Reactionary books and movies list

[Oktyabr]

Films and books to avoid,wipe your ass with, and/or ridicule. I'm sure the people from the OI would enjoy viewing this.

So does anyone know of films that contain reactionary or pro-religious/bourgeois messages? I have no idea, cause I don't watch them. Pro-imperialist and religious movies/books work to.

[Dimentio]

Films and books to avoid,wipe your ass with, and/or ridicule. I'm sure the people from the OI would enjoy viewing this.

So does anyone know of films that contain reactionary or pro-religious/bourgeois messages? I have no idea, cause I don't watch them. Pro-imperialist and religious movies/books work to.

Ayn Rand and Terry Goodkind have reactionary messages in their books.

[Kassad]

The Bible.

[Glenn Beck]

kapital because even the name says it Marx was a STATE-CAPITALIST and he was wanted a DICTATORSHIP

:blackA::reda::blackA::reda::blackA::reda::blackA: :reda::blackA::reda::blackA:

:ninja:

[JohnnyC]

Black book of communism is the obvious choice.Also, many Hollywood movies have that "just work hard and you'll get rich no matter what" message in them.

[Revulero]

Disney movies that contain degrading references to non-white races, especially Arabs in current movies and Africans in old movies.

Its surprising that the most reactionary disgusting filth is produced as children's movies, children's books etc. The capitalists want to catch 'em young I guess.

Did it really say that in alladin :confused:. Gosh, I haven't seen that movie since I was a kid. Fuck, I know disney has a fascination with making kids adore monarchies.

[scarletghoul]

Mao The Unknown Story

[Soviet]

1. "Mein Kamp".
2.All written by Solzhenitsyn.

[khad]

1. "Mein Kamp".
2.All written by Solzhenitsyn.
Solzhenitsyn actually managed to alienate a number of Russian dissidents due to his retrograde politics and historical falsifications.

http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2002/2002-July/017469.html


The Guardian (UK) 6 July 2002

Once they were literary comrades, united in mutual admiration and political dissent. But now one has used his new book to deliver a scathing attack on the other. This week, Russian Nobel prize winner, Alexandr Solzhenitsyn, became the subject of a bitter personal attack from a former friend and admirer, fellow countryman and author Vladimir Voinovich.

In a new book, sardonically titled Portrait in a Myth's Setting, Voinovich, once an anti-Soviet activist, attacks the cult of personality that has sprung up around literary giant Solzhenitsyn.

The Nobel prize winner first chronicled the terror of Stalin's gulag, was expelled from the Soviet Union for his work, and provided a relentless and vital criticism of Russia's reforming politicians in the nineties.

Voinovich, 69, who is best known for his book, The Life and Amazing Adventures of Soldier Ivan Chonkin, is unrelentingly personal in his attack on Solzhenitsyn, who will soon be 84, and is infirm.

"He accepts without criticism the qualities and deeds which are attributed to him by public opinion," Voinovich snipes. "And he has accepted the idea that... it is God who moves his hand when he writes."

He continues: "His very variable approach to human rights and other human preoccupations can only be explained by one thing - clear egoism. As a writer he wasn't bad, even excellent at times but notions about his greatness, his genius, his prophetical abilities and moral purity are part of a myth." Voinovich goes on to say that he tried to read one of Solzhenitsyn's novels published in the eighties, "but it was unreadable. It was very dull, with a very heavy text, with a language too ornate and sometimes inarticulate".

Exiled

Both writers were exiled for their work by the Soviet regime, and Voinovich writes how he admired Solzhenitsyn for 13 years when he first read his work. Yet the relationship turned sour, and much of the book is given to his recollection of difficult meetings with Solzhenitsyn. He attacks the writer's vanity when he recalls that, at the height of Solzhenitsyn's fame just before he won the Nobel Prize in 1970, he saw him in new western clothes and a recently grown beard without a moustache. "As I thought later he was trying to adapt his face to western TV screens," he writes. "He later asked women what they felt about this, and they answered that he had a very masculine image."

Voinovich told him then that the new appearance did not suit him and that he resembled a beatnik. "He did not respond but his eyes shone with anger, and I thought he would never forget this phrase."

