legal drugs, good or bad?

[Verix]

if a america legalizes drugs, would it be good or bad? on one hand throwing people in jail for smoking pot is bullshit, but the drug industry is one of the few products not controlled by corporations in fact the main cocain industry in columbia right now is controlled by marxist rebels...

P.S. im not sure were this topic goes, also im talking about the legality of drugs not advocating there use so please dont ban me.

[bcbm]

I think you have a rather flowery view of the people who run the illegal drug industry.

[piet11111]

at least it would decriminalize the use of drugs setting thousands of working class people free and that alone would be enough reason to support this.

[Eva]

In capitalist America? bad. The drug trade would be taken out of the hands illegal groups and instead done through licensed distributors. It wouldn't necessarily lead to less people being put in jail.

[Il Medico]

at least it would decriminalize the use of drugs setting thousands of working class people free and that alone would be enough reason to support this.
I second that thought.

[black magick hustla]

if a america legalizes drugs, would it be good or bad? on one hand throwing people in jail for smoking pot is bullshit, but the drug industry is one of the few products not controlled by corporations in fact the main cocain industry in columbia right now is controlled by marxist rebels...

P.S. im not sure were this topic goes, also im talking about the legality of drugs not advocating there use so please dont ban me.

You are really naive. I would not mind seeing the fucking drug bosses up against the wall with all the other vermin of society. They are awful and they are if anything, an expression of decomposing capitalism and the increasing brutalization of the capitalists.

[just another alias]

They are awful and they are if anything, an expression of decomposing capitalism and the increasing brutalization of the capitalists.

never thought of it that way
i support its decriminalization but if it was legal it would just become another capitalist corporation

[Jazzratt]

Drug cartels aren't that much worse than capitalist drug industries but they are still worse. They represent the very worst capitalism has to offer (slavery in drug plantations, gang kilings and disregard for drug users). The whole thing would be better (not ideal, but better) if organised through legal means. I do not endorse the legal druglords but at least, from a practical standpoint, they are easier to oppose.

A practical example of the difference between legal and illegal drugs imagine how a strike at a farm growing barley for beer would go as opposed to one at a farm for opium.

[STJ]

I think its a good idea.Its about time.

[Il Medico]

I think we should legalize it. Stop them from throwing working class people in jail because they use drugs. They will sell it to us anyways. A criminal is just a really good capitalist after all!:lol:

[TréGuevara]

I think we should legalize simply on the basis of what the drug wars are doing to countries like Mexico and Afghanistan. It's ridiculous. Juarez is an hours, maybe less, drive from El Paso, Tejas, and there is a higher murder per capita rate than Baghdad. I say, legalize, but people seem to think you mean pardoning those involved in the cartels. Fuck that. I'll shoot them myself for what they've done to innocent people in what I call the motherland and everywhere else.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I believe that legalization of banned substances would completely take the unsavory element out of production, transport, and distribution.

Budweiser is still a corporation, but it is managed, taxed, and overseen by the government, as opposed to the complete opposite being true of Al Capone's organization, for example. When you purchase a Bud Light, you are getting a product that is, down to a small level, the exact same as every other one. The same could not be said during prohibition, when the product was often made by amateurs at home who had no legal offices looking over them.

Most overdoses occur because the victim does not know the potency or side-products used in their drug of choice due to its illegal nature. Though it is true people still OD on oxycontin, for example, the numbers of that, and all other banned substances, are miniscule compared to the amount of deaths from alcohol poisoning.

[Glenn Beck]

if a america legalizes drugs, would it be good or bad? on one hand throwing people in jail for smoking pot is bullshit, but the drug industry is one of the few products not controlled by corporations in fact the main cocain industry in columbia right now is controlled by marxist rebels...

P.S. im not sure were this topic goes, also im talking about the legality of drugs not advocating there use so please dont ban me.

