Who is working class?

[SecondLife]

I still read only "learning", because I still can't get clear what kind of creature is this "working class". I lived in ussr and now in capitalist ex-ussr, but still wasn't seen any "working-class". In ussr, there all people were workers. Now most of people are workers, 7% are unemployed and others are parasites who get profit.
Workers now are interested about capitalism, free market, bourgeoisie, nationalism and fascism. I know the same situation exist also in ex-Yugoslavia (you probably know about this terrible nationalist war), Poland etc. If example tomorrow give power to workers, then starts terrible nationalist bloodshed. Is this what Lenin means - to give power to working-class? I don't think that Lenin even suspects this kind of situation. Ok, now you say that working-class isn't just enough awareness (this is some strange to say for ex-ussr people where was already revolution). But then how about USA or Europe? Here most users are from USA and Europe. This thread gives answer for this question - http://www.revleft.com/vb/people-your-country-t108264/index.html
.....commus are idiots, traitor etc. Not much better situation.
Where to look more? Islam countries? Even worse! There even woman isn't human. Begins workers there kill also womans?
Can working-class really nowadays lead revolution? Is nowadays at all revolution situation somewhere?
I can see only one solution:
1. communists-party rename itself fascists to give workers support and be voted.
2. when in power, rename itself back to communist-party and make coup d'etat.
3. start freeing workers.

[Sam_b]

Where to look more? Islam countries? Even worse! There even woman isn't human. Begins workers there kill also womans?

Way to try and generalise and stereotype a significant number of countries. Anyway....proof?


I can see only one solution:
1. communists-party rename itself fascists to give workers support and be voted.
2. when in power, rename itself back to communist-party and make coup d'etat.
3. start freeing workers.


Or, we could not go for a damned stupid idea such as this, which reeks of populism, and start the long and adruous task of building class conscious workers, taking our tradition from the examples set by the Bolsheviks. There is no 'quick fix' solution to stopping capitalism, it certainly doesn't come from your reformist tactics of 'voting in' left-wingers to launch a coup: It comes from a woring class overthrowing of the system and this involves having to educate, agitate and above all organise our class.

[Communist Theory]

Are you a fascist?
You make no sense like them.

[SecondLife]

I agree with you, and also with this education, agitation..etc. But this maybe (I don't know, I'm not sure) works in UK, but certainly not in ex-ussr, ex-yugoslavia, islam.... In ex-ussr the situation is: the more you fight for workers right or more you educate people, the more you becomes just traitor. They understand even before you end your sentence that you are traitor and stop listening you more.

[Sam_b]

If it wouldn't work in the 'ex-USSR', then why did it work in monarchist, authoritarian Russia? As Lenin said we have to 'patiently explain' to the class, and its naive to think this will be easy or will be done quickly. I don't think we should dilute or change our politics to try and speed things up.

I'd also like to see your evidence for the quote I highlighted above? Thanks.