communist and money

[SecondLife]

I heared sometimes that real communist must be poor. For me this is a little crazy viewpoint. But how poor? If communist example have private ownership, personal house example (in reality this is rather personal belongings). Is then he/she rich or poor? This depends in most where he/she lives, because in Africa housing is much cheaper than in Europe.
Other aspect is in viewpoint that regardless how rich you are in capitalist country (only if you are worker), then in socialist country you must be anyway richer, because socialism works through rational economy planning. I know that example Che gave away all their assets and if he wants something, then he expects also the same from others (regardless that he was from middle class). But we aren't all Che's. There is also many examples where most radical lefts were from middle class (Weathermen in USA,etc).
....but this is only chit-chat, not importand tread at all. Just in case, maybe someone really think that amount of personal belongings means some importancy. And then how much?

[GracchusBabeuf]

Communists should lead the life of ascetics :lol:

[Panda Tse Tung]

Lol, they shouldn't be poor. But in terms of class-consciousness and not being alienated from the people it is certainly an advantage to be working-class (or at least, thats my experience with non-working class folks).

[SecondLife]

Lol, they shouldn't be poor. But in terms of class-consciousness and not being alienated from the people

Surely, if communist wants to make public politic, otherwise nobody believes him. But if he don't want to make public politic, example urban guerilla. Most of them are far from people, but they are still communists.
Also example if most of population are conservatives, nationalists or

religious, especially working-class, then there is also very hard to be not alienated. Also, if I am unemployed, how I can be sure that I belong to working-class, but there isn't regardless any restrictions to be communist.

[frozencompass]

One is supposed to live the way the system he lives in forces them to. To me, as long as one remains communist, it doesn't matter if he is rich or not under capitalism.

[Pogue]

Mate I think some people maybe thrown a bit by the questions in the poll. They're phrased kind of oddly, meaning they are vague. I'm not going to vote because none of those options really make much sense.

[Killfacer]

I don't think socialists need to be poor, i mean most people on this site come from lower middle class backgrounds.

However, i think it is important that more comfortable lefties don't just go straight from college to university to a comfortable job without actually meeting working people.

[Delirium]

You cannot be a communist and be bourgeois.

[Il Medico]

Rich and poor will not exist in a communist society. I does not matter.

[SecondLife]

You cannot be a communist and be bourgeois.
Thats right, you can't be in the same time communist and private owner, but you can be rich and communist (of course I mean this in capitalist society). Example you can sell your ownership before becoming communist. Maybe just someone don't be interested anymore about business.
Point is that who is "working class" and who is "bourgeois". In 1917 there was very clear who is who. Sometimes bourgeois say that nowadays don't exist anymore classes. Of course this is lie, because only in socialism/communism don't exist classes. But nowadays there don't exist terms as "working class" or "bourgeois", or more correct nowadays this can't be determined by money or social position, but rather by economic relationships - if you have private ownership or means of production, then you are bourgeois and if you don't own or have them, then you are working class. There don't need to be any repression as it happens mostly while or after revolution, because question isn't about people but about economic relations.

Rich and poor will not exist in a communist society. I does not matter.
It hardly depends what you mean about "rich" or "poor". In communist society maybe really can't exist this, but in capitalist society can.

[Jia]

My parents are rich. I'm rich. I'm writing on a highly expensive laptop and watching a huge HD TV. We are almost unaffected by the recession, and we live in a nice home with everything we need.

Yet I'm a Communist? :confused:
Because not everyone has this and I feel privileged and lucky. Go ahead and make me feel bad because I've heard it before.

[gorillafuck]

I live in a household that makes exactly the median 4-person household income in my state (I know this from doing a school project). That's not rich but it's not exactly poor, and I am a communist.

I think the important thing is to realize that there are those people who can't get what they need in life and fight on their behalf. Though you shouldn't be a business owner if you're a communist.

[Pirate Utopian]

Communists not only should be poor but should talk and write as in a stereotypical Russian way.
Be sure to call everyone you disagree with either bourgeoise or fascist. :cool:

[ZeroNowhere]

I really do not give a fuck.
Also, yes, you can be communist and bourgeois.