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Sasha
8th May 2009, 16:41
Beat the Fascists wherever you meet them!

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On May Day 2009 around 1,000 Nazis marched through Ulm (Baden-Württemberg) and Neu-Ulm (Bavaria) where they were confronted by 5,000 counter demonstrators. On this day there were further fascist demonstrations, with a total of 3,000 participating Nazis. Despite the militant resistance in Ulm, the only Nazi march that could be prevented was in Mainz. The march in Ulm was organised by the youth organisation of the National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD), the young national democrats (JN). A broad spectrum of fascists participated at the march.

While in Ulm autonomous Antifa were subjected to excessive police violence, they were yet again betrayed by the “German Confederation of Trade Unions” (DGB) but received solidarity only from Kurdish as well as communist demonstrators. The DGB has yet again placed itself in the tradition of May Day 1933. Even then the Nazi’s attempted to transfigure the “international workers day” into the “day of national work”. On the 2nd of May 1933 they devoured the trade union movement while on the day before part of the trade Union movement went on the streets together with the Nazi Party. Every year the Nazis try to claim May Day for themselves so that its roots will be forgotten: The anarchist assembly in 1886 at the Haymarket in Chicago to promote a general strike for an 8 hour working day.

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May Day 2008 became a signal for a new form of right-wing radicalism in Germany. For the first time the “Autonomous Nationalists” (AN) received attention from the media. It was then that 1,100 Nazis from a militant youth subculture marched through the Barmbeck district of the city Hamburg. Over 9,000 leftists gave resistance, the Nazis concentrated their attacks against members of the press as well as political opponents. The police were surprised and dumbfounded by the new quality of right wing militancy. Within the scene the attention resulted in a greater momentum in the attractiveness of the AN. The AN present themselves as a superficial right-wing rip-off of Autonomous Antifa’s and are attempting to develop a violent and modern image in order to attract young people. Although they are turning away from traditional repugnant Nazi images such as the narrow minded hair parting (aka Hitler) or the thuggish Nazi-skin, in order to appeal to a new generation, they have however failed to achieve the support of a broad spectrum necessary for a mass movement.

On the 12th of April 2008, 800 AN’s had already marched through the town of Stolberg (North Rhine-Westphalia). The reason for this is that on the 4th of April a youth had been killed in a street fight after attending an NPD meeting. The largest rally so far by the Autonomous Nationalists occurred on the 6th of September 2008 when 1,200 Nazis, despite counter-protests from 1,800 left-wing demonstrators, were able to march undisturbed through the streets of Dortmund (North Rhine-Westphalia). The march was to commemorate the German invasion of Poland on the 1st of September 1939. The Nazis have been commemorating the start of the second world war for the past four years, cynically running under the motto of “national anti-war day”. On the 1st of May 2009 the AN marched once again through their stronghold Dortmund, this time 300 of them attacked a Trade union demonstration.

On the 13th of September 2008 1,100 Nazis took part in the 4th “Festival of the nations” (Fest der Völker/Fdv) in Altenburg (Thuringia), they were met by 2,000 left-wing counter-demonstrators. At the annual Rechtsrock (Rock against communism) festival, organised by the NPD, the bands which play mainly belong to the music network “Blood and Honour”. Hardcore Nazis from all over Europe travel to this festival which serves as an opportunity to improve right-wing networks. Many of the Nazis are independent of political parties organised into the so-called “Freien Kameradschaften” (independent camaraderie organisations). The aim of such large meetings, such as the “Festival of Nations”, is to construct so-called “nationally liberated zones” within larger cities, which in contrast to some rural areas will only exist for a limited time.

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The largest Nazi demonstration in Germany, since the end of the second world war, took place on the 14th of February in Dresden (Saxony). On the anniversary of the allied bombing 6,500 Nazis, from all over Europe, marched through the city. Although for the first time this year, several thousand left-wing counter-demonstrators also attended, the revisionist event has managed to inscribe itself in the agenda of European Nazis. Just as the marches in Wunsiedel (Bavaria) to the grave of Rudolf Hess or the annual party of the NPD newspaper “Deutschen Stimme” (“German voice”) mostly in towns in East-Germany before, Dresden has become the main annual meeting of European Nazis.

The three main characteristics of the larger Nazi meetings is networking and organising, promoting self confidence in the internal ranks and demonstrating a potency to the outside world. The reason why the Nazis are meeting is unimportant, as long as they serve as an identification function for the whole Nazi spectrum. This is especially the case for historical revisionist themes, where mainly Nazi political strongholds are selected. It is not enough to just stop the larger Nazi meetings, the Nazis have shown that they are able to react flexibly to legal restrictions. Besides fighting against the Nazi ideology present within the society and reporting about Nazi activities it is completely necessary to smash the Nazi structures: every single Nazi has to be attacked by any means necessary.

