Run down of all the great hip hop artists

[deadpool 52]

I would have to say the best is Tupac, a true visionary.

Also:

A Tribe Called Quest
Slum Village
Dr Dre
Snoop Dogg
Nas
Eric B. and Rakim

I am probably missing some, though.

[BOZG]

Dre and Snoop....hell no
Nas..his first album was good but not an all time great

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from deadpool 52 on 2:42 am on Sep. 1, 2002

I would have to say the best is Tupac, a true visionary.

Also:

A Tribe Called Quest
Slum Village
Dr Dre
Snoop Dogg
Nas
Eric B. and Rakim

I am probably missing some, though.


I'm gonna disagree

Tribe Called Questr
The Roots
Mos Def
Slum Village
Talib Kweli
Arrested Development
The Coup(of what I've heard)
Aesop Rock (of What I've heard)
TuPac
Common


I can't believe you don't have Mos Def on there.

by the way I have no more respect for Nas..the man fuckin signed with murder inc.

[Lardlad95]

Actually some of Tupacs stuff is ovverated I think.

Personally I think he was a better poet than he was a rapper..thats just me personally

Now I know some of you are gonna be angry and want to kill me but remember killing isn't the way

[BOZG]

Personally I think he was a better poet than he was a rapper..thats just me personally

I agree. I notice that all his best songs are the ones that fake heads hate. The songs he released are all very overrated.

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from BornOfZapatasGuns on 3:26 am on Sep. 1, 2002

Personally I think he was a better poet than he was a rapper..thats just me personally

I agree. I notice that all his best songs are the ones that fake heads hate. The songs he released are all very overrated.


yeah I believe the songs he released were for his commercial image.

Its kinda like Eminem

The songs you don't hear are actually quite good.

But the songs he makes videos and singles for are straight sewage...I mean it reaks of awfulness

[deadpool 52]

I say Tupac is a great rapper because of his potency, not necessarily his rapping ability.

Yeah, I do not understand what Nas is doing at all right now.

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from deadpool 52 on 4:33 pm on Sep. 1, 2002

I say Tupac is a great rapper because of his potency, not necessarily his rapping ability.

Yeah, I do not understand what Nas is doing at all right now.

yes thats why I also like tupac, but I feel Mos Def has great potency and rapping skills

I do respect Pac however


I think Naz has developed alzheimers or something

[InnocentCivilian]

it seems that most people have gone towards the studio gangster image! snoop and dre are nothing when compared to the beastie boys, public enemy, mos def and KRS-One. Tupac Shakur could have been a fantastic icon for black america but in my opinion i think he was to caught in the gang violence image when he got together with Suge Knight. People like Nas and Ja Rule are just other commercial versions of Tupac. They aren't and never will be original...

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from InnocentCivilian on 7:13 pm on Sep. 1, 2002
it seems that most people have gone towards the studio gangster image! snoop and dre are nothing when compared to the beastie boys, public enemy, mos def and KRS-One. Tupac Shakur could have been a fantastic icon for black america but in my opinion i think he was to caught in the gang violence image when he got together with Suge Knight. People like Nas and Ja Rule are just other commercial versions of Tupac. They aren't and never will be original...

I agree about everything except the Beastie boys

I like them and I respect what they did for Hip Hop

but I'm not sure if their lyrical skills were as good as their accomplishments

[BOZG]

I agree about everything except the Beastie boys

I like them and I respect what they did for Hip Hop

but I'm not sure if their lyrical skills were as good as their accomplishments

BB are the type of hip hop for just chilling at a party or shit like that. They're not a great advancement in the music though.

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from BornOfZapatasGuns on 8:59 pm on Sep. 1, 2002

I agree about everything except the Beastie boys

I like them and I respect what they did for Hip Hop

but I'm not sure if their lyrical skills were as good as their accomplishments

BB are the type of hip hop for just chilling at a party or shit like that. They're not a great advancement in the music though.

but they exposed more people to it.

Its was however a mixed blessing...both a curse and a blessing

[canikickit]

Company Flow
Public Enemy
Ras Kass
Xzibit
Pharoahe Monch

[BOZG]

KRS-One
Gza
Dead Prez



Its was however a mixed blessing...both a curse and a blessing

That's kinda like when Eminem and Pac became big over here, there was a huge increase in the number of people listening to rap and shit but for all the wrong reasons. No one understands real hip hop, they're just into all the gangsta shit and hip POP like Nelly.

[deadpool 52]

Shit, I cannot believe I forgot Public Enemy.

Any songs of Mos Def you recomend?

(Edited by deadpool 52 at 3:36 am on Sep. 2, 2002)

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from deadpool 52 on 10:29 pm on Sep. 1, 2002
Shit, I cannot believe I forgot Public Enemy.

Any songs of Mos Def you recomend?

