a leaflet in and around the London Jewish community that expressed sympathy with their plight against muslim extremists (?)
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/apr/10/thefarright.race)

Interesting vid. But dirt poor quality and I imagine won't do them very well.

[Holden Caulfield]

I like the pictures of all the historical figures on their blog, I want to know whether they enjoyed England more when the working class were in work houses and press ganged into the navy or when we lived in slums dying en masse of cholera or when they sent us into the wars to die, or when all our industry was destroyed by greedy liberal capitalists...

[Killfacer]

British christian values. Christ. I don't think this advert is going to do them many favours to be honest.

[Dr Mindbender]

British christian values. Christ..

I wonder if the BNP would have deported Jesus.

[Pogue]

They are such mugs, but is this anything suprising to us? Same shit really, loads of attempts to stir up national pride and love of Churchill etc from a party whose leaders openly have claimed to hate Churchill, favouring instead Hitler in WW2. The lengths to which they are willing to lie about their true views to appear respectable are amazing, and something we have to mind - the more they try to appear more moderate, the more we have to hilight how its just a front for their fascist views.

[rednordman]

Only saw half of it and then turned it off. Is it me, or are the BNP taking the recession and corruption, as their one and only chance to get a foothold within this country?

Its true though, its all pretty poor material in all honesty. When i see stuff like this, though it is hatefull, I breath a little sigh of relief as it shows to me that they are not in control of their own situation and have not got any answers or know-how to get taken seriously.

If people are stupid enough to vote for them, one could say they deserve whats coming.

[Dr Mindbender]

Only saw half of it and then turned it off. Is it me, or are the BNP taking the recession and corruption, as their one and only chance to get a foothold within this country?


Absolutely, i dare say their beer hall putsch will be coming shortly.

[Holden Caulfield]

Absolutely, i dare say their beer hall putsch will be coming shortly.

they had it in 1992, if we are gonna compare to the BNP to the NSDAP: they have had their attempt at street politics, and have now assumed parliamentary politics.

[Bitter Ashes]

I didnt think the BNP were even allowed a Party Broadcast yet. I thought each party is allowed one broadcast per 10 MPs that was elected last time or something and seeing as though they havent ever been elected a single seat in parliment ever, well, it makes me wonder.

The scary thing is that some people I've spoken to recently have been lured into all this bullshit from the BNP. >.<

[Melbourne Lefty]

Also noteworthy is their reaching out to the Jewish Community. This has been a central core of their election campaign, first they sided with Israel when Israe recently invaded Gaza (portraying it as a conflict against Muslim extremism) and more recently they issused a leaflet in and around the London Jewish community that expressed sympathy with their plight against muslim extremists (?)


This is more worrying, If Grifffin feels able to say this then he really must have marginalised the old nazi rump. None of them would have stood for that.

We have to remember that racism is not the reason those nazis stayed around, it was a belief system which had Jews at the centre of everything bad in the world. To even reach out to them would be an action worse than mixed race relationships to them.

Take a look at scumfront and you can still see some of the nazis kicking up a fuss.

The BNP are clearly trying to position themselves as being ethnic nationalist rather than nazi. Sort of a Tamil Tigers except with saggy old bald men who go from door to door instead of guns.

I really think its a message they may have a chance of selling, but hopefully they crash and burn next week and no-one has to worry about the pricks anymore.:)

[h0m0revolutionary]

I really think its a message they may have a chance of selling, but hopefully they crash and burn next week and no-one has to worry about the pricks anymore.:)

I know you're not saying otherwise. But i have to pick up on this.. because we DO have to worry about the BNP, regardless of wether they're elected or not.

It's percisely because the left has done so little effective campaigning against them that we now see such hysteria about them standing in the EU elections and if early indications are anything to go by set to do relatively well.

If they get in we fight them, if they don't get in we fight them anyway.

I hate it how only around an election campaign does the left start to re-evaluate the need for militant anti-fascism. Ohter than that most of the left are quite content to ignore the BNP or write about how bad they are; doing nothing to actually impede their ability to organise.