Never again fascism!

Autonome Antifa Freiburg (http://www.autonome-antifa.org/)
Communiqué from 07.05.2009


Antifascist Ticker of May 1st 2009 from Hanover (http://linksunten.indymedia.org/en/ticker/1mai09/hannover), Mainz (http://linksunten.indymedia.org/en/ticker/1mai09/mainz), Siegen (http://linksunten.indymedia.org/en/ticker/1mai09/siegen) und Ulm (http://linksunten.indymedia.org/en/ticker/1mai09/ulm)
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Ongedierte
8th May 2009, 17:52
Quite an interesting summary of nazi activity in Germany. Unfortunately it doesn't really give us an idea of how to (effectively!) oppose the fascists, other than talking about smashing the nazi structures and attacking every single nazi (by any means necessary) But then again, I don't think the purpose of this article is to set out a roadmap for stopping european/german/worldwide fascist activity, but rather to show how urgent it is for all of us to actively oppose fascism.

Rjevan
8th May 2009, 22:49
For the first time the “Autonomous Nationalists” (AN) received attention from the media. It was then that 1,100 Nazis from a militant youth subculture marched through the Barmbeck district of the city Hamburg.
Oh, I hate these pseudo left Nazis! They realised that they have better chances to attract youths and supporters with presenting themselves more modern and left in times of the financial crisis and radicalisation of many youths. Now they drag leftism in the mud, like they always draged anything in the mud which seemd fitting to their current strategy and copy real Autonomous.


they have however failed to achieve the support of a broad spectrum necessary for a mass movement.

:D


Besides fighting against the Nazi ideology present within the society and reporting about Nazi activities it is completely necessary to smash the Nazi structures: every single Nazi has to be attacked by any means necessary.

Never again fascism!

Well said, the "ingnoring and debating with fascists"-course is useless and the fascists are getting more and more violent and militant everywhere. All they understand is the good old hard bash in the face. So let's make them understand what we think about their ideas.

Melbourne Lefty
10th May 2009, 03:44
they have however failed to achieve the support of a broad spectrum necessary for a mass movement.


Really? Police say there were 8000 neo-nazi marchers in Dresden.

Thats insanely big for a nazi march led by open neo-nazis. And the marches get bigger every year, the left wing marches are still bigger, but there is no-guarentee that this situation will continue.

DreamWeaver
10th May 2009, 19:39
Dresden was a warzone. We tried to get to the nazi's with around 4000 Autonomen but failed to get close because of (some say as much as 16.000) police with helicopters, watercannons and some other toys. The law in Germany forbidding 'defensive weapons' does not help either. It is scary to see the extreme right sometimes outnumber us in eastern Europe. The opposition of unions and their counterdemonstrations (numbering a total of 15.000) were not an answer to the 7.500 neo-nazis from all over (eastern-)Europe.

redSHARP
10th May 2009, 21:09
are these "autonomous Nazis" any way connected with National Bolsheviks or National Anarchists?

Omi
10th May 2009, 22:14
Yep, these self proclaimed ''autonomen'' sometimes identify as such. A known dutch neo-nazi, Eite Homann, is a self proclaimed national bosjevik (at least, he identified as such some years ago) and has been trying to import this german trend into Holland too. The problem is, the dutch ''national autonomen'' are duchebags who are no threat at all, and generally are laughed at by everyone, including a large proportion of the rest of the Dutch right.
But yeah, there is a strong connection there, its stems from the same ideological twist of ''anti-capitalist national socialism'' as it were... Which as we all know is insane. :sleep:

Sasha
11th May 2009, 00:36
are these "autonomous Nazis" any way connected with National Bolsheviks or National Anarchists?

most identify as "strasserists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strasserism)"

Melbourne Lefty
11th May 2009, 06:01
Its a worrying trend.

Has anyone got any knowlege of the 'identitaires' in France? They seem to be trying for something similar, and as anyone who has looked into it knows there is a long tradition of far right street activism in Italy.

As for Eastern europe, I have not got the slightest idea, the only book I can find on the subject is about 5 years out of date.

But the trend seems to be that when neo-nazis [or neo-fascists, or post fascists or whatever] stop trying to look like something out of American History X and start playing to their audience they can grow with surprising speed.

redSHARP
11th May 2009, 06:41
i hate to deviate from the original thread but, the national Bolsheviks and national anarchists have connections in the US. mainly through the goth/metal scene from what i heard of. this activist style of fascism that is in Europe is not an issue in the US.

SmashTheFash123
11th May 2009, 12:32
Its a worrying trend.

Has anyone got any knowlege of the 'identitaires' in France? They seem to be trying for something similar, and as anyone who has looked into it knows there is a long tradition of far right street activism in Italy.

As for Eastern europe, I have not got the slightest idea, the only book I can find on the subject is about 5 years out of date.

