Totalitarianism in America

[PCommie]

Obama is going to appoint another czar, a "Cyber Czar," who will watch the internet and report directly to the WH Security & Economic boards. I think we can safely say "Goodbye" to RevLeft and "Hello" to the U.T.S.A: The United Totalitarian States of America.

H&S forever,
-PC

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Or it's yet another wasteful boondoggle shat out by the interminable bureaucracy of the American bourgeoisie that will come to nothing much at all.

Does anyone remember ECHELON?

[Havet]

Obama is going to appoint another czar, a "Cyber Czar," who will watch the internet and report directly to the WH Security & Economic boards. I think we can safely say "Goodbye" to RevLeft and "Hello" to the U.T.S.A: The United Totalitarian States of America.

H&S forever,
-PC

Link or it didn't happen (jk)

I had warned about this in another thread, where some people advocated government control over the internet as to prevent "businesses from exploiting users"...

My exact post was:


Let me ask you this, do you think that if the National Science Foundation run the internet still today REVLEFT would have been allowed to exist? With all the anti-commie propaganda government has accustomed us to it's hard to believe they would let REVLEFT exist.

which was in response to:


We'd have been better off with continued, University "open standards" with computers and the National Science Foundation running the internet (as they did in the 90s) instead of the e-commerce and Apple and MS bullshit that exists now.

[Kronos]

I think we can safely say "Goodbye" to RevLeft

Relax, homes. No such thing will happen. In fact, the working classes should be happy this is happening. Taking measures to "secure private sector networks" is a step in the right direction. Remember, when the capitalists take a financial hit....they compensate for it by shifting the burden onto the working classes. Putting the internet on lock-down will keep the capitalists nice and calm.

You know, now that I think about it, I think a majority of what is on the internet should be abolished or severely regulated. What's left after the mindless distracting hypnotic audio/video entertainment to keep everyone zombified is the worthless crap they read. The internet is like a shopping mall amusement park. What was it I read the other day....the average attention span of the average american was like twenty seconds? I wonder why when everyone's brain has turned to mush.

I say bring Big Brother. Fuckin bring it.

[gorillafuck]

I think we can safely say "Goodbye" to RevLeft
That's not going to happen.

[mykittyhasaboner]

As others have already expressed, I have my doubts of course. Maybe some people just don't understand the amount of monitoring is needed to cover the whole picture; its not as easy as "lets monitor the internet" is what I'm getting at. If they wanted to document all internet activity (something like the UK is currently working on, iirc), it would take a lot of labor power and organization. This is of course not terribly difficult to accomplish if you have the resources of the US state at your hands; but its still not that easy.

Don't get to worked up about Revleft being banned or whatever yet.

[Kronos]

Yeah well we need a contingency plan just in case Revleft gets crashed or outlawed.

Where are we gonna meet up? The old abandoned warehouse downtown? The smokey basement of Tony's bar and grill?

Seriously, we need a plan. We need a back up website. I know a lame one which would accept thousands of Revleft refugees if it came down to it.

Just give me the word and I'll notify the administrators to keep the doors open and the light on. Who knows what Obamarama is up to. He could be an evil reptilian Illuminati leader for all we know.

[Dyslexia! Well I Never!]

Oh my it seems everyone has lost their heads some revolutionaries you turned out to be eh?

Who gives a shit if the government knows you posted the words "die" "fucking" "wish" "Obama" "would" "I" in no particular order the problem is that they're advocating monitoring all internet activity. Like online banking transactions for example.

I don't really give two shits if the government knows I thinks they're all fat mindless fucks who are nothing but a speedbump on the way to freedom and equality but how they're serving the people by knowing my pin number, opinions on Warhammer background and what porn I like to look at is beyond me.

[Bud Struggle]

No offence, but nobody in government cares about RevLeft. Nobody's here plotting the actual overthrow of countries. This is a site dedicated to a utopian ideal in a future age. It doesn't matter in the least that that ideal is Communism.

[Robert]

It amuses me to see you guys get all excited over the slightest indication that the U.S. government is even monitoring internet content (side question: who does not monitor the internet anymore?), and you never say anything, not a word, about the unbridled, systematic censorship in the People's Republic of China. Why is that?


