Church knew about abuse endemic.

[Lord Testicles]

Link.

(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8059826.stm)
An inquiry into child abuse at Catholic institutions in Ireland has found church leaders knew that sexual abuse was "endemic" in boys' institutions.
It also found physical and emotional abuse and neglect were features of institutions.
Schools were run "in a severe, regimented manner that imposed unreasonable and oppressive discipline on children and even on staff".
The nine-year inquiry investigated a 60-year period.
About 35,000 children were placed in a network of reformatories, industrial schools and workhouses up to the 1980s.
More than 2,000 told the Commission to Inquire Into Child Abuse they suffered physical and sexual abuse while there.
The leader of the Catholic Church in Ireland, Cardinal Sean Brady, said he was "profoundly sorry and deeply ashamed that children suffered in such awful ways in these institutions".


(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8059826.stm)The article goes on to talk about how some children were ritually beaten and how girls under the care of the sisters of mercy suffered "frequent assaults and humiliation designed to make them feel worthless".

So catholics....

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(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8059826.stm)

[OneNamedNameLess]

Perhaps if these church elders were permitted greater sexual freedoms they would lack the desire to sexually abuse children.

[Lord Testicles]

Perhaps if these church elders were permitted greater sexual freedoms they would lack the desire to sexually abuse children.

Maybe, but that doesn't explain away the ritual beatings or the desire to make children feel worthless.

It also doesn't address why other members of the church chose to cover it up, is that what Jesus would do?

[OneNamedNameLess]

Maybe, but that doesn't explain away the ritual beatings or the desire to make children feel worthless.

Yeah I know. It was a dig at the church is all.

I actually know an older woman who was raised with her sisters by nuns and suffered terrible abuse. The funny thing is, she is still a practicing Catholic who attends mass with my mother.

I still put it down to sexual frustration or maybe brainwashed violence and indoctrination in order to communicate the message of the church to the children. Putting 'the fear of God' into someone is arguably an effective way of channeling your ideas. Religious groups have practiced it for centuries.

[Lord Testicles]

I wasn't being confrontational. I just can't accept that sexual frustration is what lead these priests and nuns to abuse the children they were supposed to care for. I get sexually frustrated sometimes, it usually ends up with me having sex with my palm, I certainly don't get an urge to abuse people.

The "putting the fear of God" into someone is definitely a more plausable explanation for the beatings and humiliation, IMO.

[Decolonize The Left]

Another drop in the bucket. The hypocrisy of religious institutions, as well as their barbarous and heinous activities, will continue to surface so long as they continue to exist.

Just keep throwing the information out there.

- August

[Dyslexia! Well I Never!]

Religion (particularly in the west) is at it's core the systematic repression of doubt to sustain the credibility of a belief that is realistically utterly incredible.

One of the main reasons an institution (a church for example) "must" uphold this belief is because it enables them to influence behavior by declaring some things taboo/sinful/shameful.

Have you ever tried to convince a child of anything perfectly rational that I doesn't want to accept? It can be highly fustrating to say the least.

Now imagine trying to convince this stubborn child of something so wildly implausible that many adults view it as bullshit. That's why Catholics hit kids.