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Stranger Than Paradise
2nd May 2009, 20:40
I was wondering how many of the people on here went to university or college. For those who didn't what is your job and the same for those who did? Also for those who didn't do you regret not going?

Pogue
2nd May 2009, 20:43
not even old enough to go uni yet so

Devrim
2nd May 2009, 20:45
No, I didn't. I left school at 15. My wife did more than enough studying for both of us.

Devrim

Madvillainy
2nd May 2009, 20:45
No I never did. I have a really shit job, not sure if it would have been different had I stayed on at school. But I have no real regrets anyways.

Pogue
2nd May 2009, 20:51
No I never did. I have a really shit job, not sure if it would have been different had I stayed on at school. But I have no real regrets anyways.

leaving at 18 after a levels does not increase the opputunies you would have had if you left at 15/16 with GCSEs

A levels are only for uni really

F9
2nd May 2009, 21:48
not even old enough to go uni yet so

yep, that

Madvillainy
2nd May 2009, 21:55
leaving at 18 after a levels does not increase the opputunies you would have had if you left at 15/16 with GCSEs



I left without GCSE's as well though. Which was fairly stupid of me. :(

Dóchas
2nd May 2009, 22:10
iv got another few years until i go to university/college (well thats the plan ;))

BobKKKindle$
3rd May 2009, 00:01
I'm at uni at the moment. My intention/desire is to go into academia but that will only happen if I do well in my degree and a university agrees to fund a doctorate, or a masters followed by a doctorate. If that doesn't happen then it will be out into the big bad world with a degree in history and politics :(

bcbm
3rd May 2009, 00:12
I'm at uni at the moment. My intention/desire is to go into academia but that will only happen if I do well in my degree and a university agrees to fund a doctorate, or a masters followed by a doctorate. If that doesn't happen then it will be out into the big bad world with a degree in history and politics :(

I was going to school for a history major and then realized I have no desire to teach or be a part of academia, so I dropped out.

TheCultofAbeLincoln
3rd May 2009, 00:35
I went for a couple classes at the local community college. Plan on going to a university soon.

Angry Young Man
3rd May 2009, 01:58
I'm surprised by how young so many people are. Now I feel even more insecure about my age :lol:

At uni atm. English and Drama

Bright Banana Beard
3rd May 2009, 03:21
I am going to college soon. I plan to complete general arts certifaction then be a dentist. Yes, I am going to be petit-bourgeois.

black magick hustla
3rd May 2009, 03:59
i am going for physics right now. physics phd student are almost always funded, contrary to the humanities ones, so thats fair for me

Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor
3rd May 2009, 18:19
I answered yes because I'm currently in university, and my circumstances strongly suggest I will continue with those studies. There are a few problems I encounter that could theoretically put a stop to my studies, or my interests could change, but the chances of those things happening are fairly insignificant or pointless to consider "unless they happen."

I'm taking Philosophy and Political Science, a combined major. I may take a minor in Psychology if it turns out I find it interesting. My independent research on philosophy sparked an interest, and I'll be taking a course in Psychology next term, most likely.

Killfacer
3rd May 2009, 18:22
I'm going to fairly soon. It's gonna be a hell of a lot better than working in asda.

Pirate turtle the 11th
3rd May 2009, 18:24
KF what A levels did you et?

Holden Caulfield
3rd May 2009, 18:30
I go to uni because Pirelli didn't give me a job the fucking wankers.
But then again i probably would have been let go with the rest of the workers that Pirelli have just fired so this whole 'going to uni to fill in time' kinda worked out well for me.

I'm a 'first generation' student as well, my pops worked in Pirelli from 15 years of age, so i was trying to follow my old man, but times have moved on :(

BobKKKindle$
3rd May 2009, 18:43
I'm second generation, my mum left school after GCSEs, my father's parents didn't go, and neither did my mum's, for financial reasons in both cases, but my father is a smart guy so he studied mechanical engineering at Loughborough, which is ironic because he works in computer programming now, but thankfully his degree meant I got a good education. I was actually talking to some comrades the other day about how many people in the SWP and leftist organizations in general would be university graduates, or current students, and someone suggested that it might be more half of the party's total membership, because the SWP tends to have quite a lot of teachers and university lecturers.

Holden Caulfield
3rd May 2009, 18:47
because the SWP tends to have quite a lot of teachers and university lecturers.
What?!?! The SWP is full of middle class students and academics, somebody inform the press!

