i think courtney killed kurt - things on the death

[captain anarchy]

i think courtney killed kurt be cause this one investigator guy said there is no evidance torward suicide it all is torward murder. like kurt's finger prints were not on the gun and the gun was fully loaded. part of the suicide letter was not in kurt's hand writing. the letter was actually a letter to his fans stating he is quiting the music buissness. courtney was also facing a divorce. kurt had enough heroine in his system that he could not lift a gun. i think courtney and the house maid did it be cause she didn't want to give him up and to continue milking his stuff for all it's worth.

[ComradeJunichi]

...

Courtney and the housemaid??

Anyway, I don't think Kurt killed himself. Like you said in the investigation, many things lead to a murder. If you watch Kurt and Courtney the movie it states lots of things.

Look at Courtney now, all rich and famous - she used Kurt from the start.

Suicide letter, yes the bottom bit was not Kurt's writing. There were no fingerprints on the gun. Kurt had so much heroine in him that it would be almost impossible to even lift the gun, let alone point it to his head and pull the trigger.

LOTS and LOTS of evidence, can't even name it all.

[man in the red suit]

I am sooo tired of this shit.

Kurt=depressed

if Courtney was a suspect, the police would have done an extremely detailed investigation on it.

I have heard all of these and they are very silly:

too much smack to shoot the gun

no fingerprints on the gun

heroine needle was put back into the case

etc etc

HE KILLED HIMSELF WITH A 20 GAGE. GET OVER IT.

don't tell me some nonsense like space martians trying to cover up the conspiracy by paying off the police chief in charge of the investigation to keep it a secret because Courtney is actually a top martian agent of the martian secret service.

You saw how sad the poor woman was when Kurt died.

And dont tell me she faked. That is plain ridiculous.

She is a ***** but she's not a ***** OF DOOM TERROR MIGHT.

really......is that what you guys think.

Courtney's only crime was being a ***** and being fugly.

yeah yeah, the bottom of the suicide note wasn't in his handwriting. How do you know that? were you there. Have you even looked at the note? I don't see any difference between the top of the note and the bottom.

Have you even heard any Nirvana songs.

"look on the bright side is suicide"

even in the unlikely case that it was murder, he would of killed himself anyway.

This guy bought the gun he shot himself with a week before. I don't think he was going hunting although maqybe it is just me.

(Edited by man in the red suit at 3:49 am on Nov. 8, 2002)

[canikickit]

Yeah, this struck me as bullshit also.

I figured it was pretty much an established fact that he was as depressed as hell, and everyone accepted that it was suicide.

"I hate myself and I want to die"

[man in the red suit]

Quote: from canikickit on 4:45 am on Nov. 8, 2002
Yeah, this struck me as bullshit also.

I figured it was pretty much an established fact that he was as depressed as hell, and everyone accepted that it was suicide.

"I hate myself and I want to die"


thank you!!

[ComradeJunichi]

"even in the unlikely case that it was murder, he would of killed himself anyway."

So, he was led to kill himself. Now Courtney has the stage.

[munkey soup]

bah!

Courtney is evil, but not that evil.

[Cobra]

Courtney did kill Kurt. By being married to that *****, he got so depressed that he decided that life isn't worth living. Anyone married to Courtney would want to shoot themself.

[Zippy]

Nick Broomfield made that film to spark hysteria, not to find answers.

<She is a *****>

Isn't that what punk rock is all about? :)

Zippy.

[Conghaileach]

For fuck sake, why did this topic have to be started? I was perfectly happy with my own little oversimplification that he was a drug addict who shot himslf in the head. Now people are trying to challenge this.

Pft.

[Wash Me]

he's dead.

[mcleodstickle]

Quote: from Wash Me on 6:50 pm on Nov. 8, 2002
he's dead.

nice

yea, hes dead why is this being brought up again.... we all know it anwyay. No finger prints suicide note... agian and again and again, evryone hates courtney.

