View Full Version : Is it true the media has a love affair with Barack Obama
larry5
3rd May 2009, 17:36
I hear all over that the media favors Barack Obama and has a "love affair" with him. Do you think this is really the case?
bellyscratch
3rd May 2009, 17:52
Well. I wouldn't quite put it in them terms, but I'd say it is pretty true yes.
He has a very good PR team working behind him and has made himself into a brand. On average, 60% of stories in the papers use PR releases with little or no changes, basically because of the downsizing of newspaper staff and increased amount of pages to fill. I think TV news has a lower use of PR material, something like 35% if I remember correctly, but thats still a huge amount.
On top of this, many people in the media don't want to criticise him too much, as they want to keep on getting this supply of stories from his team
So when the media are so reliant on PR to be able to function, someone with such a good PR team like Obama is going to get a lot of positive coverage.
EDIT: those statistics are for the UK, not sure what it is in the US, but I'd imagine it would be higher.
Comrade B
3rd May 2009, 21:39
The media is a broad term.
We could say the media of the United States hates communism, as it is true among all parts of it, CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and the entertainment channels will never show socialism in a good light, however the world media is not so much. In the United States the media is split on Obama. CNN is moderately right wing, but will not speak against a current president, Fox is radical right wing borderline fascist and full of weakly hidden racism, they hate Obama, MSNBC would love nothing more than to make sweet romantic love with Obama, and the entertainment channels tend to be pro-Obama.
Marx22
3rd May 2009, 22:20
I wouldn't say CNN is a moderate right wing channel, they have a lot of liberal shows on their network but do balance that with some right wingers; CNN is more of the middle-ground channel.
As for the love affair, well he is a new president, a popular one at that. Once people start turning against him, they won't cover him as in such a light as he is now, and will treat him like Bush like during the 05-06 years, where Bush's 9-11 armor was starting to rust, and people began to speak out more against him etc.
Palmares
3rd May 2009, 23:03
I agree that this question is extremely broad.
But at least if one was to think about media expression in the US, Obama is a democratic, a "liberal". So it follows that media outlets that are even more right-wing wouldn't portray him in such a favourable light.
There was that huge campaign, supported by such outlets as Fox News, to make people believe that Obama was a Muslim, so as to play on the bigotry of various American citizens.
Communist Theory
3rd May 2009, 23:07
Why would you ask this question? Turn on the TV and find out for yourself.
I hate these idiotic threads.
CNN loves him acts like he is the second coming. 24 hours a day pro Obama all the time even the family dog was covered by the news. Its a joke.
Fox doesn't like him at all. The right-wingers on that channel tear into his policys on everything all the time. And call him a communist which kills me.
I hear all over that the media favors Barack Obama and has a "love affair" with him. Do you think this is really the case?
Ssssh! Don't tell Michelle!
In ireland yes, nut how long will it last, who knows. They still love Clinton.
Post-Something
4th May 2009, 00:57
Well, define "love".
Well, define "love".
Oh shit, he went there.
A justification for lust is my favourite one to date.
Pirate Utopian
4th May 2009, 01:59
The Dutch news remains pretty neutral but outside of that like talkshows and other informal media, they all support and praise Obama.
Comrade Anarchist
4th May 2009, 02:01
i think that there is a love affair mainly with msnbc but i think that is jst a facade to attract new watchers while fox news hates him just for more new watchers
Il Medico
5th May 2009, 02:07
Yes. Why? Because although he is a capitalist and doing some fucked up shit with his economic plans, he is way better than Bush. That's why Americans love him, that's why Europeans love, that's why the media (exception of FOX [ Fascist Oppressive Xenophobes]) love him. The fact is that though for a socialist mind he is no better, in the worlds mind he is. That is how bad Bush was. And that's the reason no real change will come.:glare:
Captain Jack
mykittyhasaboner
5th May 2009, 02:35
I think hes just as bad as Bush, what makes you think hes better?
Comrade B
5th May 2009, 04:31
I think hes just as bad as Bush, what makes you think hes better?
What makes you think he is as bad as Bush? He has been in a position of power for 100 days... not much. Hasn't done shit, but I will wait for him to do something WRONG as Bush enjoyed doing frequently before I call him as bad.
I don't like him, but I don't hate him with as fiery of a passion that I did Bush and friends.
ComradeR
5th May 2009, 08:57
What makes you think he is as bad as Bush? He has been in a position of power for 100 days... not much. Hasn't done shit, but I will wait for him to do something WRONG as Bush enjoyed doing frequently before I call him as bad.