Solzhenitsyn was persecuted by the state for his writings, which increased his international reputation. Voinovich adds: "An unprecedented noise about his name dragged the attention away from [the persecution of] other not so well-known names. I think that the KGB [benefited from this distraction]."

Voinovich's bitter resentment becomes evident when he refers to a time when Solzhenitsyn asked a friend to advise Voinovich not to seek money from his writing. Voinovich was affronted by the advice. "Being a lout, he does not speak the same way with everybody. Why is he so rude with me? Maybe I have given him a pretext to think he can speak in such a way."
Solzhenitsyn, born to a Cossack family in 1918, served in the war but was thrown into jail in 1945 when the KGB intercepted a letter to a friend in which he criticised Stalin. He served time in labour camps, but was discharged in 1953, and sent into internal exile in the remote town of Berlik. He began to write about his experiences and in 1961 tried to publish his debut manuscript, One Day In The Life Of Ivan Denisovich, an exposure of Stalin's gulag. Under Khruschev's relaxation of censorship, it was published in 1962.

Khruschev was ousted soon after, taking with him the new cultural freedoms. Yet Solzhenitsyn kept writing, sending Cancer Ward - another autobiographical account, of his cancer while in jail - to a New York publisher in 1968. His anti-Soviet stance only increased his stature in the west, and when he published an explicit account of forced labour in Stalin's camps in The Gulag Archipelago in 1973, he was expelled from the USSR.

Critical

Moving to the US he continued to write abroad, and had his Soviet citizenship restored to him in 1990 by Gorbachev. He returned to Moscow in 1994 to a mixed reception. He was fiercely critical of Yeltsin and his opposing politicians.

Some consider Voinovich's book to be more about the writer's opinion of his stature in the world, than a dissection of Solzhenitsyn's. The book also finds time to be critical of another famous Soviet dissident, Andrei Sakharov.

Voinovich held a press conference in Moscow to launch his attack on Thursday. "Any cult of personality is dangerous and the cult of Solzhenitsyn was taking very dangerous shape," he told the Guardian in an interview yesterday. "I see Solzhenitsyn as not a completely honest narrator and commentator of his own destiny and life. His dishonesty consists of believing in the image that both he and the public invented of him. Solzhenitsyn is a rude man. He doesn't support any criticism and affirms in his works that he knows the answer. And people who think they know that answer, when they get power, are extremely dangerous."

[Schrödinger's Cat]

The Bible.

For its time, the Bible was progressive.

[Dimentio]

For its time, the Bible was progressive.

During that time, it was "progressive" to sell your daughter to her rapist, cut off hands of thieves and assemble foreskins as marriage gifts.

[Sean]

I'm sure the people from the OI would enjoy viewing this.That's you, that is.:)
Anything by American pundits/"news" monkeys like Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, and half of the left wing ones too. Oh, and Richard Dawkins, purely because of the cult of new atheism the God Delusion inspired. Good read though.

[Dimentio]

That's you, that is.:)
Anything by American pundits/"news" monkeys like Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, and half of the left wing ones too. Oh, and Richard Dawkins, purely because of the cult of new atheism the God Delusion inspired. Good read though.

What is Richard Dawkins? A libertarian, conservative, liberal or socialist?

[x359594]

The entire oeuvre of Steven Spielberg is reactionary, especially the Indiana Jones movies. Batman, the Dark Knight too. Most contemporary Hollywood movies to the extent that they reproduce capitalist ideology; the same for Hollywood TV shows, especially cop shows.

[New Tet]

What is Richard Dawkins? A libertarian, conservative, liberal or socialist?

What difference does it make. Will knowing "what he is" influence your opinion of his work? Why?

[Pirate Utopian]

The entire oeuvre of Steven Spielberg is reactionary, especially the Indiana Jones movies. Batman, the Dark Knight too. Most contemporary Hollywood movies to the extent that they reproduce capitalist ideology; the same for Hollywood TV shows, especially cop shows.
I love Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Dark Knight.

Indiana Jones combats the nazi's in the Lost Ark!

