Survivalists

[Poison]

Hope this is in the right forum. And pardon me if this turns into a rant.

Survivalists have got to be the most stuck up, self-absorbed, easily manipulated morons on the planet. Most of them encompass everything wrong with capitalism and right wing ideology and religion.

Nearly all of them fit into the stereotype and hell, they give the stereotype shame for underrating their stupidity.

Look into any forum of theirs and you'll see the typical right wing drivel. I've honestly seen posts saying and other posts agreeing with that saints fought dinosaurs.

Being walking stereotypes themselves, it's not surprising that few of them are capable of thinking in anything but terms of stereotypes. Disagree with one point of their right-wing ideology but agree with the rest and immediately you're a "damn Obama-lovin', big government, commie, gun hatin', gay, black, big city, college-indoctrinated libruhl!"

They're so dense that even when you agree with an attack on Obama, they still apply that stereotype to you and claim you hate Obama. They're that fucking stupid.

There's a few who are remotely rational, and even fewer who don't fit the stereotype like myself. That doesn't necessarily mean they're left-wingers either, just not complete idiots.

It's enough to drive a poor girl insane.

What gets me is that survivalism isn't a right-wing ideology, it's just an idea that you stay prepared for disasters. But the amount of easily frightened, tin-foil-hat wearing morons that are attracted to it is incredible.

Even worse are the number of them who happily admit to being more than willing to hoard their supplies or kill to keep themselves and their family happy. While there's a few who I've seen speak out against this idea, the vast majority of them think it's perfectly okay to shoot someone for not sharing after a disaster (of course, then they ***** because they think communists would do the same...gotta love that logic).

Any of you know of any non-crazy survivalist boards or sites? Have been considering starting a blog to bring together other members of a few survivalist boards who've vented their frustration with the insanity. There seriously needs to be some tinfoil-less resources for friendly, compassionate, and sane survivalists.

[Lynx]

Well, if they weren't as alienated from mainstream society as they claim to be, they would be less inclined to hoard guns and other supplies and live in bunkers.

Just separate practical information from self-reinforcing ideology. Then you can be self-sufficient / survivalist without the insanity.

[Ele'ill]

Just remember - Don't get off the boat.

[Sean]

Any of you know of any non-crazy survivalist boards or sites? Have been considering starting a blog to bring together other members of a few survivalist boards who've vented their frustration with the insanity. There seriously needs to be some tinfoil-less resources for friendly, compassionate, and sane survivalists.

I don't agree that Survivalism is necessarily a right wing thing, and I wouldn't even mock people that want to defend a little plot of land against the tax man.

I guess the difference between a right winger and a left winger is one of fear. Even at our own ridiculous fringe primmies content themselves to try and live off the grid as much as possible, without adapting a seige mentality. Much as it pains me to advocate such people, they generally do have good resources for independant living without tips on how to properly set a minefield in your back garden to keep solicitors at bay. Self sufficiency is something that interests me too, so if you find any good websites or articles that arent about hiding in bombshelters waiting for the rapture, do share.

I'd recommend the Foxfire books (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxfire_books) (which I had until my laptop messed up a month or so ago). They're old timey, but teach you lots of cool things sans paranoia, from trapping animals through to building a log cabin, as well as some lovely old stories from the Ozarks.

I'd have moved this into practical/DIY but restricted members have posted and it would be unfair to cut them out of it.

[danyboy27]

when i was young i had some survivalist living nearby. nice folks, verry warm people willing to help and trade skill and stuff.

they where constantly making food stockpile, it was creazy.

[Bud Struggle]

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[Plagueround]

I freaking LOVE that show Tom. :)

[IcarusAngel]

I would say survivalism isn't as bad as Libertarainism. In Libertarianism, everybody knows the corporations will come to dominate everything. In survivialism, it is assumed everyone will break off from society and come to live off the land. Neither are desirable, but at least with survivialism you could begin from the "ground up" so to speak to begin building an anarcho-communist community or what have you.

[Dejavu]

In Libertarianism, everybody knows the corporations will come to dominate everything.

That might be true of big 'L' libertarianism as demonstrated on the corporate boot liking platform of the LP or several minarchist , and yes , even some ancaps.

But libertarianism itself, I don't see it.

Surely we would not say in libertarian socialism corporations would come to dominate. It would seem your definition of libertarianism, if you apply to any concept of libertarianism , is incompatible with the popular definition of socialism.

[Pogue]

I think we should definately not fall prey to bowing to the abuse of the word libertarianism by the far-right winger Randroid type people.

Survivalists are odd, yes. I know one and it seems to be this geeky thing for alot of nationalist paranoid types.

[Dejavu]

I think we should definately not fall prey to bowing to the abuse of the word libertarianism by the far-right winger Randroid type people.

Amen to that. Though randroids would reject the term but the right-wing dogma is there still.