[Q]

I stumbled upon it when I was zapping (we receive BBC1 and 2 here) and it was awful. I just don't understand how that could have aired.

[OneNamedNameLess]

This whole WW2 thing really aggravates me. People seem to identify a correlation between the Nazis and Islamist extremism even though we are attempting to tackle a tiny minority of radicals. I can't have a debate these days without the subject coming up with the usual 'we would all be speaking German' nonsense. WW2 is used to justify everything now. I mean it's not even related to immigration at all. What the fuck is all that about?

[Holden Caulfield]

blindly playing on nationalist sentiments, same thing the fash did after WW1

[Pogue]

I love how they talk about Islam being sexist and then go on to say we should have Christian values. Yes, Christian values like banning homosexuality, valuing one people as 'Gods people', etc :rolleyes:

[Holden Caulfield]

I love how they talk about Islam being sexist and then go on to say we should have Christian values. Yes, Christian values like banning homosexuality, valuing one people as 'Gods people', etc :rolleyes:

the BNP have an awful record on feminist issues, and are about as reactionary as it gets

[Pogue]

the BNP have an awful record on feminist issues, and are about as reactionary as it gets

that too, yes

[Sam_b]

I didnt think the BNP were even allowed a Party Broadcast yet. I thought each party is allowed one broadcast per 10 MPs that was elected last time or something and seeing as though they havent ever been elected a single seat in parliment ever, well, it makes me wonder.


I have never heard of this rule ever. The SLP and SSP have also had political broadcasts. This rule would never make any sense anyway as we're dealing with the European Parliament and not national parliaments.

[brigadista]

they are exploiting the current little englander nostalgia which makes them very dangerous indeed because they are likely to get a lot of support -

the old NF member was preferable in that they completely maginlised themeselves as extreme - however the "respectable "face of the BNP as the "middle ground" is really worrying - I would think an emphasis on some of the criminal records[for violent crime] of their leadership may help but then again it might not..

[Sean]

Totally ignoring the video, the propaganda is quite interesting. BNP members are known to flood any and every comments section of news articles that mentions the party, but I've never had a look at how they work on YouTube.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9284/bnp1.jpg

A vote for Emma is a vote for racism! Until now I had surmised that X Factor was a front for nazis but had no proof. Or wait, perhaps they just spammed this as a "reply" to something that people actually care about in the hope that they can piggyback it.

All the posts are completely rational, positive messages from the general public. Why, here comes a chap who has just went and researched this new BNP lark:

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6743/bnp4.jpg

Hmm, a normal member of the public it would seem just looked them up and has been totally convinced.


http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2655/bnp3.jpg

Before hopping in his time machine and friending the fucking account 4 days before that comment.
Its almost as if there is zero opposition to the BNP's message, like out of the many people who have view it, only BNP members can comment. But of course they wouldn't edit out rational arguments against them and just leave in obvious strawmen caricatures...

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6839/bnp2.jpg

Oh look a crazed terrorist and in no way a troll account. Oh dear, that's the chap Mr. Griffin just warned us about. Hmm, it seems that we've only two choices, the polite ladies and gentlemen who all seem to be voting BNP or this mean old Muslim terrorist here, although a lot of YouTube detectives have their suspicions that's a BNP member in disguise. Poppycock!

[Melbourne Lefty]

the old NF member was preferable in that they completely maginlised themeselves as extreme


Indeed.

The racist who dresses and acts just like everyone else is far more dangerous than a young thug obviously out to intimidate people.

A big reason for this is that of the young thug gets a kicking people assume he was asking for it.

If you beat up middle aged BNP canvassers [who indeed may have been NF thugs back in the day but sure dont look like it now] you may very well get people who would have otherwised supported anti-racism/fascism off-side.

This needs a radical re-evaluation. Direct physical action against BNP members should be kept at the highest levels, direct action against property on the other hand needs to be stepped up, these middle class middle aged NEW BNPers are likely to be not as committed as the old thugs were, and less likely to take the consequences of joining a divisive party.