[brigadista]

any thing "starring " bruce willis
mel gibsons films - the jesus film which reminded me of my fundamentalist catholic education

and the "noble savage" film Apocalypto --

[Dimentio]

What difference does it make. Will knowing "what he is" influence your opinion of his work? Why?

No, I am just curious from where he is coming.

[RHIZOMES]

I can't account for your beef with Orwell (and I won't try), but I can account for my liking of him and his work. Orwell produced very good literature (though I concede that 1984 was drawn largely from Zamyatin's WE). He gave us a literary critique of the transformation of English into a language of corporate propaganda and state manipulation.

The majority of Shakespeare's plots were derived from earlier writers.


The entire oeuvre of Steven Spielberg is reactionary, especially the Indiana Jones movies. Batman, the Dark Knight too. Most contemporary Hollywood movies to the extent that they reproduce capitalist ideology; the same for Hollywood TV shows, especially cop shows.

Dirty Harry was called by Roger Ebert "fascist art".

[Dimentio]

any thing "starring " bruce willis
mel gibsons films - the jesus film which reminded me of my fundamentalist catholic education

and the "noble savage" film Apocalypto --

I don't necessarily think Braveheart or The Patriot are reactionary per definition. Especially Braveheart I think could be viewed as progressive, at least in a medieval sense.

Apocalypto is overestimated as a film, and some of the cruelties of the Mayas are way overestimated, and was rather Aztec. What Gibson do not show though is the crimes committed by the Spaniards, which were far worse than those committed by the local theocracies.

I think that - despite his reactionary beliefs - Clint Eastwood is a good and sensitive director. The Bridges of Madison County is a masterpiece.

I would claim that the most reactionary director we have today is probably Zack Snyder. 300 was an extreme glorification of fascism. Leonidas' Sparta is not depicted as a democracy, but as a military state which practiced eugenics and slave labour on a massive scale. Those aspects are glorified.

Hitler would have loved that movie.

[OneNamedNameLess]

Can we steer this thread back from a discussion on Orwell to the initial question please?

I abhor all of those yankee, glorified war films the most (platoon etc), and cringe at the fact that the other side of the coin is completely ignored. This also includes computer games but that's a different story.

[Revy]

24, the TV series, comes to mind. Premiered in November 2001, in the immediate post-9/11 climate. Builds its theme around a "war on terror" and supports torture.

[fatpanda]

Most Actionflicks in general are very reactionary
That Schwarzenegger,Van Damme,Stallone kind of jingoist bullshit.

[Revy]

Not Without My Daughter. It's about an American woman who marries an Iranian Muslim man, and gets "trapped" in Iran. The ordinary Muslims in the movie are all portrayed as evil, that's what I remember.

[Cumannach]

I think all the movies with The President are appalling, - like the one with Harrison Ford for example, but there's hudreds of them.

[Pirate Utopian]

Can we hear it for good reactionary movies?
Red Dawn, Dirty Harry and all the sequals and Triumph of the Will.

[Killfacer]

I can't account for your beef with Orwell (and I won't try), but I can account for my liking of him and his work. Orwell produced very good literature (though I concede that 1984 was drawn largely from Zamyatin's WE). He gave us a literary critique of the transformation of English into a language of corporate propaganda and state manipulation.

.

The only way in which 1984 is "drawn" from we is that they're the same genre. According to you, any dystopian fiction is actually just copied from Zamyatin.

Shall we also say that Da Vinci's art is actually just drawn from caveman paintings?

Anyone who has read We will see the billions of differences between the books. The only comparable thing is that they're both works of dystopian fiction.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Saving Private Ryan, Pearl Harbor, Hamburger Hill, James Bond and any other spy flick.

The Sands of Iwojima (nd pretty much any John Wayne movie)

The Patriot (Mel Gibson)

Looney Toons. (bugs bunny nips the nips) and general african american stereotypes in cartoons like tom and jerry.

I also came to the conclusion that a show i watched as a kid called "Ed, Edd, and Eddy" was a show glorifying capitalism because the 3 would scam (they would actually say SCAM) other kids out of their money with bad ideas all to get jawbreakers. making money idolized and showing a disregard for fellow mans welfare in place of personal gains.