Devrim
3rd May 2009, 18:48
I was actually talking to some comrades the other day about how many people in the SWP and leftist organizations in general would be university graduates, or current students, and someone suggested that it might be more half of the party's total membership, because the SWP tends to have quite a lot of teachers and university lecturers.

Only half, I would imagine that it is much higher.

Devrim

BobKKKindle$
3rd May 2009, 18:52
Only half, I would imagine that it is much higher.

It might be, I don't know. It doesn't diminish the SWP's role as a progressive and revolutionary organization (or, for you, the extent to which the SWP is part of capitalism's left political apparatus blah blah blah), I just found it interesting. In a way it isn't surprising, because the proportion of the population that has some kind of degree has been rising for a long time.

Holden Caulfield
3rd May 2009, 18:57
maybe this is why the SWP & UAF etc cannot communicate with the working class, because they have never met them :mellow:

hugsandmarxism
3rd May 2009, 19:01
I'm finishing up my second year at Uni as a Sociology major.

Angry Young Man
3rd May 2009, 20:47
Do I count as 1st Generation when my sister's so much older than me and my cousins older still?

Comrade B
3rd May 2009, 21:34
I marked yes, as I will be attending University of Puget Sound in September, though I am not in college presently.

Angry Young Man
3rd May 2009, 21:35
Disease-covered Puget Sound?

Comrade B
3rd May 2009, 21:42
Disease-covered? dunno what you are talking about man. We have a couple of cases of swine flu out in Washington, but it isn't a big thing.
My only problem with UPS that I have seen so far is that most of the people there appear to be those middle class hippie types with the $90 pre-worn jeans, I felt somewhat out of place in my jeans which are torn in a normal pattern as to be expected of 3 years of use, and with my $10 hand-me-down shirt.

Angry Young Man
3rd May 2009, 22:06
It's a reference to Frances Farmer wil have her revenge on Seattle.

Devrim
4th May 2009, 08:49
It might be, I don't know. It doesn't diminish the SWP's role as a progressive and revolutionary organization (or, for you, the extent to which the SWP is part of capitalism's left political apparatus blah blah blah), I just found it interesting. In a way it isn't surprising, because the proportion of the population that has some kind of degree has been rising for a long time.

I doubt that I have ever used the phrase "capitalism's left political apparatus", but you seem to have grown quite fond of it recently.

On the subject of the number of people in these sort of organisations who were either students or graduates, when I worked in England in the second half of the 80s, it seemed to me that many workers resented students.

There was at the time a deep hatred of the sociological middle class amongst the 'manual working class'. Now to say that the middle class doesn't exist and that this attitude divides the class, whilst being true, does not change the fact that this attitude existed, and for all I know (It is very rare for me to go to England) may still exist though one would imagine that the widening of access to higher education has had some change in the attitudes towards students.

At the time, however, it was very rare to meet a member of the SWP, or any of the other groups*, who had not been to University. The SWP was widely known as either the 'Social Workers Party' or the 'Student Wankers Party'. Names which I think were not unrelated to the behaviour of SWP members patronisingly lecturing workers on their own picket lines.

Devrim

*Actually, the anarchists tended to be an exception.

RHIZOMES
4th May 2009, 09:06
I'm at University since noone has been willing to hire me. :lol: I'll probably try academia or high school teacher afterwards depending on my grades.

NecroCommie
4th May 2009, 10:10
I have a problem. There is unnatural competition both in jobs and universities here. It does not make things any easier that I am young = inexperienced. Capitalism is a shitty deal.

I hope I will be in a university within a year or two.

Holden Caulfield
4th May 2009, 10:13
I hate students as well they are tossers.

When me and Kindles were lost in London we had a system where I asked for directions in working class areas and he asked in posh areas. True Story, :lol:

Stranger Than Paradise
4th May 2009, 10:15
I hate students as well they are tossers.

When me and Kindles were lost in London we had a system where I asked for directions in working class areas and he asked in posh areas. True Story, :lol:

What did you find your results to be?

Angry Young Man
4th May 2009, 11:49
I hate students as well they are tossers.

When me and Kindles were lost in London we had a system where I asked for directions in working class areas and he asked in posh areas. True Story, :lol:

Hey dude, you've never had to walk somebody in crimson drainpipes through Hounslow looking for a building that was in Southall.

Holden Caulfield
4th May 2009, 11:57
What did you find your results to be? Highly conclusive, we found our way, the posh folk told bob in their boring voices, and i had a convo with an old lady as a bus stop who said i had a very long way to go but that a straping lad like me should have no problem with it, she also touched my arm in a very flirtatious manner :cool:

Angry Young Man
4th May 2009, 12:04
she also touched my arm in a very flirtatious manner :cool:
She was a gay communist in disguise.

