Mumia Abu-Jamal interviews Bob Marley - yeah

[canikickit]

Here (http://www.bobmarley.freeserve.co.uk/jamal.htm) you can download the interview in MP3 format.

This (http://www.iration.com/wailers/mumia_bob.html) is a transcript of the interview, I'm not actually sure if it is the same interview, but what the hell, right?




ah, it's not working at the moment. Maybe it will later, or maybe it's just screwed. (http://www.alternativetentacles.com/product.php?product=413&[email protected])

Here's a direct link to the page with the MP3. You can download a couple of tracks from Mumia's album.

[canikickit]

Hoo-ha.

[Rastafari]

I totally missed this-thanks for bumping it.

Anyway, he who knows more about Bob Marley than Mr. Timothy White (but don't we all?), decode this cryptic phrase and what it meant to Bob in 1979. He hadn't yet converted to Christianity (openly, at least), and this little snippet seems to work against itself, as some many componants of the admirable faith do:

And Christ is Rastafari!


Interesting stuff all around, though. Uplifting all around, like biting into a big socio-political cookie, seen?

[Hampton]

Here's an 8 minute version of the interview:

http://www.prisonradio.org/maj/maj_marley.html

[Rastafari]

was this actually aired on the radio in '79?


edit:
I just realized at the end of the interview that it was Mumia Abu-Jamal talking inbetween. What a dumbass I am.
He spaced some of his words like William Shatner, but it all worked out in the end. This was set up very differently from the transcript.

Thanks for sharing this, Hampton.

[canikickit]

You missed it because you weren't here, Rastafari.
Why does that comment work against itself though?

I'd imagine he meant the fact that Jesus (as a prophet of the Rastafarian faith) was filled with the spirit of God, or whatever.
Perhaps you've heard of the sect of Rastafarians known as "Jesus Dreads" who believe that Christ was the real messiah.

Vivian Jackson, better known as Yabby You was one such proponent of this faith and suffered a lot of rejection from the "mainstream" rastas at the time because of it.
He went through a lot of tribulation in his life, leaving home at the age of 12 to work in a furnace making Dutch pots (not smoking Dutch pot), and at 17 being hospitalised due to severe malnutrition. Upon leaving hospital he had also developed arthritis. In 1969 he risked his health to return to work in the furnace to get the money together to go a studio and record.

Check out the album, "Jesus Dread 1972 - 1977" on Blood and Fire (I'm pretty sure I've advertised that record before).

http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk/shop/cds/BAFCD21.htm

Click on the "Sleeve" button for an extensive biography and check out Trinty's "Shanty Town Determination" for more of Yabby You's production skills.

[Hampton]

My sources say that the interview took place just before the Black Music Association concert in Philadelphia where Bob was joined onstage by Stevie Wonder for the encore, and Mumia was on the radio until 1981 so I'm guessing it did, I can probally find out what radio station if you need to know.

I'd like to get the audio of that encore though.

And hey kids, sharing is fundamental.

[Rastafari]

Perhaps you've heard of the sect of Rastafarians known as "Jesus Dreads" who believe that Christ was the real messiah.
I've never heard of them. How would they still technically be "Rastafarians," though, if they didn't think that HIM was the Messiah?

I guess Jesus was black, but that's a givin' anyway

[canikickit]

Well I guess the considered themselves rastas through the other Rastafarian sacraments, such as ital living; the food they eat, their cannabis consumption, their beliefs in the need for (cultural) repatriation, their respect for black nationalism and their spiritual habits.

this is what Yabby You himself saids:

"You 'ave the Rasta culture, you 'ave the Bobo culture and you 'ave the Ites culture. Like you 'ave the Rasta man now, who call 'imself the wholesome Rasta man, dem worship Haile Selassie, Rasta Far I. My first home was with the Ites (heights) people - we use to 'ave a belief that the Almighty is a power wha' create Creation an' live within man. The Rasta man 'ave a belief that Haile Selassie was the returned Messiah, so you always 'ave a conflic' between reasonings."

Dem use to deal with Rastafari an' I deal with Jah through Jesus Christ"

I was reasoning, an' I was sayin' that I don't see Rastafari as the Supreme, because I say the Supreme live inside a we as temples, as a higher heights, the highest heights in Creation. An' it cause a big dispute with the whol' a dem Rasta man. Me hold on to my opinion, an' dem hold on to dem opinion, till it become boring. Aní then, all of a sudden the rain start up, an' dem go 'way, go sleep. When dem a sleep, it's like I hear someting, a sound, like a strange ting, inside a my thoughts - like an angel a sing. When the thunder roll, it come in like music to me. Me hear these sounds, yunno: 'King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah'. Me try sing along to the sounds weh me hear, an' eventually dem wake up an' a listen to me. Dem say tings like these - it sound like a new kind of sound wha' could go 'pon record, an' so me should a penetrate that an' go into recordin'. Dem jus' talkin' coincidentally, but me tek it serious, yunno ?"



SEEN, BUMBO KLAAT?!

[Rastafari]

overstood

[Urban Rubble]

How would they still technically be "Rastafarians," though if they didn't think that HIM was the Messiah?

You'd be suprised at how many of the Rastas have thrown out the notion of Selassie as messiah. Most of the sects gave that up after Selassie was dethroned. However, the Twelve Tribes Of Israel (Bob's sect) have really hung onto it, and since they have been the most prominent of the Rasta groups since the 80's people automatically think all Rastas still believe that.

The Rastas of the Eastern Carribean never really called him Messiah, they recognized his significance as an African King (especially of Abbysinia) but that was it, no worship. They were more concerned with politics, they didn't believe in going back to Africa or any of that.

Basically, the core of the Rastafarian movement has given up that notion of HIM being a divinity, though many of them still put his image on everything and speak of him because he was significant as an African king.

[Rastafari]

so what do you call a rastafarian who no longer beleives in rastafari.
I wonder if any of them think Marcus Garvey was the messiah, that'd be cool

[Urban Rubble]

so what do you call a rastafarian who no longer beleives in rastafari.

I'm not sure you fully understand Rastafarianism. It isn't all about Selassie, it's actually less about that than you would think.


I wonder if any of them think Marcus Garvey was the messiah, that'd be cool

They look at Garvey as a prophet, nothing more. Garvey actually thought very little of Rastas.

[Rastafari]

I'm not sure you fully understand Rastafarianism. It isn't all about Selassie, it's actually less about that than you would think.

Sure it is, but that's what it happens to lend its name from. What do you call Christians who don't beleive that Christ was the son of God?


They look at Garvey as a prophet, nothing more. Garvey actually thought very little of Rastas.
Yeah, they're whole situation on him is based on lies. He never really respected H.I.M., or even said his famous "Look to the west for the African King" or whatnot.

[Urban Rubble]

Didn't Walter Rodney say that about the African King ? Maybe I'm jsut confused.