This aint no shocking sutff, let it go

[guerrillaradio]

Quote: from captain anarchy on 12:52 am on Nov. 8, 2002
i think courtney killed kurt be cause this one investigator guy said there is no evidance torward suicide it all is torward murder. like kurt's finger prints were not on the gun and the gun was fully loaded. part of the suicide letter was not in kurt's hand writing. the letter was actually a letter to his fans stating he is quiting the music buissness. courtney was also facing a divorce. kurt had enough heroine in his system that he could not lift a gun. i think courtney and the house maid did it be cause she didn't want to give him up and to continue milking his stuff for all it's worth.


Is this what the nu-anarchist looks like?? Illiterate, ungrammatical, unjustified. Christ...

[captain anarchy]

it is not bull shit haven't you heard of acting and lieing to cover your ass. that is what courtney did. she killed kurt and acted all upset and lied to the people to get the benifits. if kurt divorced her like he was going to she gets no benifits if he dies she gets alot of benifits just look at how she teyed to get the money to the unreleased stuff she is a greedy money hungry fucking *****.

[Tkinter1]

He had threatend suicide before he actually did it. Also he was in out of depression clinics. The unplugged CD is pretty depressing(but still good) and not long after he wrote that he killed himself. The question you have to ask yourself is, which is the more logical answer. A. Courtney and the maid were in it together, and shot kurt in the face and wrote a suicide not for him knowing it would be in their own handwriting, putting needles back in their appropriate cases, and not put kurts finger prints on the gun. Or B. he was depressed, upset, had a serious stomach problem, and wanted to die.

[canikickit]

He had threatend suicide before he actually did it. Also he was in out of depression clinics. The unplugged CD is pretty depressing(but still good) and not long after he wrote that he killed himself

What are you doing here man?

[Tkinter1]

Sorry, i saw it on the front page of the site. I couldn't help myself. It has nothing to do with Socialism or Capitalism so i didn't think it mattered.

[canikickit]

Well in my opinion, it doesn't matter a damn. I just thought it was funny.

[captain anarchy]

they are trying to make out the words he mumbled at the begining of the song you know you're right to see if it has any stuff said leading to the death. if you guys want to see where i got my info go to yahoo.com and under search type in kurt cobain then go to the clicky one that says cobain murder investgation and click it it's real interesting. and i don't give a fuck about my grammar or stupid shit i say such as clicky part and shit like that.

[canikickit]

, .

The first ones are free. Then I'm going to jack up the price. You'll have to look elsewhere for a capital letter salesman.

(Edited by canikickit at 3:30 am on Nov. 10, 2002)


(Edited by canikickit at 3:33 am on Nov. 10, 2002)

[Mazdak]

OK... this captain anarchy guy finally figured us out. I have a confession... I killed Kurt. Courtney paid me. I used to get them their "medicine." I just got really pissed that day and..... yeah. It was me. I have been hiding but Captain anarchy's genius managed to force this confession out of me :rollseyes:

"Look on the bright side is suicide" HAHA!!
Excellent, the first thing that attracted me the In Utero was this quote!

[I Bow 4 Che]

LOL


YOU'RE ALL WRONG! It was Professor Plum in the dining room with the candle stick.

[man in the red suit]

Quote: from I Bow 4 Che on 2:05 am on Feb. 13, 2003
LOL


YOU'RE ALL WRONG! It was Professor Plum in the dining room with the candle stick.

lol

I think I already *****ed in here about how fucking stupid I think this thread is. But in case I didn't

Kurt killed himself end of story. Those are my "pearls of wisdom" for today as what's his name would put it.

[American Kid]

The Feds killed Kurdt.

-AK

[man in the red suit]

Quote: from American Kid on 2:34 am on Feb. 13, 2003
The Feds killed Kurdt.

-AK

indeed. the feds kill everyone. Kurt cobain, Stanley Kubrick,......Bob Marley......etc etc

[American Kid]

Goddamnit don't say Kubrick. That would break my heart.

This is balderdash. The Feds didn't kill him. He was just a big fat guy who died like big fat guys do: in his sleep with his arteries clogged with gravy.

fin,
-AK

[man in the red suit]

Quote: from American Kid on 4:26 am on Feb. 13, 2003
Goddamnit don't say Kubrick. That would break my heart.