But the trend seems to be that when neo-nazis [or neo-fascists, or post fascists or whatever] stop trying to look like something out of American History X and start playing to their audience they can grow with surprising speed.

The main issue with "Left-wing National Socialism/Strasserism" is that the working class may come to see the fascists as representing them and speaking up for their issues. That makes it harder for any genuinely leftist organisation to take hold.

Of course, they don't win any elections, but as the situation in Russia has shown us, it's far better to control the streets of your country than control its parliament.

The situation in Eastern Europe is really bad from what I hear, although I've never actually been there myself. The thing I really don't understand- why the fuck are there's loads of Slavic neo-Nazis running around in Eastern Europe? Hitler spelt out quite clearly he considered Slavs to be sub-human. :confused: Do they just write off the plan to exterminate them as a hoax or what? :confused:

redSHARP
18th May 2009, 04:39
The main issue with "Left-wing National Socialism/Strasserism" is that the working class may come to see the fascists as representing them and speaking up for their issues. That makes it harder for any genuinely leftist organisation to take hold.

Of course, they don't win any elections, but as the situation in Russia has shown us, it's far better to control the streets of your country than control its parliament.

The situation in Eastern Europe is really bad from what I hear, although I've never actually been there myself. The thing I really don't understand- why the fuck are there's loads of Slavic neo-Nazis running around in Eastern Europe? Hitler spelt out quite clearly he considered Slavs to be sub-human. :confused: Do they just write off the plan to exterminate them as a hoax or what? :confused:

most tend to ignore that fact or state they dont support nazis. they usually see the positive nationalist side of the argument and ignore or rewrite the history. fascism to them, doesnt mean nazism.

SmashTheFash123
18th May 2009, 18:07
most tend to ignore that fact or state they dont support nazis. they usually see the positive nationalist side of the argument and ignore or rewrite the history. fascism to them, doesnt mean nazism.

Yeah but I've seen documentaries on Russian Neo-Nazis, swastikas and all. It's fucking retarded- if Hitler had won the war they'd probably not even have been born.

redSHARP
19th May 2009, 08:22
well then i guess they didnt read their history books!:laugh:

Melbourne Lefty
20th May 2009, 09:21
Yeah but I've seen documentaries on Russian Neo-Nazis, swastikas and all. It's fucking retarded- if Hitler had won the war they'd probably not even have been born.

Frokm what I have seen they believe they are directly decended from the Rus.

Which would make them germanic, and does make them nuts.

Omi
20th May 2009, 14:24
The problem of eastern europe isn't that there are massive amounts of neo-nazis, but that they are for a great deal football hooligans. And as everyone knows, hooligans from eastern europe are batshit fucking crazy. Hence the horror stories.:cool:

SmashTheFash123
20th May 2009, 16:45
Well I hope we're all agreed all fascists and nazis have to be exterminated for the good of the world. Or at least we'd have to lock them all up somewhere so they could pose no risk to sane and intelligent people.

Omi
22nd May 2009, 12:47
Well I hope we're all agreed all fascists and nazis have to be exterminated for the good of the world. Or at least we'd have to lock them all up somewhere so they could pose no risk to sane and intelligent people.

No.:thumbdown:

wigsa
22nd May 2009, 19:23
Well written article,fair play for writing it.However it is indeed worrying that a number as big as 6,500 could actually turn out for fascist event.That says alot about their organisational skills and promotion of events.They've obviously got a system which is working effectively and improving,I hate to say it,but their number impress me.

I'd never been worried about them ever outnumbering antifa demonstrators,but it's a big jump from 1100 against 9000 to 6500 against 7000.Worrying stuff,calls for even greater organisation and communication between people on all sides of the left as we struggle to wage the war against fascism.

Melbourne Lefty
23rd May 2009, 09:42
Well I hope we're all agreed all fascists and nazis have to be exterminated for the good of the world. Or at least we'd have to lock them all up somewhere so they could pose no risk to sane and intelligent people.

15 posts huh and advocating the extermination of your political oposition hey?

Anyone else smell fish?:confused:

SmashTheFash123
25th May 2009, 21:52
15 posts huh and advocating the extermination of your political oposition hey?

Anyone else smell fish?:confused:

You're the "fish". You just post negative comments about anti-fascist strategies and it makes me wonder whether you're actually a fascist yourself trying to divert positive anti-fascist action into harmless action that won't change a fucking thing.

Melbourne Lefty
26th May 2009, 02:42
You're the "fish". You just post negative comments about anti-fascist strategies and it makes me wonder whether you're actually a fascist yourself trying to divert positive anti-fascist action into harmless action that won't change a fucking thing.


18 posts now and calling me a fascist?

big man there..:rolleyes:

ls
26th May 2009, 03:58
Maybe you're both fash? Maybe we're all fash?

Can you stop infesting each thread with this now?