[Killfacer]

Saving Private Ryan,




Now that is a fucking great film.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Now that is a fucking great film.

i do agree, it is a damn good film. but it is still a glorification of WWII. And it is nice to see nutzis get fucked up

[Revy]

"Richie Rich"
The rich kid is presented as the hero, right?

[S.O.I]

american dad

[Killfacer]

american dad

is occasionally funny but not as good as family guy.

[Revy]

american dad

I disagree....

[brigadista]

i do agree, it is a damn good film. but it is still a glorification of WWII. And it is nice to see nutzis get fucked up

i have to disagree and i was told by one who was there - it is a work of pure fiction

[Dimentio]

Saving Private Ryan is not particularily reactionary, if you do not belong to that group which think that war per definition is reactionary. Rather, the movie's message is about moral sacrifice which is universal and not isolated to the USA. It is important to care for the comrades, no matter what.

As for Steven Spielberg, I find that he is an interesting character.

He is very Pro-American, almost to the extent of an official glorifier of the United States. He is even more Pro-Israeli, glorifying Israel in all possible directions. Yet, he is doing that out of a perceived opposition against fascism. I think Spielberg's main agenda is that he wants to educate people about the horrors of fascism while legitimising Israel (which itself has some fascist tendencies).

[hugsandmarxism]

Birth of a Nation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_of_a_nation)

The epic fail reactionary movie of all time.

I've seen some of it. It's astoundingly awful in every way.

Edit: I would have thought this would have been at the top of the list... it certainly was on the tip of my tongue when I thought "reactionary movie." I mean, come on, Klu Klux Kan ghouls portrayed as "saviors" to the "purity of white women" against black people?!?! And people are putting a WWII flick and a Seth McFarlen show before this?!?! Seriously.

[Pirate Utopian]

It isnt really awful cinematically, atleast at the time.

Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed is a creationist piece of crap.
It argues that Darwin and his theory of evolution led to the holocaust and other such bullshit.

[Killfacer]

Birth of a Nation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_of_a_nation)

The epic fail reactionary movie of all time.

I've seen some of it. It's astoundingly awful in every way.

Edit: I would have thought this would have been at the top of the list... it certainly was on the tip of my tongue when I thought "reactionary movie." I mean, come on, Klu Klux Kan ghouls portrayed as "saviors" to the "purity of white women" against black people?!?! And people are putting a WWII flick and a Seth McFarlen show before this?!?! Seriously.

That's definatly unfair. As a film of it's time it was seriously cutting edge. It had a big bugdet and honestly it's very nicely filmed.

The message is rightwing to the core, but the cinamatography is actually top notch.

The same goes for triumph of the will. It may seem outdated by our standards but it was hugely successful at the time and is a master piece in propaganda.

[hugsandmarxism]

Like I give a fuck about the cinematography. Ok, so it was a "cutting edge" piece of reactionary shit. Still should be up at the top.

[anarko-syndikalist]

most films from hollywood

[Angry Young Man]

I feel that this is the best place to say that I feel fucking betrayed by Carol Ann Duffy. I used to think you were cool. You sold me out, man!

[brigadista]

I don't necessarily think Braveheart or The Patriot are reactionary per definition. Especially Braveheart I think could be viewed as progressive, at least in a medieval sense.

Apocalypto is overestimated as a film, and some of the cruelties of the Mayas are way overestimated, and was rather Aztec. What Gibson do not show though is the crimes committed by the Spaniards, which were far worse than those committed by the local theocracies.

I think that - despite his reactionary beliefs - Clint Eastwood is a good and sensitive director. The Bridges of Madison County is a masterpiece.

I would claim that the most reactionary director we have today is probably Zack Snyder. 300 was an extreme glorification of fascism. Leonidas' Sparta is not depicted as a democracy, but as a military state which practiced eugenics and slave labour on a massive scale. Those aspects are glorified.