This is balderdash. The Feds didn't kill him. He was just a big fat guy who died like big fat guys do: in his sleep with his arteries clogged with gravy.

fin,
-AK

lol...I know. I just said that to get your attention. I know You're into movies as am I. Just thought I would throw out the name of a great director to catch your eye.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Someone mentioned the letter, have any of you actually seen the letter? I have. It's clearly written in different states of mind, if not by different people, because the handwriting between the two parts varies quite obviously. I've seen interviews with handwriting experts who confirm
this.

http://www.btinternet.com/~l.o.j/suicide.htm


And the full text, so you see how only the last few lines indicate anything except the breaking up of the band, which was widely rumoured:

http://www.link2rock.net/kurtnote.html

Also, the first part is a long diatribe about his life in general, and doesn't mention death, while the second part is basically "So I am gonna kill myself btw, see ya"

I'm not saying it was murder, I'm just saying the absolute weirdness of the letter is probably how this thing got started. There's is probably some explanation, but it doesn't really matter any more because there is more myth than fact flying around about it now. The documentary was pretty good though.....

--- G.

[Lefty]

It was the freemasons.

[man in the red suit]

Quote: from Lefty on 6:22 am on Feb. 16, 2003
It was the freemasons.

the who now?

[Dhul Fiqar]

You've never heard of the Freemasons?! You know... the famous "secret society"??

--- G.

[suffianr]

I'm surprised no one's mentioned the Iraqis.

[man in the red suit]

Quote: from Dhul Fiqar on 12:22 pm on Feb. 16, 2003
You've never heard of the Freemasons?! You know... the famous "secret society"??

--- G.


ooooooohhhh... sorry I wasn't thinking

[American Kid]

lol....the freemasons

*high-fives Evan*

-Mdj

[Rock1Renegade3]

Courtney DID kill Kurt......I was watchin a Documentary on Kurt and the guy interviewed another Musician that said that courtney wanted to pay him $500,000 (i think)
to kill him. This guy didn't do it, but later on in the film the guy (interviewer) said that the musician got ran over by a train.......was this just a act of god?? I think not...

[Eastside Revolt]

Quote: from Dhul Fiqar on 2:46 pm on Feb. 15, 2003
Someone mentioned the letter, have any of you actually seen the letter? I have. It's clearly written in different states of mind, if not by different people, because the handwriting between the two parts varies quite obviously. I've seen interviews with handwriting experts who confirm
this.

http://www.btinternet.com/~l.o.j/suicide.htm


And the full text, so you see how only the last few lines indicate anything except the breaking up of the band, which was widely rumoured:

http://www.link2rock.net/kurtnote.html

Also, the first part is a long diatribe about his life in general, and doesn't mention death, while the second part is basically "So I am gonna kill myself btw, see ya"

I'm not saying it was murder, I'm just saying the absolute weirdness of the letter is probably how this thing got started. There's is probably some explanation, but it doesn't really matter any more because there is more myth than fact flying around about it now. The documentary was pretty good though.....

--- G.




When you're writing a suicide note, you don't stop to think "does what I'm writing make sense?" especially if you're all fucked on downers.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Rock1: You saw "Kurt and Courtney" which is a fine documentary in many ways. The creep who died is called El Duche

redcanada: The letter makes little sense, but you can clearly see the problem with it. The first part does not mention suicide, then a completely different pen and handwriting style suddenly tacks on the bit about actually committing suicide.

In any case, we'll never know.

--- G.

[Blindrock]

Courtney is a ***** user. She used kurt for everything, she was never in the spotlight til after the death. I do believe she killed him because the suicide not sounded dumb and forced. But i guess i will find out. As well, I am tired of this going on, because he is dead, and there is nothing you can do about it now.

[captain anarchy]

go to yahoo and type in kurt cobain. then go to where it says cobain mureder investigation or something along those lines then click on it read the tom grant investigation it will say alot of stuff. thats where i got most of this.

[hXcPetey]

to captian anarchy:
adam youre back! I missed you man.
paz, amor y unidad
-petey

[Urban Rubble]

I consider myself a skeptical person in most cases, with that said I've studied all the evidence and come to the conclusion that I think there probably was foul play. I'm not going to enter the debate, I just want to the "The man in the read suit" that by writing it off as false so quickly and without thought you are just as bad as the kids who can't let Kurt go and automatically assume he was murdered.

