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#FF0000
21st April 2009, 19:31
From> http://www.inteldaily.com/news/173/ARTICLE/10449/2009-04-20.html


(SW (http://socialistworker.org/2009/04/20/guilty-of-being-poor)) -- THE JAILERS of the 19th century--even in the pre-Civil War South--largely abandoned the practice of imprisoning people for falling into debt as counterproductive and ultimately barbaric. In the 1970s and '80s, the U.S. Supreme Court affirmed that incarcerating people who can't pay fines because of poverty violates the U.S. Constitution.
Apparently, though, some states and county jails never got the memo. Welcome to the debtors' prisons of the 21st century.

"Edwina Nowlin, a poor Michigan resident, was ordered to reimburse a juvenile detention center $104 a month for holding her 16-year-old son," the New York Times wrote in an editorial.
"When she explained to the court that she could not afford to pay, Ms. Nowlin was sent to prison. The American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, which helped get her out last week after she spent 28 days behind bars, says it is seeing more people being sent to jail because they cannot make various court-ordered payments. That is both barbaric and unconstitutional."

The details of Nowlin's case are even more alarming than the Times editorial suggests. Not only was Nowlin under orders to pay a fine stemming from someone else's actions, but she had been laid off from work and lost her home at the time she was ordered to "reimburse" the county for her son's detention.

Despite her inability to pay, she was held in contempt of court and ordered to serve a 30-day sentence. On March 6, three days after she was incarcerated, she was released for one day to work. She also picked up her paycheck, in the amount of $178.53. This, she thought, could be used to pay the $104, and she would be released from jail.

But when she got back to the jail, the sheriff told her to sign her check over to the county--to pay $120 for her own room and board, and $22 for a drug test and booking fee.
Even more absurd, Nowlin requested but was denied a court-appointed lawyer. So because she was too poor to afford a lawyer and denied her constitutional right to have the court provide one for her, she couldn't fight the contempt charge that stemmed from her poverty. And her contempt conviction only added to her poverty, as the fines and fees she was obligated to pay now multiplied.
"Like many people in these desperate economic times, Ms. Nowlin was laid off from work, lost her home and is destitute," said Michael Steinberg, legal director of the Michigan ACLU. "Jailing her because of her poverty is not only unconstitutional, it's unconscionable and a shameful waste of resources. It is not a crime to be poor in this country, and the government must stop resurrecting debtor's prisons from the dustbin of history."
MICHIGAN ISN'T the only place where you can be imprisoned for the crime of involuntary poverty. The same Catch-22 ensnares poor defendants daily in courtrooms across the country.
In 2006, the Southern Center for Human Rights (SCHR) filed a suit on behalf of Ora Lee Hurley, who couldn't get out of prison until she had enough money to pay a $705 fine. But she couldn't pay the fine because she had to pay the Georgia Department of Corrections $600 a month for room and board, and spend $76 a month on public transportation, laundry and food.

She was released five days a week to work at the K&K Soul Food restaurant, where she earned $6.50 an hour, which netted her about $700 a month after taxes. Hurley was trapped in prison for eight months beyond her initial 120-day sentence until the Southern Center intervened. Over the course of her incarceration, she earned about $7,000, but she never had enough at one time to pay off her $705 fine.
"This is a situation where if this woman was able to write a check for the amount of the fine, she would be out of there," Sarah Geraghty, a SCHR lawyer, told the Atlanta Journal Constitution while Hurley was still imprisoned. "And because she can't, she's still in custody. It's as simple as that."