Hitler would have loved that movie.


braveheart is historically inaccurate and plays to the worst kind of nationalism - a one dimensional portrayal of a desperate time in Scottish history a trivial and horrible film

the patriot well i cannot comment i dont know anything about that period of american history

apocalypto sinister and i agree with your comments

i also agree with your comments on the bridges of madison county but would add that the unforgiven is a great film and will go down as a classic through time

as for 300
a lot of money spent on spray tan "contouring" as well as completely fascist portrayal of the persian empire as 21st century american adversaries in TWAT..an insult and very stupid and again trivial interpretation of ancient history.. banal in a word

[Rusty Shackleford]

The patrior and Braveheart are both reactionary in that they are about the "good ol days of kicking british ass" i guess you could say. The patriot is a tool that makes the US seem like the best guys in the world. which at the time, i think they were on the cutting edge somewhat but its like a movie made for the constitution party and is like pr0n to the tea baggers.

[khad]

as for 300
a lot of money spent on spray tan "contouring" as well as completely fascist portrayal of the persian empire as 21st century american adversaries in TWAT..an insult and very stupid and again trivial interpretation of ancient history.. banal in a word
Anything written by Frank Miller
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Terror,_Batman!


"Holy Terror, Batman!" is a 122-page graphic novel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_novel) by Frank Miller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Miller_%28comics%29), with an unconfirmed release date. The plot revolves around Batman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman) defending Gotham City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotham_City) from an attack by the Islamist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamist) terrorist group Al-Qaeda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda). According to Miller, the comic is a "piece of propaganda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda)" in which Batman "kicks Al-Qaeda's ass."[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Terror,_Batman%21#cite_note-0) The series has been described as "Batman vs. Al Qaeda".[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Terror,_Batman%21#cite_note-RottenTomatoes-1)

[/URL] In August 2006, fellow writer [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Morrison"]Grant Morrison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Terror,_Batman%21#cite_note-4) criticized the idea, saying that "cheering on a fictional character battling fictionalized terrorists seems like a decadent indulgence" and suggested that Miller join the army and actually fight.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Terror,_Batman%21#cite_note-5) Miller is known to have responded by suggesting that Morrison 'go fuck himself'.

[fatpanda]

The Metal Gear Solid series actually.
Russians are considered the bad guys while americans the good guys :rolleyes:
oh yeah and the new metal gear solid depicts middle easterners as the new "villains"
so cliche:rolleyes::thumbdown:

[hugsandmarxism]

The Metal Gear Solid series actually.
Russians are considered the bad guys while americans the good guys :rolleyes:
oh yeah and the new metal gear solid depicts middle easterners as the new "villains"
so cliche:rolleyes::thumbdown:

In the new one, you fight along side the middle eastern resistance fighters, against a company of private contractors.

And by the way, the Russian characters in MGS are the coolest. Ocelot is a former Spetznaz, and Olga Gerlukovich becomes the heroine in MGS2. And, in Portable OPS, you recruit Russian soldiers to your side and can play as them.

Kojima's games are hardly pro-capitalist or anti-communist. As both a communist and MGS fan, I say, play the games before you judge them.

[Verix]

while not a book or movie this is pretty fucked up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkXTd9v56LQ

[Girl A]

Anthem by Ayn Rand comes to mind. :thumbdown:

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

All of Hegel's works, and most of the items in this list:

http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=1172

[fatpanda]

In the new one, you fight along side the middle eastern resistance fighters, against a company of private contractors.

And by the way, the Russian characters in MGS are the coolest. Ocelot is a former Spetznaz, and Olga Gerlukovich becomes the heroine in MGS2. And, in Portable OPS, you recruit Russian soldiers to your side and can play as them.

Kojima's games are hardly pro-capitalist or anti-communist. As both a communist and MGS fan, I say, play the games before you judge them.

Hmm Then whats with Olgas father?

But in general in most games you have to play Americans fighting against Russians,Arabs,Vietnamese,Chinese and stuff!
Racist,jingoist bullshit!
Even in games that werent developed in the US!
Why is that?
fucking pisses me off
There should be a game where you can switch the sides :trotski:

[Bitter Ashes]

It's probably been mentioned already, but Red Dawn.
"Lookout kids! There's a bunch of dirty commies paratrooping in to shoot your teachers! You better take these shotguns and head to the hill to go ambush some damn reds!" etc etc

[Bitter Ashes]

Hmm Then whats with Olgas father?