(Edited by deadpool 52 at 3:36 am on Sep. 2, 2002)



Theives in the Night by Mos Def and Talib kweli...better lyrics than beat

[Sasafrás]

Mos Def: "Umi Says" is one of his best songs. "Thieves in the Night" has the best lyrics I've ever heard. "Ms. Fat Booty" is fun.

Common's a pretty damn good artist. :) Thanks for mentioning him, A.

[Spiritual Minded]

Landland he didn't sign a RECORDING DEAL though i heard he made a song with Ja Rule (lol)... it's silly sayin you won't support Nas cuz you'll have a Murda Inc logo on the album TOGETHER will an Ill Will logo and a Columbia logo... i don't think Nas will change his musical style... i mean, he know he is as commercial as he can get without losing everything...


My two favorite Hiphop Poets: Lauryn Hill & KRS-ONE

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from Spiritual Minded on 7:40 pm on Sep. 3, 2002
Landland he didn't sign a RECORDING DEAL though i heard he made a song with Ja Rule (lol)... it's silly sayin you won't support Nas cuz you'll have a Murda Inc logo on the album TOGETHER will an Ill Will logo and a Columbia logo... i don't think Nas will change his musical style... i mean, he know he is as commercial as he can get without losing everything...


My two favorite Hiphop Poets: Lauryn Hill & KRS-ONE

but if you look at what murda inc puts you out yo have got to know its gonna effect his music for the worse

[canikickit]

Illmatic is a brilliant album. The poor guy just went crazy. I blame puffy.

[BigBlakAf]

Yes! Blame Puffy! But yeah it justs feels funny with Nas goin to Murda, and personally although Stillmatic was okay, I don't think he has anything near an Illmatic left in him. We'll have to see. Stay tuned

[canikickit]

I'll admit it, I'm completely oblivious to what is going on in Hip Hop right about now. But Nas was straight Pop after Illmatic (to me, at least). And whoever this Mura Inc. crowd are, they sound pretty shit. LardLad, my Hip Hop tastes are pretty much the same as yours, it would appear. Does that means yours also, BigBlack(like the name, by the by)?

[BOZG]

And whoever this Mura Inc. crowd are, they sound pretty shit.

That's the label Ja "I'm shit" Rule is on.

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from BornOfZapatasGuns on 10:27 pm on Sep. 5, 2002

And whoever this Mura Inc. crowd are, they sound pretty shit.

That's the label Ja "I'm shit" Rule is on.


Exactly

[canikickit]

Ja Rule! Enough said.

But Nas has been shit for years.

RA the Rugged Man is another good artist.
and Shabaam Shadeeq

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from canikickit on 12:12 am on Sep. 6, 2002
Ja Rule! Enough said.

But Nas has been shit for years.

RA the Rugged Man is another good artist.
and Shabaam Shadeeq

Nas isn't so bad but he's been acting like a jack ass recently

[Spiritual Minded]

No blame Biggie... No better yet blame Biggie's fans for hyping him!! Basically all these people are just trying to follow his footsteps... he must the most overrated rapper ever, it just makes me mad to hear his name... lol... he laid the Blueprint for wack records and Jay-Z and Nas is just trying to pull the same thing off... some tracks for the streets, some for the dancefloor, etc...

(Edited by Spiritual Minded at 7:08 am on Sep. 7, 2002)

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from Spiritual Minded on 7:07 am on Sep. 7, 2002
No blame Biggie... No better yet blame Biggie's fans for hyping him!! Basically all these people are just trying to follow his footsteps... he must the most overrated rapper ever, it just makes me mad to hear his name... lol... he laid the Blueprint for wack records and Jay-Z and Nas is just trying to pull the same thing off... some tracks for the streets, some for the dancefloor, etc...

(Edited by Spiritual Minded at 7:08 am on Sep. 7, 2002)


You did hear about how they finally connected him to Pac's death

[deadpool 52]

Also forgot about De La Soul.

I still like Wu-Tang clan.

I downloaded that song, "Thieves in the Night." Fucking genius, man, thanks.

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from deadpool 52 on 8:52 pm on Sep. 7, 2002

Also forgot about De La Soul.

I still like Wu-Tang clan.

I downloaded that song, "Thieves in the Night." Fucking genius, man, thanks.

told you

[BOZG]

I can't believe I forgot the almighty Big Daddy Kane.

[BOZG]

From what songs of his I've heard, Michael Franti is a pretty good lyricist.

[Lardlad95]

One thing that pisses me off is how underrated Dialated People are.

Iris Science, DJ Babu are incredible....Evidence is straight.


More people need to get to know them

[BOZG]

Evidence brings the group down. His lyrics are too simple, there's no real intelligence in them.

