Lampard gives a radio wanker an earful

[Holden Caulfield]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8017456.stm

Im all with Frank here.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

good bloke.

[Dr Mindbender]

The overpaid arguing with the overpaid.

Both of them bore me in equal measure.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

The overpaid arguing with the overpaid.

Both of them bore me in equal measure.


Because things like this are totally useless to combat dolts who think that anyone who has a divorce is a "slut" or "lazy" and dosent give a shit about their kids :rolleyes:

[Holden Caulfield]

I would like to see any working class lad turn down a life time of easy money in return for doing something that they enjoy.

Do footballers not sell their 'labour'? Are they not treated as commodities?

Yes they are overpaid but why would they say no to such wages, dont hate the players hate the game (in this scenario).

[Dr Mindbender]

Because things like this are totally useless to combat dolts who think that anyone who has a divorce is a "slut" or "lazy" and dosent give a shit about their kids :rolleyes:

For the most part, people arent interested in the maritial circumstances of ordinary people. This media circus simply feeds off the cult of celebrity worship that workers are generically programmed and/or expected to endure.

I don't care who Frank Lampard is or isnt sleeping with, please don't expose me to it. It's only an issue because the media make it one and we lap it up.

[Dr Mindbender]

I would like to see any working class lad turn down a life time of easy money in return for doing something that they enjoy.

Do footballers not sell their 'labour'? Are they not treated as commodities?

Yes they are overpaid but why would they say no to such wages, dont hate the players hate the game (in this scenario).

I don't hate footballers, i just hate the institutions that expect me to take interest in their love lives.

And yeah, footballers do sell their labour, in as much as the CEO's of big companies sell their 'managerial initiative' and 'leadership skill'. Same argument.

Another point, footballers arent wage slaves because they arent in co-ercive circumstances so please dont equate them to workers in the conventional sense. A wealthy professional footballer could retire and live of the royalties of his autobiography anytime he wanted, a normal worker does not have this choice. A footballer is doing the job he wants by his own availability of choice, a toilet cleaner does his job out of precisely the reverse situation so frankly i find your analogy insulting.

Can you imagine how insane it would be if the media paid attention to the divorce or break up circumstances of 'celebrity' plumbers and electricians?

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For the most part, people arent interested in the maritial circumstances of ordinary people.

Obviously you have never seen parents whom are not currently married receive abuse from idiots.

[Dr Mindbender]

Obviously you have never seen parents whom are not currently married receive abuse from idiots.

coming from a single parent family myself, i resent that.

My point is, in this day and age marital chaos is almost an accepted norm. I'm talking specifically about the public fascination for celebrity cases.

Do. not. want.

[Holden Caulfield]

US is becoming the Oi Oi Oi of social issues :lol:

[Dr Mindbender]

US is becoming the Oi Oi Oi of social issues :lol:


why, because i can see the difference between a premier league footballer and a roadsweep?

[Wanted Man]

I'll never understand why the English media choose to intrude into footballers' private lives. Criticise their performances, attack their careers and their wages, whatever. But stop peeking through their keyholes.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

coming from a single parent family myself, i resent that.

Boo hoo , tons of people I know are from single parent families including myself, you do not get the special privilege of being able to pretend discrimination against single parents does not exist (Expecially in more rural areas)



I'm talking specifically about the public fascination for celebrity cases.



They sell papers because they are a distractions from the readers own shitty lives. I dont think thats right but thats what happens.

[Module]

Another point, footballers arent wage slaves because they arent in co-ercive circumstances so please dont equate them to workers in the conventional sense. A wealthy professional footballer could retire and live of the royalties of his autobiography anytime he wanted, a normal worker does not have this choice. A footballer is doing the job he wants by his own availability of choice, a toilet cleaner does his job out of precisely the reverse situation so frankly i find your analogy insulting.Why is it insulting? I don't have an issue with the bourgeoisie because they are wealthy, but because they get their wealth by exploiting other people. That's not to say that footballers aren't ridiculously overpaid; they are. But there isn't an objective standard of acceptable income for anyone in any sort of work. Individual workers aren't really better or worse than one another on the basis of how much they happen to earn.
No, I most certainly don't think footballers deserve the amount of money they have. But I don't think I could say, honestly, what amount any person deserves for the work that they do.
But basically what I wanted to say was ... don't be so bloody precious. Same goes for this;

coming from a single parent family myself, i resent that.But when you say that does that mean you agree that what Comrade-Joe said was right?

[F9]

Yeah totally with Lampard too, that guy was a complete idiot!I wouldnt get on such conversation, i would just tell him to fuck off and get a life of his own to comment!Idiots "working" on others people personal lifes, gishh!
Lampard is overpaid, but that doesnt mean that everyone could fuck with his life, and lets be honest here, if any of us had the opportunity to do a job like playing football and getting paid, no one would say no.

Please cut the crap and stay on topic btw!Trashed offtopic "discussions"

Fuserg9:star:

[ls]

Yeah totally with Lampard too, that guy was a complete idiot!I wouldnt get on such conversation, i would just tell him to fuck off and get a life of his own to comment!Idiots "working" on others people personal lifes, gishh!

And as Joe said, it's good because it's against discrimination of people who had to leave their children/wife/husband not necessarily by any mistake they made - which is not ok, it should be fought wherever possible.


Lampard is overpaid, but that doesnt mean that everyone could fuck with his life, and lets be honest here, if any of us had the opportunity to do a job like playing football and getting paid, no one would say no.

That's exactly right.

[Devrim]

I'll never understand why the English media choose to intrude into footballers' private lives. Criticise their performances, attack their careers and their wages, whatever. But stop peeking through their keyholes.

Oh my god, I think that they are quite restrained in England. You see Turkish TV.

Devrim

[Wanted Man]

Haha, it's all relative, isn't it? :lol: In the Netherlands, managers and players already complain when journalists dare to question their tactics, their results, etc. Especially guys like Van Gaal are always *****ing about how the media are out to get him. To which they respond: "We're relatively decent, just compare it to England, where they'll dig into your private life."

So what's it like in Turkey?

[Devrim]

I think there is just more of an obsession with celebrity and celebrity's private lives in general. There are lots of gossip type programmes on TV, and lots of that sort of news in the papers.

Devrim