But in general in most games you have to play Americans fighting against Russians,Arabs,Vietnamese,Chinese and stuff!
Racist,jingoist bullshit!
Even in games that werent developed in the US!
Why is that?
fucking pisses me off
There should be a game where you can switch the sides :trotski:
Like Command and Conquer Generals? All hail the GLA! ^^

[Pirate Utopian]

It's probably been mentioned already, but Red Dawn.
"Lookout kids! There's a bunch of dirty commies paratrooping in to shoot your teachers! You better take these shotguns and head to the hill to go ambush some damn reds!" etc etc
I mentioned it.

I do like Red Dawn in a turn-your-mind-off-and-just-enjoy sorta way.

[rednordman]

Don't feed the Stalinist troll.To be fair on the people who have doubts about him, they do sort of have legit points. I always remember reading 'keep the aspidastra flying' and being a little bit shocked by some of the ways that he brought in the socialism question, around the enviroment of poverty.

[Angry Young Man]

The Metal Gear Solid series actually.
Russians are considered the bad guys while americans the good guys :rolleyes:
oh yeah and the new metal gear solid depicts middle easterners as the new "villains"
so cliche:rolleyes::thumbdown:


What do you mean aside from the fact that the first game's all about US govt corruption, all are consistently anti-nuclear, anti-war and America is secretly ruled over by a clique? Yea, these are totally reactionary sentiments. Most videogames are a bit reactionary, but MGS is not. Resident Evil 4 is a bit reactionary IMO

[Angry Young Man]

Hmm Then whats with Olgas father?

Perhaps you might want to watch the end tanker scene again: the one where the American officer is talking about the key to maintaining dominant world status, and Gurlukovich says 'Land, friends, dignity: all sold to the highest bidder - the USA'

Think before you speak, mush.

[fatpanda]

yes but he is antiamerican and is a villain in the game
and then what is with MGS3:snake eater?

[Angry Young Man]

So is Snake Bill O'Reilley's boy?

[PRC-UTE]

I'm surprised "Hollywood" as a category was mentioned so many times. Actually a surprisingly large number of hollywood films have progressive messages or themes.

[Angry Young Man]

Well, there was the whole thing about George Clooney's acceptance speech where Hollywood is ahead on social issues. Well... Philadelphia came in 1993, 12 years after AIDS is diagnosed. Everyone was amazed when Brokeback mountain came out in 2005 because there had never been a Hollywood film about gay romance. They'd made them in other countries. There's a really good British film from either 1995 1997. Can't remember the title, but it came before BBM by about 10 years.

[Angry Young Man]

Beautiful Thing. Just found it after much wiki'ing. Great film.

[rednordman]

I'm surprised "Hollywood" as a category was mentioned so many times. Actually a surprisingly large number of hollywood films have progressive messages or themes.Totally agree, I could swear blind how alot of hollywood movies have a more progressive message, especially just after Reagen. I wonder why?

[Das war einmal]

Enemy at the gates

[Zurdito]

This thread is quite strange. Why would I "wipe my ass" with a book or movie jsut because it is reactioanry?

This reminds me of a stalinist approach to art, that it should serve poltical interests.

My opinion is that good art describes a moment well, and great art is art that captures the contradictions of its time. Shakespeare's work is intended with a reactionary message, and its aim is to oppose all the forces for change and subversion in Elizabethan society. But it still captures the conflicts of the time in an amazing way and is beautifully written. Other great artists like Borges, Kafka, - well too many to name - were also reactionaries.

Oh yeah and Saving Private Ryan is a great example of how to give a message - shame it's a reactionary one, but nonetheless, as art, I like it.

I'm gonna go listen to some Wagner now, bye. :p

[Angry Young Man]

While I agree with you to a limited degree, our opinions will in part dictate our tastes. Satire is probably the best form of appreciation via ideology, because you will call a satirist a genius because you agree with him. I imagine that in literature and cinema, it's more subtle - especially in literature. But if you take Shelley and Wordsworth as an example, I say that Shelley was both a better poet in a purely aesthetic way and in a political way. The only advantage Wordsworth has is that he's more populist and less elitist.