I don't like him, but I don't hate him with as fiery of a passion that I did Bush and friends.
The man is as much a warmongering imperialist as Bush. Not to mention he has conveniently done nothing to repeal many of the laws and policies Bush enacted (Patriot Act anyone?). He is no better or worse then Bush, he is just better at hiding his imperialism behind liberal rhetoric.
TheCultofAbeLincoln
5th May 2009, 09:09
Come on, face it. He's a lot fucking better -so far- than the last dumbass was.
At the very least the media loves the fact that he can pronounce words of more than one syllable without stuttering....getting confused....then starting over again in a completely different sentence.
ComradeR
5th May 2009, 10:04
Come on, face it. He's a lot fucking better -so far- than the last dumbass was.
Please explain how "He's a lot fucking better" then Bush? What has he done that is so progressive? Because as things stand now along with the direction he is going he is no better then Bush. Both imperialist warmongers, both making working class people pay for the financial crisis, both committed to the use of terror and torture in their imperialist wars (Obama says alot of rhetoric about how he will stop torture yet it's just that, rhetoric). About the only thing different between the two is Obama is a hell of a lot better at hiding it.
JimmyJazz
5th May 2009, 10:09
I wouldn't say CNN is a moderate right wing channel, they have a lot of liberal shows
Liberal (in the American sense of tax-and-spend while preserving capitalist property relations) is moderate right-wing.
Comrade B
6th May 2009, 06:03
The man is as much a warmongering imperialist as Bush.
That is a statement, not proof. He has yet to declare a war, he has only continued the old shit.
Not to mention he has conveniently done nothing to repeal many of the laws and policies Bush enacted (Patriot Act anyone?) He has yet to create a new problem though, he just hasn't done anything to fix it, besides, he is an American politician, they are cowards who don't change a damn thing, if he did reverse something it would be a big event in the US.
He's a lot fucking better
I would disagree with that too, though he is a lot smarter than the last guy, he is still not going to fix a damn thing. I just think he won't hurt much. Clinton however is another issue, she I really don't trust. Her unconditional love for Israel is disgusting.
TheCultofAbeLincoln
6th May 2009, 06:24
Please explain how "He's a lot fucking better" then Bush?
Not invading nations without any justification. We were seriously debating bombing Iran a few months ago, and had a President who refused to offer any hope of reconciliation.
What has he done that is so progressive?
Not cutting taxes on the wealthiest individuals in the world, for example. In fact, allowing those reactionary tax cuts to expire could be called progressive, even if it requires very little actual work.
Because as things stand now along with the direction he is going he is no better then Bush. Both imperialist warmongers, both making working class people pay for the financial crisis, both committed to the use of terror and torture in their imperialist wars (Obama says alot of rhetoric about how he will stop torture yet it's just that, rhetoric). About the only thing different between the two is Obama is a hell of a lot better at hiding it.
Look at it this way. If Souter retired under W, we might be looking at enough conservative justices to overturn Roe v Wade.
'Nuff said.
ComradeR
6th May 2009, 14:10
That is a statement, not proof. He has yet to declare a war, he has only continued the old shit.
No he hasn't declared a war, but he is escalating the war in Afghanistan, increasing attacks in Pakistan, is keeping over 50,000 troops in Iraq and continuing the saber rattling against North Korea etc. That sounds like a warmonger to me.
He has yet to create a new problem though, he just hasn't done anything to fix it, besides, he is an American politician, they are cowards who don't change a damn thing, if he did reverse something it would be a big event in the US.
Then please explain how he is any better then Bush if even with a democrat majority he refuses to change things?
Not cutting taxes on the wealthiest individuals in the world, for example. In fact, allowing those reactionary tax cuts to expire could be called progressive, even if it requires very little actual work.
Thats not progressive. That's the same liberal PR crap democrats always pull out in order to make themselves look like friends of the working class. It dosen't change the fact that he is still making the working class pay for this financial crisis.
Look my whole point is that he is to the workers as a class not much better or worse then Bush.
Nosotros
6th May 2009, 18:47
I wouldn't say CNN is a moderate right wing channel, they have a lot of liberal shows on their network but do balance that with some right wingers; CNN is more of the middle-ground channel.
As for the love affair, well he is a new president, a popular one at that. Once people start turning against him, they won't cover him as in such a light as he is now, and will treat him like Bush like during the 05-06 years, where Bush's 9-11 armor was starting to rust, and people began to speak out more against him etc.
Liberalism is right-wing though, it is an individualist and capitalist ideology.
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