The cocaine industry in Colombia isn't controlled by FARC, it's already there and bigger than them and they participate in it to survive and it certainly distorts their activities. Most drug trafficking is done by criminal cartels that are no less capitalist than Wal-Mart or Monsanto, they just happen to be underground and are some of the most brutal enterprises around. The similarities of a drug operation to a major monopolistic corporation like McDonalds from the micro to the macro scale and across the entire supply chain would amaze you. Black markets are just as capitalist as legal markets, perhaps moreso.

I definitely would favor legalization/decriminalization and harm reduction programs for most recreational drugs like marijuana and ecstacy, but perhaps some drugs would be less harmful overall if they were controlled substances. Overall though I think drug abuse should be seen as more of a public health problem than an enforcement problem, at least at the consumption end.

[Hiero]

The cocaine industry in Colombia isn't controlled by FARC, it's already there and bigger than them and they participate in it to survive and it certainly distorts their activities. Most drug trafficking is done by criminal cartels that are no less capitalist than Wal-Mart or Monsanto, they just happen to be underground and are some of the most brutal enterprises around. The similarities of a drug operation to a major monopolistic corporation like McDonalds from the micro to the macro scale and across the entire supply chain would amaze you. Black markets are just as capitalist as legal markets, perhaps moreso.

I think FARC simply tax the coca growers. Coca growing has been part of South America's history for a long time, it's just that another market grow when Coca started to be turned into cocaine. So as far as they participate it is simply taxing the farmers.

Which really we shouldn't criticism them on this issue, we can't really expect a third world armed Marxist group to go around making moral issues on problems that are not of their own.

[ellipsis]

Marijuana could never be controlled by corporations, although they would probably sell it too because the plant is so easy to grow and cure by anybody, even if they don't even know what they are doing. Because capitalists cannot control it/tax it, legalization of the plant will be very difficult.

My understanding of coca growers is that small family growers brings their leaves to large coca exchanges where they sell it and other people come and by it from the exchange. I am not sure if this how it always works but I know that some does.

[GX.]

You are really naive. I would not mind seeing the fucking drug bosses up against the wall with all the other vermin of society. They are awful and they are if anything, an expression of decomposing capitalism and the increasing brutalization of the capitalists.
Capitalism is not "decomposing," brutality and intimidation have always been essential to its functioning.

[fabilius]

legalize and tax.

It´s hypocritical to ban marijuana and allow alcohol.

And you could sniff glue just as you could buy heroine with a similar risk of death, and a some sort of a high.

[TC]

if a america legalizes drugs, would it be good or bad? on one hand throwing people in jail for smoking pot is bullshit, but the drug industry is one of the few products not controlled by corporations

I completely agree with the legalization of all drugs but I think you have it the wrong way around. Merchants who sell illegal drugs are more not less harmful than merchants who sell most other consumer products because they target the most marginalized communities and their customers have no recourse against them.

One of the most positive effects of legalizing the drug trade is that it would destroy the violent organizesations that it employs (both the gangs and drug enforcement agencies and departments) who have done so much damage to marginalized communities. Legalizing drugs would end gang monopoly: capitalists might profit directly but they profit from gang violence indirectly anyways because it facilitates their social control of the effected communities.


in fact the main cocain industry in columbia right now is controlled by marxist rebels...

Thats just really not true, most columbian drug production is outside of FARC areas and the FARC doesn't itself produce cocaine it just taxes cocaine producers in its territory.



P.S. im not sure were this topic goes, also im talking about the legality of drugs not advocating there use so please dont ban me.

I would be happy to advocate the use of some drugs by some people in some circumstances.

[S.O.I]

if a america legalizes drugs, would it be good?

yes indeed.

[Revy]

I support decriminalization of all drugs.

I am tired of hearing about so many innocent people busted for a victimless crime. The penalties here in Florida are extreme.

Some people have concerns about the really terrible kinds of drugs and their effects on the community. Well the only thing that will work is an alternative approach that doesn't involve locking people up.