Holden Caulfield
4th May 2009, 12:14
She was a gay communist in disguise.

omg it was you wasnt it!
if you had gone to socialism 08 like a good party drone you could have got lost and slept on a floor with me as well.
no party commitment

Angry Young Man
4th May 2009, 12:32
I was at socialism! I just didn't know how dreamy you are then. Plus I was with quite a middle-class friend, so that would have made things odd

Comrade B
4th May 2009, 15:54
Don't categorize students with rich people. Many of them are rich, which causes them to be dicks, it isn't being a student that makes them a dick.
I also experienced the being lost and getting help only from the poor when I got dumped in the middle of no where in San Fransisco by the cops. The lovely gentleman in blue decided to just dump us in an industrial area so he wouldn't have to deal with us. We entered a closing restaurant, which chased us out, wandered for a bit until we found a homeless man who gave us directions to a bus stop, on the way we encountered a taxi driver who lowered his ordinary fee nearly half for us to get us where we were going.

manic expression
4th May 2009, 16:08
I'm in college right now, and it's turning out to be quite the waste of time and money. Sure, getting a degree is fine, but life here is unbearably boring and predictable, my peers are painfully uninteresting and classes aren't very fulfilling anyway. It might not have been that bad if everyone didn't keep telling me it was going to be the best experience of my life since I could walk. Honestly, it's like a cross between high school and summer camp, and there's very little I can say in its favor.

In college, we students actually have a habit of calling everything outside of campus the "real world"; I can't wait to feel like a citizen of that world again.

Cumannach
4th May 2009, 19:23
I object to classes and lectures. I think they are 90% a waste of time in most instances.

bellyscratch
4th May 2009, 19:53
Only a few weeks left before I finish my degree in media and I don't have a clue what I want to do so I'm going to apply for an MA next year. Was thinking of doing it in politics, but now I'm leaning more towards sociology. Then after that I might just be a tramp or something

gorillafuck
4th May 2009, 21:28
I am not old enough to go to a university, but I don't want to either.

Stranger Than Paradise
4th May 2009, 21:40
I am not old enough to go to a university, but I don't want to either.

Ok so what are you going to do instead?

gorillafuck
4th May 2009, 21:45
Ok so what are you going to do instead?
You don't need to go to college to get through life. But honestly, I'm not 100% positive what I will do.

black magick hustla
4th May 2009, 22:05
I disagree college is a waste of time. Perhaps if your mind is numbed by nothing else than marxist doctrine it is. I like going to lectures (even if I rarely go) and talking to my peers about science and literature and philosophy.

manic expression
4th May 2009, 22:19
I'm glad you can talk about literature and science and philosophy with your peers, my peers talk about how drunk they were last weekend. Thanks for rubbing it in.:glare:

Kamerat
4th May 2009, 23:22
Im attending college now and some courses can be a waste of time especially courses that have something to do with economics and leadership. So much capitalist propaganda.

Holden Caulfield
4th May 2009, 23:59
Only a few weeks left before I finish my degree in media and I don't have a clue what I want to do so I'm going to apply for an MA next year. Was thinking of doing it in politics, but now I'm leaning more towards sociology. Then after that I might just be a tramp or something

Being a tramp is great, I had a lovely sleep on that bench in the sunshine:)

bcbm
5th May 2009, 00:09
Ok so what are you going to do instead?

Perhaps you've heard of "working?" Most of the world's population does it.

RHIZOMES
5th May 2009, 00:24
I'm in college right now, and it's turning out to be quite the waste of time and money. Sure, getting a degree is fine, but life here is unbearably boring and predictable, my peers are painfully uninteresting and classes aren't very fulfilling anyway. It might not have been that bad if everyone didn't keep telling me it was going to be the best experience of my life since I could walk. Honestly, it's like a cross between high school and summer camp, and there's very little I can say in its favor.

In college, we students actually have a habit of calling everything outside of campus the "real world"; I can't wait to feel like a citizen of that world again.

Your campus/university must not be very lively/intellectual. I am loving my University. Completely fits in with my cerebral interests. I get A's for writing about Marx and anti-imperialism it's great.
I'm glad you can talk about literature and science and philosophy with your peers, my peers talk about how drunk they were last weekend. Thanks for rubbing it in.:glare:

Aha I was right.

nuisance
5th May 2009, 00:37
Bunch of nerds. I'd rather smash shit up.

black magick hustla
5th May 2009, 00:40
I'm glad you can talk about literature and science and philosophy with your peers, my peers talk about how drunk they were last weekend. Thanks for rubbing it in.:glare:

i am sure there are folks with your interests. just gotta look around. the bro population is huge but i just ignore them

LOLseph Stalin
5th May 2009, 01:38
I was wondering how many of the people on here went to university or college. For those who didn't what is your job and the same for those who did? Also for those who didn't do you regret not going?

