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20acresandadonkey
24th April 2009, 02:27
I come in peace, waving a white flag,
But only 'cause I don't have a skull & bones.
I'm unarmed but fast,
And I know I'm being watched -
So don't take anything I say too seriously.
I don't mean to offend
You too much, only to the point that
You want to chop off my head but
Before the axe comes down.
And I ain't no poet
Wouldn't you know it.
Hardy freaking har.
Oh I'll bet all you Brits will despise me
But what the hey -
Low population density leads to insolence.
And Communism, by the way, is just another name for government.
And they all suck.
Communist Theory
24th April 2009, 03:14
Welcome btw do you even have a understanding of Communism and what form of it we strive to achieve? Or are you thinking of Socialism when you made the government sucks statement?
20acresandadonkey
24th April 2009, 03:44
I did not know that this website had an functioning organization with the intent of "achieving" something. I thought it was a forum for individuals.
Of course I can't know what "form" of communism you wish to achieve. Karl Marx wrote his old red book two centuries ago. He never contemplated the way we live. Therefore, every political belief system goes through changes. And communism has gone through a bunch of them.
Hopefully you mean a stateless society consisting of a bunch of people who basically do what they're good at, benefitting each other endlessly, and get what they need to survive. If it is the Marxist ideal, there are no supervisors, no congressmen, no bosses or pensions or health insurance. You don't need any of that.
Is that what you want?
commyrebel
24th April 2009, 03:50
I did not know that this website had an functioning organization with the intent of "achieving" something. I thought it was a forum for individuals.
Of course I can't know what "form" of communism you wish to achieve. Karl Marx wrote his old red book two centuries ago. He never contemplated the way we live. Therefore, every political belief system goes through changes. And communism has gone through a bunch of them.
Hopefully you mean a stateless society consisting of a bunch of people who basically do what they're good at, benefitting each other endlessly, and get what they need to survive. If it is the Marxist ideal, there are no supervisors, no congressmen, no bosses or pensions or health insurance. You don't need any of that.
Is that what you want? Yes for most of yes this what we want but some of us have realized that the stateless society must be achieved after the government has been established as socialist that is on that pathway to this then it is the teaching of humans to accept this and some time.
Communist Theory
24th April 2009, 04:01
I did not know that this website had an functioning organization with the intent of "achieving" something. I thought it was a forum for individuals.
Well this is a forum for Revolutionary Leftists so yeah I'm assuming the members want something achieved.
Well the simple way of answering your question the form of Communism I want would have to be "For each according to his ability, to each according his needs."
And I'm sure we would need healthcare. No bosses because of no classes so out goes the idea of politcal parties and such.
20acresandadonkey
24th April 2009, 04:08
Well this is a forum for Revolutionary Leftists so yeah I'm assuming the members want something achieved.
Well the simple way of answering your question the form of Communism I want would have to be "For each according to his ability, to each according his needs."
And I'm sure we would need healthcare. No bosses because of no classes so out goes the idea of politcal parties and such.
Ah, but "leftist" is pretty broad and I've already been proclaimed a capitalist.
Har har har.
You are some of the most reactionary communists I've ever met.
Isn't that sort of a contradiction?
And I guess I've just known too many human beings to believe that every person would put in according to his ability. Most people I know would simply milk everything they could get.
But then the communist counters that such irrational consumption would be overcome by the enlightment of a truly collective and equal society wherein all needs are met.
But then I say what are we going to do with the Republican Party? Send them to Cuba?
And no, you wouldn't need health insurance, and healthcare wouldn't even be free in communism - it would be a given. The first and most inalienable right of any human being - life!
commyrebel
24th April 2009, 04:17
we see over the milking of everything and want to spreads it so other humans can live better
20acresandadonkey
24th April 2009, 04:24
we see over the milking of everything and want to spreads it so other humans can live better
You want to spread the milking so other humans can live better?
Won't that just mean that everybody in my neighborhood steals all the copper out my house?
I mean, there's only so much to go around.
Communist Theory
24th April 2009, 04:32
Ah, but "leftist" is pretty broad and I've already been proclaimed a capitalist.
Har har har.
You are some of the most reactionary communists I've ever met.
Isn't that sort of a contradiction?
And I guess I've just known too many human beings to believe that every person would put in according to his ability. Most people I know would simply milk everything they could get.
But then the communist counters that such irrational consumption would be overcome by the enlightment of a truly collective and equal society wherein all needs are met.
But then I say what are we going to do with the Republican Party? Send them to Cuba?
And no, you wouldn't need health insurance, and healthcare wouldn't even be free in communism - it would be a given. The first and most inalienable right of any human being - life!
You seem to provoke the reactionary out of us.
20acresandadonkey
24th April 2009, 04:39
You seem to provoke the reactionary out of us.
Never knew it was that easy to stir a bunch of commies into a hornet's nest!
I mean, I'm used to pissing conservatives off in droves and probably having them run to church to pray for my soul and humanity. But the most liberal people I know besides myself are my parents, who favor Hillary Clinton.
Eh gads.
And in case you're wondering, I'm no kid. I'm thirty-something, have one degree in political science and another in education, and am really up too late.
It's good to have found like-minded people, or in any event people more like-minded than the droves of dittoheads and Bush/Cheney-apologists I'm constantly surrounded by.
Communist Theory
24th April 2009, 04:44
I was joking.
So you're thirty something and haven't found a label for yourself?
LOLseph Stalin
24th April 2009, 06:25
Welcome :)
Karl Marx wrote his old red book two centuries ago.
Also, I recommend you read that Red book written by Marx two centuries ago.
ZeroNowhere
24th April 2009, 11:48
Welcome. Also, leave the hall.
Communist Theory
24th April 2009, 21:38
Also, I recommend you read that Red book written by Marx two centuries ago.
He has. Several times it would seem.
Lynx
24th April 2009, 22:10
Welcome home ;)
20acresandadonkey
24th April 2009, 23:43
Welcome. Also, leave the hall.
What is leave the hall?
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