[Das war einmal]

The early Tin-tin comics by Herge. The first two are influenced by the religious fascist teacher of Herge, who supported Hitler and Mussolini. In the first album, Tin-tin (for dutch: kuifje) in the land of the Soviets, there is straight and pure anticommunist propaganda, Herge later admidded he never knew anything about the Soviet Union at all (this album was written in 1928). Tin-tin in Africa portrays blacks as people who need the guiding hand of the Europeans or they dont get anything done. Tin-tin in America is slightly racist, as native Americans are portrayed as wild men, but it also portrays how they are moved by force by the oil company. This album I still find funny nonetheless.

A Congolese student in Belgium demanded that Tin-tin in Africa should be removed from the shells but a anti-racism commission warned against an overkill of political-correctness

Note: Herge also pointed out he never knew anything about Africa before either and stated that this was nearly a look of the common Belgian man on Africa that day (this album was made in the 30's), later albums (I have not read many) are not confirmed to be reactionary, at least not racist and far less political. He received criticism and was visited by a Gestapo officer when he wrote 'the cigars of the pharaoh' (if I remember it right) in which the badguy is named Mustler, a combination of Mussolini and Hitler

[rednordman]

For anyone not enamoured with the Orwell Myth, I would recommend Patai's The Orwell Mystique: A Study in Male Ideology

http://books.google.com/books?id=g-gyr7ddFYUC&pg=PA277&lpg=PA277&dq=orwell+mystique+review&source=bl&ots=aSQqPfwZ4S&sig=l5fCXXoTHZ-_DnEzr7FwVnLqO2c&hl=en&ei=kykKSq2qIpmuMov2hd0L&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5#PPP12,M1

I still find it astounding that leftwing people continue to use contorted logic to justify Orwell as a socialist writer when he produced no major socialist work. In fact, he even took cheap shots at socialism in books not even ostensibly about socialism, such as The Road to Wigan Pier.Excuse my ignourance, but how did he mock socialism in road to wigan pier? (not that I disagree with you, just that i havent read the book yet).

[Bilan]

All of Hegel's works, and most of the items in this list:

http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=1172

Don't troll.

[Zurdito]

Excuse my ignourance, but how did he mock socialism in road to wigan pier? (not that I disagree with you, just that i havent read the book yet).

I've read it, and he didn't. he states the need for socialism various times, in fact. not soon after he would go to fight for socialism in Spain - maybe khad thinks he did so for a joke.:rolleyes:

[khad]

I've read it, and he didn't. he states the need for socialism various times, in fact. not soon after he would go to fight for socialism in Spain - maybe khad thinks he did so for a joke.:rolleyes:
Yep, he does say that "socialism" is good. Now if only socialists could disown vegetarians ("food cranks"), feminists ("birth control fanatics"), queers ("sandals and the pistachio-coloured shirts") and other obviously inferior species of humans and man up to be a manly rapist like him, it could actually work! :rolleyes:

[berlitz23]

I disagree entirely with the whole premise and purpose of the OP I don't understand why anyone should purely disregard or malign a piece of text solely on the basis it is not symmetrical with your ideological preferences. In fact, if you were a true revolutionary you would glean knowledge from a wide arrange of books, cinema, music or whatever medium. Multiple narratives and strings of thought helps you build a richer and greater idea of what you are diligently attempting to resist, but simply following a reductionistic and tunnel visioned perspective on arts and literature is authoritarian in nature. I know i might be charged as being bourgeois, but reading a cornucopia of perspectives shows the true nature of the world, there is no definitive absolute perspective on the world.

"In so far as the word “knowledge” has any meaning, the world is knowable; but it is interpretable otherwise, it has no meaning behind it, but countless meanings.—“Perspectivism.”
It is our needs that interpret the world; our drives and their For and Against.[emphasis added] Every drive is a kind of lust to rule; each one has its perspective that it would like to compel all the other drives to accept as a norm."

[Qayin]

Black hawk down.

I hate that movie so much

[MarxSchmarx]

Memin Pinguin

[Killfacer]

Black hawk down.

I hate that movie so much

I thought it was a pretty good film. The combat was all pretty slickly filmed and the acting wasn't too awful.