[Lardlad95]

hey atleast he is good at making beats

so he can't be all bad

[No Food Allowed]

You know, I actually liked Ja Rule when he first came out because he had some nice party songs. For example, he had "Holla Holla" which was always played at clubs and was always requested. Then when he made it big, he began putting out not so good music. And Nas didnt sign with Murder Inc. He's not that stupid. (lol)

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from No Food Allowed on 8:51 pm on Sep. 8, 2002
You know, I actually liked Ja Rule when he first came out because he had some nice party songs. For example, he had "Holla Holla" which was always played at clubs and was always requested. Then when he made it big, he began putting out not so good music. And Nas didnt sign with Murder Inc. He's not that stupid. (lol)

let me reiterate...Ja Rule is sewage, he was always sewage...he will always be sewage.

He style is so...annoying

[deadpool 52]

Thieves in the Night epitomizes the black's situation in the U$.

[Raztro]

Quote: from Lardlad95 on 3:19 am on Sep. 1, 2002

Quote: from deadpool 52 on 2:42 am on Sep. 1, 2002

I would have to say the best is Tupac, a true visionary.

Also:

A Tribe Called Quest
Slum Village
Dr Dre
Snoop Dogg
Nas
Eric B. and Rakim

I am probably missing some, though.


I'm gonna disagree

Tribe Called Questr
The Roots
Mos Def
Slum Village
Talib Kweli
Arrested Development
The Coup(of what I've heard)
Aesop Rock (of What I've heard)
TuPac
Common


I can't believe you don't have Mos Def on there.

by the way I have no more respect for Nas..the man fuckin signed with murder inc.


deffinately the coup...

[Sasafrás]

Quote: from deadpool 52 on 7:53 pm on Sep. 12, 2002

Thieves in the Night epitomizes the black's situation in the U$.Deadpool, I fucking love that song.

Everyone I know who's heard it has done nothing but praise the lyrics. It's beautiful.

(Edited by La Rainbeaux at 7:59 pm on Sep. 12, 2002)

[soul esperado]

- by the way I have no more respect for Nas..the man fuckin signed with murder inc. -

you could never be more right. i used to think nas was an okay lyricist, but shit, what are you thinkin? and it IS true, he did sign. murder inc. is the perfect road to doom.

my list:

mos def
common
talib kweli
tupac
notorious b.i.g.
the roots
jeru the damaja - he's alright.
gang starr
cee-lo

[Jazzy Bitnik]

Quote: from La Rainbeaux on 1:07 am on Sep. 2, 2002
Mos Def: "Umi Says" is one of his best songs.

I totally agree, "Umi Says" is one of my alltime favourites.

I didn´t notice anyone mentioning Saul Williams, he´s got great lyrics and nice rhythms too. Watch the movie Slam! for more about him. http://akas.imdb.com/Title?0139615

np. Shabazz the Disciple - Death Be The Penalty

[Lardlad95]

I've heard of Saul Williams but i doubt I'll listen to him.

I think he did something for cartoon network so he has already lost a couple o' ounces of street cred.

I hope i'm wrong though

[abstractmentality]

Quote: from Jazzy Bitnik on 3:17 pm on Sep. 21, 2002
[I didn´t notice anyone mentioning Saul Williams, he´s got great lyrics and nice rhythms too. Watch the movie Slam! for more about him. http://akas.imdb.com/Title?0139615



Saul Williams is fucking great! the movie slam is also pretty good. do you know where i can get a copy of pure slam poetry? i saw one in my english class last year, and havent been able to find a copy of anything close to it since.

he and a few other slam poets were in south africa (im not sure i have the location right) a while back doing poetry for some of the elementary students, trying to get them into poetry.

EDIT: i just found the video i want, so nevermind the question i had up there.

(Edited by abstractmentality at 4:22 pm on Sep. 22, 2002)

[Chasovoy]

I like these:

FiSZ
Grammatik
2Pac
Mos Def
Guru (GangStarr)

[GWF]

I give you a top ten list, I'm more into ragga/dancehall at the moment you guys should check that out, it's da illest shit at da moment.

1. T.O.K.
2. Bounty Killer
3. Beenie Man
4. Afu-Ra
5. Mos Def
6. Company Flow
7. Postmen
8. E-Life
9. DMX
10. Talib Kweli

You're right Ja Rule and his commercial murder inc. crap stinks!

Yo Lardlad95 I changed it, thanx for your sharp comment though.


(Edited by GWF at 11:06 pm on Sep. 23, 2002)


(Edited by GWF at 10:34 am on Sep. 24, 2002)

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from GWF on 10:02 pm on Sep. 23, 2002
I give you a top ten list, I'm more into ragga/dancehall at the moment you guys should check that out, it's da illest shit at da moment.

1. T.O.K.
2. Bounty Killer
3. Beenie Man
4. Afu-Ra
5. Mos Def
6. Company Flow
7. Postmen
8. E-Life
9. DMX
10. Talib Kwelib

You're right Ja Rule and his commercial murder inc. crap!



(Edited by GWF at 11:06 pm on Sep. 23, 2002)



its Talib Kweli not Kwelib...yea I know I sound like a dickhead perfectionist but thats just me


anyway speakin of mos Def

he has a new movie commin out called Brown Sugar