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BOZG
17th October 2002, 23:54
Violently Racist Music (http://home.att.net/~phosphor/)

Don't worry. The title isn't a personal opinion. I just thought the site in the above link would be an interesting read for hip hop fans or for anyone who can respect it.


(Edited by BornOfZapatasGuns at 10:48 pm on Oct. 18, 2002)

Lardlad95
18th October 2002, 02:24
That entire site is bullshit

they found a few muthafuckas who said that shit and blew it up to include racism

I aint never heard The Roots, Talib kweli, Mos Def, Jurassic five, Outkast, Dialated Peoples, etc. talk about killing white people

that is bullshit and anyone who agrees is a moron

El Brujo
18th October 2002, 04:50
You know, there are quite big odds that the people that made that site are racists themselves. I once saw a site that talked about the same kind of shit about the media ignoring "anti-white racism", turns out this was a Resistence Records (biggest nazi music record label in the face of the world) website. Anything that is against anti-minority racism is not "pro-white" by their idiotic standards so they label it as anti-white racism (I know, I know: hypocrites. But we've established that nazis are too stupid to be considered human).

Another site that talked about related shit even whent as far as claiming Rage Against The Machine is a racist band and that since their "white people condoning anti-white racism" that their probably jews. You see where this is going right.

BOZG
18th October 2002, 07:49
Brujo,

I did notice that there is a Nazi feeling on that site. When speaking about the Beastie Boys, the first thing that is pointed out is that they are "white Jews". They also continuously defend racist white music complaining that everyone campaigns for freedom of speech in hip hop while banning racist "white" music.


LL,

Most of the stuff I read on that site isn't actually meant as racist, but more as anti-racist. References to the "devils" and "crackers" have generally come to be anti-racist and refer to white supremists. The site defines everything in black and white. They have also assumed that African nationalism must be a racist doctrine because it embraces African unity. African nationalism began as a way to raise pride for themselves and each other in a community where the people had been humiliated and had their spirits crushed for 400 years.

truthaddict11
18th October 2002, 17:34
if you want to hear people try to link Rage to racism and nazism go to the rock for life site its fuckin hiralrious

BOZG
18th October 2002, 22:47
Rock For Life (http://www.rockforlife.org)

Just checked out the site. Pretty fucking funny. They tied RATM to nazism by stating that one of Nietzche's books is in the inlay for a Rage album and that Nietzche's teachings justified nazi Germany.

deadpool 52
20th October 2002, 03:28
Nothing more hillarious and aggravating than ignorance.

El Brujo
20th October 2002, 20:07
LMAO. "Rock for life"? Let me guess, anti-abortion music, right?

BOZG
20th October 2002, 21:19
Good guess Brujo. Can you just see some metal head, screaming about pro-life?

Xvall
20th October 2002, 22:41
I notice that; Why do Nazis always complain about racism against whites, while at the same time denying or supporting the holocaust, and using racial slurs against minorities!?

BOZG
20th October 2002, 22:58
Because they are Ubermensch.

anger is a gift
21st October 2002, 00:33
i have no patience for those pro-life people. they simply don't want to look at/accept reality. anyone who wants to govern morals or force their hang ups with god on me can kiss my fucking ass. sorry.

as an after thought, what do you think is the best hip-hop record ever? my vote is for NAS Illmatic

Lardlad95
21st October 2002, 02:13
Things Fall Apart-The Roots (I know Illedlph was good but still I mean this album was so damn versitile)

Train of Thought-Talib kweli and dj Hi Tek

Black on Both Sides-Mos Def

Black Star-Mos Def and Talib Kweli


all get my vote.

perception
21st October 2002, 18:00
Quote: from Lardlad95 on 9:13 pm on Oct. 20, 2002
Things Fall Apart-The Roots (I know Illedlph was good but still I mean this album was so damn versitile)

Train of Thought-Talib kweli and dj Hi Tek

Black on Both Sides-Mos Def

Black Star-Mos Def and Talib Kweli


all get my vote.

Things Fall Apart fell apart for me after "spark", and didn't pick it back up till "love of my life". That's like 6 tracks I have to skip when I play it. Even the Mos Def joint has a god-awful beat. on Illadelph, you can throw that FF button out the window.

Talib Kwali's joint also lost it after "1,2,3,4" - there's like 8 or 9 tracks that are just annoying.

Black star and Black on Both sides are sick tho.


I gotta give "Illmatic" a nod for best of all time, but I'd prolly lean more towards 36 Chambers. Both of those are before Lardlad's time though(what were you, four or five when they dropped??)...

Lardlad95
22nd October 2002, 03:46
Your kidding?

ON talib's cd 4-8 are gold seriously I lvoe those songs

13 is incredible and the otehr songs are good

except for the one with exibit


also on things fall apart

1-10 I can listen to with out stopping

then you got Adrenaline...and You Got me

great songs

I'm surprised you didn't like those albums