Georgia also lets for-profit probation companies prey on people too poor to pay their traffic violations and court fees. According to a 2008 SCHR report entitled "Profiting from the poor":
In courts around Georgia, people who are charged with misdemeanors and cannot pay their fines that day in court are placed on probation under the supervision of private, for-profit companies until they pay off their fines. On probation, they must pay these companies substantial monthly "supervision fees" that may double or triple the amount that a person of means would pay for the same offense.
For example, a person of means may pay $200 for a traffic ticket on the day of court and be done with it, while a person too poor to pay that day is placed on probation and ends up paying $500 or more for the same offense.
The privatization of misdemeanor probation has placed unprecedented law enforcement authority in the hands of for-profit companies that act essentially as collection agencies. These companies, focused on profit rather than public safety or rehabilitation, are not designed to supervise people or connect them to services and jobs. Rather, they charge exorbitant monthly fees and use the threat of imprisonment and a variety of bullying tactics to squeeze money out of the men and women under their supervision.
For too many poor people convicted of misdemeanors, our state is not living up to the constitutional promise of equal justice under law.
In Gulfport, Miss., the municipal court started a "fine collection task force" to crack down on people who owed fees for misdemeanors. According to the SCHR Web site:
The task force trolled through predominantly African American neighborhoods, rounding up people who had outstanding court fines. After arresting and jailing them, the City of Gulfport processed these people through a court proceeding at which no defense attorney was present or even offered.
Many people were jailed for months after hearings lasting just seconds. While the city collected money, it also packed the jail with hundreds of people who couldn't pay, including people who were sick, physically disabled and/or limited by mental disabilities.
The disregard of the justice system for the rights of poor people to equal protection and due process is cause for outrage. But it shouldn't come as a surprise in an era when the government spends billions bailing out banks while letting foreclosures and unemployment ruin the lives of working people.
We need to build a movement, like the working-class struggles of the 1930s, that can demand an end to the inhuman practice of incarcerating people for no other crime than finding themselves at the bottom of the social ladder.

And meanwhile, while this is going on, middle-class dipshits are hanging teabags from their hats and protesting against higher taxes for people who have more power and control more wealth than they could ever hope to comprehend. Absolutely fucking disgusting.

Trystan
21st April 2009, 19:34
Don't tread on me . . . or I'll fire my bayonet. :rolleyes:

Congrats on 1000 posts when it comes btw.

Madvillainy
22nd April 2009, 07:09
Isn't government great! Putting people in jail because they cant afford to pay.

GPDP
22nd April 2009, 07:31
Oh, fucking hell, somebody stop me. I'm seething in rage at this development.

If I hear anything about this going on in my area, I'm gonna hit up the local activist student group, and get something going. This is absolutely disgusting.

RebelDog
22nd April 2009, 07:33
Barbaric. All this while the business-class in the US gets massive social welfare. This crazy system rewards the rich for being rich and hammers the poor for being poor in every cruel way it can.

TheCultofAbeLincoln
22nd April 2009, 07:48
Oh now that is some bullshit.

You're going to charge people for their jailtime?

Are you fucking serious?

Speaking of which, I have to pay $400 to a court in a few days or there'll be a warrant out....sucks...

ls
22nd April 2009, 10:02
That is so disgusting. The law plays nothing except a get-fellow-ruling-classes-out-of-jail-free-card.

Dimentio
22nd April 2009, 10:15
Oh now that is some bullshit.

You're going to charge people for their jailtime?

Are you fucking serious?

Speaking of which, I have to pay $400 to a court in a few days or there'll be a warrant out....sucks...

?

Well, it is barbaric. But I guess that is what happens if right-wing morality allows to get a frenzy-hold of a civilisation.

#FF0000
22nd April 2009, 16:47
Oh, fucking hell, somebody stop me. I'm seething in rage at this development.

If I hear anything about this going on in my area, I'm gonna hit up the local activist student group, and get something going. This is absolutely disgusting.

The worst part about this is that it is a relatively small amount of money. A group of people could easily raise $400-$800, I imagine.

I'm going to be looking into this in my area as well. This is just absurd.

STJ
22nd April 2009, 17:00
Putting people in jail cuz they are poor is total bullshit.

RedAnarchist
22nd April 2009, 21:43
Putting people in jail cuz they are poor is total bullshit.

