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apathy maybe
14th May 2009, 13:03
By announcing it will re-introduce its 'Alcopops' tax after June 18, the Rudd government has ramped up prospects of an early double dissolution election.

The government is re-introducing the bill not because it wants an early election, but because it wants the legislation passed. But re-introducing it in a manner that permits the legislation to become a double dissolution trigger ramps up the pressure on the Opposition and the Senate cross-benchers to pass the legislation or potentially face the electoral consequences.

If the Senate again blocks the 'Alcopops' legislation after June 18, the Government will have a trigger to call a double dissolution at any time between July this year and October 2010. That will provide a useful stick for the government to use against the Senate as the Government attempts to pass its Budget measures, as well as its legislation to introduce a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme (CPRS).
Original article (quoted above) (p://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2009/05/by-announcing-i.html) and the Wikipedia's article on double dissolutions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_dissolution)

So, there is the potential for a DD election. I don't believe in voting in government elections (partly due to me being an anarchist). However, with a DD election, all the senators are up for re-election, making it a lot easier for minor parties to win (to quote from the same article as above):

However, by reducing the quota for election from 14.3% to 7.7%, a double dissolution could also bring into the Senate a rag-tag collection of unknown Senators from micro-parties, elected thanks to the vagaries of the Senate's preferential voting system.

Which does make it a little bit more agreeable to vote. In such a situation I would expect to see more Greens (up from the current five), maybe a Family First (unchanged), maybe one of those racist fuckers, DLP perhaps? and so on.

What makes it more agreeable when a racist, sexist homophobe might get elected? The fact that you can also choose to vote for (among others):
Climate Change Coalition
Australian Sex Party
What Women Want
Senator On-Line
Nuclear Disarmament Party
(Currently registered parties (http://aec.gov.au/Parties_and_Representatives/Party_Registration/Registered_parties/index.htm))

Sound like fun?

So, the question is, with the possibility of a "rag-tag" party getting in, will that influence your vote?

(I'll give my answer later in the thread.)

STJ
14th May 2009, 16:41
I would. I hope we can get those bums out of office.

John The Outlaw
14th May 2009, 18:40
I don't vote as a matter of principal.

"If voting changed anything, they would make it illegal" - Emma Goldman

apathy maybe
15th May 2009, 10:24
I would. I hope we can get those bums out of office.
Which bums? Aren't all politicians bums?


I don't vote as a matter of principal.

"If voting changed anything, they would make it illegal" - Emma Goldman

I agree with the sentiment. The question was rather though, given the nature of a double dissolution election, would it tempt you to change your mind?

Oh, and considering that neither of you are Australian, I guess you wouldn't be voting anyway.

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My answer, I still wouldn't be voting. I've thought about it since I posted this thread, and, I would rather stand by my principles.

Yazman
15th May 2009, 11:15
Well you have to vote by law, the question is whether you will just scribble over/defile/deliberately mess up your ballot or not (i.e. "not vote").

I wouldn't do it at all. Double dissolution or not, an election is still an election and it won't help our cause.

apathy maybe
15th May 2009, 12:26
Well you have to vote by law, the question is whether you will just scribble over/defile/deliberately mess up your ballot or not (i.e. "not vote").

I wouldn't do it at all. Double dissolution or not, an election is still an election and it won't help our cause.

Well, I don't turn up to vote, and nothing bad has happened to me yet. So yeah.

Yazman
15th May 2009, 14:38
Well, I don't turn up to vote, and nothing bad has happened to me yet. So yeah.

You're supposed to get a fine for it, which is fucked.

But yeah fuck voting.