The size of the Internet police (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_police) is estimated at more than 30,000.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_ China#cite_note-2) Critical comments appearing on Internet forums (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum), blogs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog), and major portals such as Sohu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sohu) and Sina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sina.com) usually are erased within minutes. The apparatus of the PRC's Internet repression is considered more extensive and more advanced than in any other country in the world. The regime not only blocks website content but also monitors the internet access of individuals. Amnesty International (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesty_International) notes that China “has the largest recorded number of imprisoned journalists and cyber-dissidents in the world.” The offences of which they are accused include communicating with groups abroad, opposing the persecution of the Falun Gong, signing online petitions, and calling for reform and an end to corruption.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_ China#cite_note-3)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_ China

If you won't believe me or Wiki, read the reports from Amnesty International.

[LOLseph Stalin]

No offence, but nobody in government cares about RevLeft. Nobody's here plotting the actual overthrow of countries. This is a site dedicated to a utopian ideal in a future age. It doesn't matter in the least that that ideal is Communism.

If they're to care about the activities of a website it should be Stormfront. The users of that site are actually openly promoting hatred. Not only that, but they actually go out onto the streets and promote hatred there as well. All we're trying to promote is better working conditions, equality, etc. The government worrying about revleft is just silly unless of course they truly believe we're plotting overthrows here which I don't see.

[PCommie]

If they're to care about the activities of a website it should be Stormfront. The users of that site are actually openly promoting hatred. Not only that, but they actually go out onto the streets and promote hatred there as well.

They, too, believe they're promoting freedom, as do we. A determined bourgeois asshole could call us a hate site, too, because we want to destroy the bourgeoisie. RevLeft is quite in danger. Not immediately, maybe, but as this government becomes progressively more totalitarian, we will be.


It amuses me to see you guys get all excited over the slightest indication that the U.S. government is even monitoring internet content (side question: who does not monitor the internet anymore?), and you never say anything, not a word, about the unbridled, systematic censorship in the People's Republic of China. Why is that?

No one likes China here, moron. They're state cappies, not communists or socialists of any form.

H&S forever,
-PC

[RGacky3]

Not immediately, maybe, but as this government becomes progressively more totalitarian, we will be.

Revleft IS NOT AN ORGANIZATION!!!

[Dimentio]

Obama is going to appoint another czar, a "Cyber Czar," who will watch the internet and report directly to the WH Security & Economic boards. I think we can safely say "Goodbye" to RevLeft and "Hello" to the U.T.S.A: The United Totalitarian States of America.

H&S forever,
-PC

Czar is only a title. I don't understand why it has became so popular in America though.

[Robert]

No one likes China here, moron. They're state cappies, not communists or socialists of any form.

Yes, there was definitely more freedom of expression in China before they started allowing private ownership of the means of production, like during the Cultural Revolution. Now those were the days of wine and roses.

But seriously, 30,000 internet police in China and you "don't like" it?

[Robert]

Czar is only a title. I don't understand why it has became so popular in America though.

It's because we're imperialist monarchists. No, actually I'd be surprised if they call this guy a "czar."

Remember William Bennett, the Director of National Drug Control Policy? He was supposedly the "drug czar" in the 80's, but that was just a colloquial and I think derogatory term that Joe Biden used in the media to describe the office. Biden is likely to say anything. Now everybody thinks the U.S. government has czars.

[Robert]

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[Kronos]

No one likes China here, moron. They're state cappies, not communists or socialists of any form.

Which is precisely what they should be in a competitive global market. There is no chance in hell the state will ever "wither away" while other capitalist superpowers of the world are trying to monopolize and colonize any third world countries left standing. China is doing exactly what they should be doing right now- building the industrial base to become an equal power to competing capitalist countries.

China needs only to wait, watch, and control its country with a firm fist as the free market collapses by its own devices. Then the tables will be turned and China will emerge as the winner.

[RGacky3]

Then the tables will be turned and China will emerge as the winner.

By China you mean the Chinese ruling class.