And very backwards. Debtors prisons are an outdated idea and generally, outdated ideas are outdated because they were useless and didn't solve the problem they were intended to help.

Bitter Ashes
22nd April 2009, 22:04
In the UK you can still be jailed for failing to pay your council tax.

Council tax itself is a very unfair tax that takes no account of the ability to pay. If you fail to pay it then you're handed court ordered repayments. If you cant make those repayments then they jail you.

Demogorgon
22nd April 2009, 22:06
How can it possibly be justified to charge people for staying in prison? That was abolished for the injustice it is in Britain before the American colonies were even founded, never mind independence, so it can't even claim precedent in law.

ÑóẊîöʼn
22nd April 2009, 22:30
Oh now that is some bullshit.

You're going to charge people for their jailtime?

Are you fucking serious?

That kinda shocked me as well. What the fuck are they thinking? Isn't the whole point of having a governmental tax and revenue system to pay for this sort of shit?

STJ
22nd April 2009, 23:06
And very backwards. Debtors prisons are an outdated idea and generally, outdated ideas are outdated because they were useless and didn't solve the problem they were intended to help.

Yes they are. How do they expect them to pay while there in jail and not working?

#FF0000
23rd April 2009, 00:27
Yes they are. How do they expect them to pay while there in jail and not working?

They're only let out to work. But they aren't able to save up money and so never have enough money at any one time to pay themselves out.

Dust Bunnies
23rd April 2009, 00:46
Are these prisons private owned (the ones that ask for payment for room and board)? If so that could explain it, but it was a WTF moment for me, this is what taxes go to, and why jail a person who can't pay then expect him to pay more back?

STJ
23rd April 2009, 01:16
They're only let out to work. But they aren't able to save up money and so never have enough money at any one time to pay themselves out.
That is awful this country is a pile of shit.

Communist
23rd April 2009, 01:57
This is an outrage, a travesty. Something MUST be done.

PRC-UTE
23rd April 2009, 02:07
I"m truly shocked and enraged. Good luck to anyone resisting this medieval tyranny

Vahanian
23rd April 2009, 03:00
dam, the cappies are going old school on us!!
:cursing:
but seriously this is a bunch of crap to bring back such an outdated form of bullshit

STJ
23rd April 2009, 03:07
We Americans have to fight this bullshit.

Vahanian
23rd April 2009, 03:11
dam right. this has got to go against something in the great U.S bill of privileges

STJ
23rd April 2009, 03:19
Every single American who posts here let every person you know that this happening today. Also call your congressman and senator and demand they do something to stop this.

YSR
23rd April 2009, 07:16
This is an extreme punishment that obviously socialists should be fighting against. I think it dovetails nicely with what folks from the prison abolitionist movement (http://criticalresistance.org) have been saying for some time now.

That said, a less extreme but by no means easier phenomenon to escape from is already effecting millions of people in the U.S. and that is people in serious debt to payday loan companies. This form of virtual enslavement eerily mirrors early 20th century "company towns" and sharecropping schemes.

It seems that in this particular historical moment, with circuits of profit not functioning how they have for some time, the bourgeoisie is returning to antiquated methods of extracting more profit from workers.

TheCultofAbeLincoln
23rd April 2009, 09:53
Are these prisons private owned (the ones that ask for payment for room and board)?

I doubt it, though the Prison system often contracts out much of its work.

Also, it's getting up there with defense for the amount of lobbying that goes on. It's a huge industry. Over 1% of Americans are behind bars are a lot of somebodies are making a helluva lot off of that sad fact.

Dimentio
23rd April 2009, 13:18
The question is what they want to accomplish. I think this is legislation born out of desperation, given the unnaturally huge prison population in America. That in its turn is fed by the notion in American culture that whatever happens to you, you are responsible.

"Woe to the defeeeated!"

STJ
23rd April 2009, 18:22
This should outrage every single American who hears about it.