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peaccenicked
24th September 2002, 01:18
Punk Is Dead
Yes that’s right, punk is dead, it’s just another cheap product for
the consumer’s head. Bubblegum rock on plastic transistors,
schoolboy sedition backed by big time promoters. CBS promote
the Clash, but it ain’t for revolution, it’s just for cash. Punk
became a fashion just like hippy used to be and it ain’t got a
thing to do with you or me.

Movements are systems and systems kill. Movements are
expressions of the public will. Punk became a movement cos we
all felt lost, but the leaders sold out and now we all pay the cost.
Punk narcissism was a social napalm, Steve Jones started
doing real harm. Preaching revolution, anarchy and change as
he sucked from the system that had given him his name.

Well I’m tired of looking through shit stained glass, tired of
staring up a superstar’s arse, I’ve got an arse and crap and a
name, I’m just waiting for my fifteen minutes fame. Steve Jones
you’re napalm, if you’re so pretty why do you smarm? Patti
Smith, you’re napalm, you write with you’re hand but it’s
Rimbaud’s arm.

And me, yes, I, do I want to burn? Is there something I can learn?
Do I need a business man to promote my angle? Can I resist the
carrots that fame and fortune dangle? I see the velvet zippies in
their bondage gear, the social elite with safetypins in their ear, I
watch and understand that it don’t mean a thing, the scorpions
might attack, but the system’s stole the sting.

PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD. PUNK IS DEAD

Maaja
24th September 2002, 06:44
Punk may be dead but it still lives in history.

peaccenicked
24th September 2002, 15:08
Punk is not dead. Crass were an anarchist punk band
moaning about 'sell outs' and how they cheapened the
message of getting poor kids together to make their own sound.

PunkRawker677
24th September 2002, 19:21
Punk is not dead. Punk music has turned into some new trendy bullshit that i refuse to even call punk. But the classic punk, and some great newer punk bands who do not seem to get noticed, still hold punk culture together.

libereco
24th September 2002, 19:39
Dead Kennedys - Chickenshit Conformist

Punk's not dead
It just deserves to die
When it becomes another stale cartoon
A close-minded, self-centered social club
Ideas don't matter, it's who you know

If the music's gotten boring
It's because of the people
Who want everyone to sound the same

Who drive bright people out
Of our so-called scene
'Til all that's left
Is just a meaningless fad

Hardcore formulas are dogshit
Change and caring are what's real
Is this a state of mind
Or just another label

The joy and hope of an alternative
Have become its own cliche
A hairstyle's not a lifestyle
Imagine Sid Vicious at 35

Who needs a scene
Scared to love and to feel
Judging everythng
By loud fast rules appeal

Who played last night?
"I don't know, I forgot.
But diving off the stage
Was a lot of fun."

CHORUS
So eager to please
Peer pressure decrees
So eager to please
Peer pressure decrees
Make the same old mistakes
Again and again,
Chickenshit conformist
Like your parents

What's ripped us apart even more than drugs
Are the thieves and the goddamn liars
Flipping people off when they share their stuff
When someone falls are there any friends?

Harder core than thou for a year or two
Then it's time to get a real job
Others stay home, it's no fun to go out
When the gigs are wrecked by gangs and thugs

When the thugs form bands, look who gets record deals
>From New York metal labels looking to scam
Who sign the most racist queerbashing bands they can find
To make a buck revving kids up for war

Walk tall, act small
Only as tough as gang approval
Unity is bullshit
When it's under someone's fat boot

Where's the common cause
Too many factions
Safely sulk in their shells
Agree with us on everything
Or we won't help with anythng
That kind of attitude
JUst makes a split grow wider

Guess who's laughing while the world explodes
When we're all crybabies
Who fight best among ouselves

CHORUS

That farty old rock and roll attitude's back
"It's competition, man, we wanna break big."
Who needs friends when the money's good
That's right, the '70s are back.