[hazard]

cc only killed kc indirectly, if at all.

courtney rocks though -

well what do ya do, WITH A REVOLUTION?!!!

[dopediana]

kubrick.............man, "lolita" was one twisted movie..............kubrick was nearly as disturbing as orson welles....

[hazard]

kubrick was killed like the director played by dustin hoffman in wag the dog was killed. wasn't he?

[dopediana]

beats the shit out of me. how was dustin hoffman's character killed? i never saw that movie...

[hazard]

yeah, he was paid to make fake news footage of a war but wanted to take credit for it so he was killed. very good movie. you'll find it in the "comdey" section. I was looking for it under documentaries.

[dopediana]

really? wow...

well, i don't think that was how stanley kubrick was killed. i looked it up on google after you posted about it but it was a half-ass search. very half-ass. all i know is that he died before finishing "eyes wide shut"

[hazard]

yeah, really.

I don't know either. one can only hope.

[Dhul Fiqar]

LOL, why not tell her how the Crying Game ends, too!?

I mean, he is killed in the very last scene, that's a huge spoiler to be giving ;)

--- G.

[dopediana]

it is only natural for hazard to assume that i am all-knowing. however wrong an assumption it is... j/k.

so how does crying game end anyway?

[hazard]

yeah but his death was so understated, it really had nothing to do with the movie or its plot. it was done like that to give the impression that it happens so frequently that it really makes no difference. the cattle herd of america would watch that movie and laugh at it, but never understand that it presents a serious message.

crying game? I never even saw that movie and I know what happens. won't "spoil" it anyway, although it is already spoiled at default.

[Kurt is a god]

arggh! Im am getting pissed off with all this shit, kurt defenitly didnt kill himself, Yes, he was in a state of depression, he wanted to get a divorce with the ugly whore courtney, and she knew it too, so she was pissed off too, she used him for his money and his fame, just so she could get started, I mean COME ON GUYS! The gun had no fingerprints on it, someone had to wipe it! Secondly, Kurt injected heroine in himself 3 times, with would make it practically IMPOSSIBLE to shoot himself, Next, The "suicide note" that he wrote was actually a retirement note that he had wrote to his fans, the bottom parts were FORGED! GET IT THROUGH YOUR SKULLS! Also, Kurt talked about the future a lot! Suicidal people dont talk about the future the way he did! Next, they investigated after and they found out that he had a struggle trying to get away from the person that was going to kill him, And COURTNEY (UGLY WHORE) used to party with the police officer that was investigating this crime scene, he probably made sure that she wasnt even put into this, and that it was a suicide. And god, look how fake she was acting at that reading, Oh this note isnt for you guys...ohhh I am a big slutty whore who killed my husband, a gold hearted nice guy, just for the money and the fame and so people will feel bad for me!..Ugghhh...AND how abou the part where in her band "Hole" the drummer said she was going to quit, and courtney got mad at her, the NEXT day the drummer was found dead in her bathroom, because of an overdose of heroine...hmmm sound suspicious??? I think soo, Oh my god, there is soo much more evidence, just try a little harder to look at things the way they are, not the way you want to beleive them to be! I love Kurt and I always will, he did NOT deserve to die

-Sarah O'Driscoll

[truthaddict11]

i think it is stupid to get hung up on conspiracy theories like this. I still believe Kurt Cobain alone blew his brains out. as much as an ASS Courtney Love is I dont think she had a part in his death. Next thing people will be making theories on the death of Lane of Alice in Chains

[Soul Rebel]

Quote: from Cobra on 6:10 am on Nov. 8, 2002
Courtney did kill Kurt. By being married to that *****, he got so depressed that he decided that life isn't worth living. Anyone married to Courtney would want to shoot themself.


the guy was depressed since childhood- courtney did not bring it on. his stomach pains and family life and the world around him sucked and caused him to feel the way he did.

[canikickit]

Kurt was killed in a boating accident.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Kurt Cobain was killed with a candlestick in the conservatory, by Professor Plum.

--- G.