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Bitter Ashes
24th May 2009, 00:51
In light of the MP's expenses scandal in the UK, public anger has been rising and I heard yesterday, from a co-worker, that she intends to set up a petition demanding that the MP's are charged (what charge they could be given I'm not sure. Fraud perhaps?) by the police and taken to court.

Although petitions have no legal requirement to be listened to by parllment, regardless of the number of signatures, she is adamant that this could get these MP's handed a criminal record and expelled from Parliment, forcing by-elections nationwide. Although not socialist, she does believe that this would unite people which would be a good thing.

Meanwhile I'm not so sure whether I should support this method. Although the MP's have certainly done wrong, we're currently living under the heel of capitalism, where the law rewards people who do bad things like this, not punishes them, making it unlikely that the required response would be achieved. Furthermore, we'd be leaving the responsibility for punishment to an insitution, which of course follows the laws regardless of thier right or wrong. I also think that maybe it'd be better for the public to consider these "unpunished crimes" and allow thier dissatisfaction for representative democracy simmer, rather than allow it to rally support by showing the "success" of the institution to punish the ruling class. Finaly, there is an even bigger danger with forcing by-elections and that is that the public may have lost confidence in the major parties, but not representative democracy and could end up voting in some lunatics like the BNP or something.

So, should I support her, or for that matter, would you support her? I'm personaly thinking not, but I could do with some feedback and maybe some points that I might have missed in defence of handing over responsibility to the police, rather than the entire working class, to punish.

Lynx
24th May 2009, 01:24
a) The rule of law requires that they be prosecuted if they have committed a crime. A petition should not be necessary to ensure that justice is served. (hello theory, welcome to the real world!)
b) Public opinion over this scandal may well punish the culprits at election time.

I don't see how supporting the initiatives you describe detracts from the argument that corruption of this sort is a symptom of representative democracy. It's not that the public will feel less frustrated, it's that they aren't aware of alternative criticisms of the status quo.

und
24th May 2009, 01:28
I think that the way things are going at the moment is great. It encourages public awareness and class consciousness in a way only this kind of event could.

Bitter Ashes
24th May 2009, 11:42
Okay. 4 votes for yes so far. That's more than I thought. So, any of those want to get in touch with her for a petition so they can go signing around thier local area?

Sam_b
24th May 2009, 14:14
I don't think petitions work and regard them only as being useful to recruit and engage people in conversation.