Cock-rock metal's like a bad laxative
It just don't move me, ya know?
The music's OK when there's more ideas than solos
Do we rally need the attitude too?

Shedding thin skin too quickly
As a fan it disappoints me
Same old stupid sexist lyrics
Or is Satan all you can think of?

Crossover is just another word
For lack of ideas
Maybe what we need
Are more trolls under the bridge
Wil the metalheads finally learn something-
Or will the punks throw away their education?

No one's ever the best
Once they believe their own press
"Maturing" don't mean rehashing
Mistakes of the past

CHORUS

The more things change
The more they stay the same
We can't grow
When we won't criticize ourselves
The '60s weren't all failure
It's the '70s that stunk
As the clock ticks we dig the same hole

Music scenes ain't real life
They won't get rid of the bomb
Won't eliminate rape
Or bring down the banks
Any kind of real change
Takes more time and work
Than changing channels on a TV set

CHORUS
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peaccenicked
26th September 2002, 02:11
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/critic/feat...,743115,00.html (http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/critic/feature/0,1169,743115,00.html)
Death is not the end.

canikickit
26th September 2002, 02:28
Ir's all good, music can never die. MTV sure is trying though.
I hate the commercialism.

LeninCCCP
1st October 2002, 02:43
Leave it to MTV for awhile tough i thought they were going to destroy Rock and Heavy Metal but they moved on to Punk before they did any damage. Thank you Avril Lavigne!!!

CallMeGoggleHead
1st October 2002, 02:46
*sighs*
Sorry ladies and gents but punk is definitely dead! I think Avril Lavinge (sp?) REALLY killed it, but it had been dead for a long time. I am so sick of it. It sounds like a rabid cat bumping inbetween garbage cans *grrr*

canikickit
1st October 2002, 03:05
Callmegoggle head, it is you who is dead.

I can still here the Clash's song, Rudie Can't Fail, and a couple of others at the touch of a button. Music can't die. Only cats bumping between garbage cans and people who compare them to music can.

bluerev002
9th October 2002, 02:38
Punk is dead. all the posers out there sucked it dry. and all the big corporations killed it too, especially dickies. they made it seems as if punks MUST wear black dikies to be considered a punk. sorry to say, but punk got killed by the posers. it died from the inside.

may it rest in piece.

LeninCCCP
9th October 2002, 02:55
Theres nothing wrong with dickies its the cloths of blue collar workers.

PunkRawker677
9th October 2002, 03:00
How does a type of music die? Does it not continue to live in the fans? Does music die when 'posers' accept it as a mainstream fashion? no. everyone who is saying this is fucking wrong. the 'posers' are NOT punks. they merely try to come of as punks. you are the retards for seeing them as punks. Music can't die. and punk, as music, will never die.

canikickit
9th October 2002, 03:02
I can still here the Clash's song, Rudie Can't Fail, and a couple of others at the touch of a button. Music can't die. Only cats bumping between garbage cans and people who compare them to music can.

Lefty
9th October 2002, 03:11
I dont think punk is dead, there are plenty of good punk bands left. And even if there are 10 posers to 1 true punk, then that means the movement gained a new guy or girl. I doubt the ratio is even that big... Its not dead, its not dying, its sick. Avril Lavigne is preaching being different or whatever; she obviously doesnt believe it, but somebody who hears it might. And that might start them thinking.

PunkRawker677
9th October 2002, 03:17
I don't remember who said this, but here:

"Punks not dead, its in a coma"

libereco
9th October 2002, 13:32
punk is not a music-genre.

mujer revolucionaria
9th October 2002, 13:57
punk is deffo not dead, there are still plenty of good underground punk scenes that are thriving away from the bullshit of MTV and corporate radio. These scenes are still breeding good, healthy, non commercial dissent and even though I am not involved with my local scene like I was 10-15 years ago it is still around.

What you see on MTV is just fashion.....it is NOT punk

And yeah....I dont know who mentioned Crass, but they were GREAT! I highly recommend The Feeding of the 5000 or Penis Envy!!