I will be going to university, but my dad claims that'll never get a job based on my interests which i'll be studying: History and Political science. He says only wealthy people can get into politics which is partly true. :p

gorillafuck
5th May 2009, 01:57
Perhaps you've heard of "working?" Most of the world's population does it.
Explain this "work" in further depth...........

bcbm
5th May 2009, 04:25
Explain this "work" in further depth...........

Go to some place for six to eight hours four to five days a week, do a bit of work but really spend most of your time figuring out places to hide, pretending to be doing something important, taking smoke breaks or eating lunch. Occasionally drinking at this place also.

Comrade B
5th May 2009, 04:29
I am going to school to get a fancy degree, with this fancy degree I will enter local politics and fix some shit up. Over 20% of minors in my town live in poverty. In the neighboring towns it is much worse, local industry is collapsing and being replaced with businesses focused on exporting everything in this town. The town is made for people from outside if it, the people that live here are owned by walmarts, wineries, and hotels. To fix this, I need to convince people I am qualified for the job with a nice piece of paper saying I am.

Dejavu
5th May 2009, 05:33
I went to University of Miami. Graduated in 05'

which doctor
5th May 2009, 17:37
I'm currently wasting away my years in an enormous, public, post-secondary education factory. If I lacked better judgment I'd probably be an English or Anthropology major, but alas, I instead am a Neuroscience major, for whatever that's worth. Hopefully I can make it out of this place with a BS and find some low paying lab job, but it sure beats working in retail or service.

Random Precision
6th May 2009, 19:11
I'm going into my second year with a double major in History and Latin American Studies. At one point I hoped to avoid academia, but that looks more and more like it's going to be my path.

Angry Young Man
6th May 2009, 19:27
Wow your degree is so cool!

Raúl Duke
6th May 2009, 23:42
Currently I'm majoring in history (with a focus on Modern Latin-American history, Modern European History, and maybe some knowledge, of modern history, on Japan and the Middle East. Yes, in a sense, I'm getting into modern world history) and going to minor on sociology and anthropology


I'm in college right now, and it's turning out to be quite the waste of time and money. Sure, getting a degree is fine, but life here is unbearably boring and predictable, my peers are painfully uninteresting and classes aren't very fulfilling anyway. It might not have been that bad if everyone didn't keep telling me it was going to be the best experience of my life since I could walk. Honestly, it's like a cross between high school and summer camp, and there's very little I can say in its favor.



Some days I feel the same way as you do, sometimes I felt like I learn nothing new in classes.
Although I have meet quite interesting people on college and have opportunities to do some interesting things.

Perhaps the upcoming next semester will be more interesting.


i am sure there are folks with your interests. just gotta look around. the bro population is huge but i just ignore them

I agree, this is good advice. Just ignore them and try to find the right people.

AlMack
7th May 2009, 01:58
im 27 & going uni in september
haha left it late
first in the family!

Robespierre2.0
7th May 2009, 15:09
I'm finishing up my junior year in a music degree. I've been a good student up to this point, but this semester my grades took a nosedive, along with the rest of my life. I'm hoping changing majors will help, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to be miserable no matter what happens.

School is the biggest scam I ever fell for, by the way. Unless you enjoy paying $2.55 for a chicken sandwich and talking to the most banal wastes of carbon alive about the superbowl and their 3 6 mafia ringtones, I suggest you just go get a job.

Bilan
7th May 2009, 15:12
I got to uni at the moment (First year) studying sociology and politics, and I work as well. It makes for a wonderfully exhausting mixture!

Rawthentic
7th May 2009, 17:45
I attend a polytechnic university and and am majoring in social sciences. I was going to switch to sociology as a major, but I felt that social sciences would be better simply because it incorporates sociology, anthropology, and some other things. Better to be holistic no?

The bad thing about here is that since its like one of the top schools in the nation for engineering and architecture (and sometimes agriculture), liberal arts and humanities majors are pretty low key.

I also dont know what the hell Im gonna do after. The somber posts here have dampened my vision. But its true. Idk what the hell Im gonna do with a social sciences major. And academia? man....

good luck to all students.