NAZI's Target Loyalist Estates

[Andropov]

Published Date: 21 April 2009

An extreme right-wing British nationalist party calling for the introduction of a shoot-to-kill policy in the north have been condemned for carrying out a leaflet drop in Derry.

Local loyalist leaders said such views were not welcome in loyalist estates.

The Ulster branch of the British People's Party (BPP), a pro-white power group who claim to "represent the interests of the ultra Nationalists of Great Britain", distributed hundreds of leaflets in loyalist areas of Derry's Waterside on Saturday.

In a statement on their website, on which Hitler's birthday was yesterday openly celebrated, the BPP state the leaflet drop comes as part of a campaign "against the late upsurge in dissident republican activity in Northern Ireland".

The statement reads: "The activists posted leaflets through the doors of houses on Bond Street, Clooney Estate and Lincoln Court, stating "Bring back the 'shoot-to-kill policy' for suspected IRA terrorists!"

The party claim to have been met with "a very positive response from the locals who seemed disconcerted by the lack of action taken against the late attacks perpetrated by the Real-IRA."

"The Ulster BPP is confident that more positive comments are yet to come, and that there will be some new recruits in the Londonderry area," the statement concludes.


http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/...tes.5188473.jp (http://www.derryjournal.com/journal/Nazis-target-loyalist-estates.5188473.jp)

[progressive_lefty]

Aren't the Irish part of the great and grand white race?

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

In short

Nazi leather fetishists turn up to irish estates , get told to fuck off , some people were too polite to tell them to eat shit and die , they brag about it as a big success.

[h0m0revolutionary]

Not surprising, the two ideologies have been married for some time..
The BPP are so small they border on insignificance and loyalism manifests itself as anti-catholic, anti-Irish bigotry far too often to be treated as anything other than a wholly rascist and reactionary movement =/

[Man from Another Place]

Unfortunately 'Loyalism' is not insignificant. Its influence can be felt on the streets of many towns and villages throughout Northern Ireland and indeed within the halls of power at Stormont. The stalwarts of Orange reaction, the DUP, dominating the executive and the continued existence of Loyalist paramilitaries does not bode well for the future of peace in Northern Ireland and beyond.

[neilhere]

Indeed loyalism and groups like C18 & NF have had ties for quite some time. Undoubtedly rascism is prevelant in loyalist areas and groups like this could gain supporter in loyalist areas through blaming immigrants for job loses, being anti-ira, etc

[Trystan]

Aren't the Irish part of the great and grand white race?

Not if you're Catholic. Makes you wonder why they'd celebrate Hitler's birthday, since he was a confirmed Catholic. :lol:

But I think that basically these idiots will support anyone who's a big enough bastard for them. Thuggery is what these people love, and I think they expected it in Loyalist communities.

[la lucha sigue]

the recent exodus of eastern european immigrants from loyalist areas shows that the two ideologies (loyalism and nazi-fascism) have a lot more in common than some would like to let on. and who did the new psni blame? polish football fans! Same old Orange state. Only when sectarian partition is ended will this kind of mentality really be able to be tackled. Until then it will fester within a political body which believes it has the right to minority orange rule.

[Dóchas]

Aren't the Irish part of the great and grand white race?

no it more the freckled face, ginger hair kind of race :rolleyes:

although i would like to know what you meant by this comment?

[Black_Flag]

Todays edition of the Derry Journal, a local newspaper, also reported on far-right lefelets being distributed in loyalists estates in Derry. Im guessing they were from the same group, although the article didnt go into much detail.

[Dr Mindbender]

Shit. I'd better keep my eyes out, i live less than 10 minutes walk from a UVF gangland.

Thanks for the heads up, PRC.

[Dr Mindbender]

In short

Nazi leather fetishists turn up to irish estates , get told to fuck off , some people were too polite to tell them to eat shit and die , they brag about it as a big success.


Don't be so sure about that. The political climate of the Shankill and Sandy Row estates are not that of the Falls, Turf Lodge or South Armagh. The sort of stuff that the BPP/BNP put out are very palatable with the unionist community here, even more so due to the recession and the prominence of new migrant communities in the province. Particulary since there is no real appetite for class warfare or credible anti-fascist presence in the unionist communities to combat their propaganda.

Obviously the BPP understand this hence their new strategy.


Can a local mod or global mod move this antifascism please?

I'd like to keep an eye on this thread.

[la lucha sigue]

i wouldn't be so sure that there isn't a credible anti-fascis presence in loyalist communities. there's great work being done in lisburn estates against racism, and i'm sure it extends to other communities, even those where there is a strong anti-immigrant presence. Just because its happening in loyalist areas doesn't mean that we have to tar the entire protestant working class with the same brush.

[Dr Mindbender]

i wouldn't be so sure that there isn't a credible anti-fascis presence in loyalist communities. there's great work being done in lisburn estates against racism, and i'm sure it extends to other communities, even those where there is a strong anti-immigrant presence. Just because its happening in loyalist areas doesn't mean that we have to tar the entire protestant working class with the same brush.

What i mean is there isnt a militant effort against fascism in the same way that there would be in mainland GB with the likes of antifa or UAF. Our community leaders try to put a positive spin on things, but there are still racist attacks happening in protestant areas. Only recently a hungarian woman in belfast had her windows broken by a stone throwing local mob.

[la lucha sigue]

Only recently a hungarian woman in belfast had her windows broken by a stone throwing local mob.

there were more than 40 eastern european immigrant ejected from loyalist areas in the past couple of weeks! The usual suspects, DUP & PUP are the ones who pay lipservice to anti-fascism, but there are good grassroots groups out there fighting for immigrants and against fascism. They mightn't be as militant as in GB, but they do good work all the same, and they work in against a pretty militant backdrop, so i don't blame them for their approach.

[Andy Bowden]

Fuck knows how a group of newish Neo-Nazis from the UK are going to break into the political scene in Norn Iron, hating catholics is a saturated political market :rolleyes:

[Dr Mindbender]

Fuck knows how a group of newish Neo-Nazis from the UK are going to break into the political scene in Norn Iron, hating catholics is a saturated political market :rolleyes:

I dont think they're trying to break into that political market though. Since the 'end' of the troubles, the province has seen an influx of immigrants from places like Eastern Europe and many from other continents. I think what they're trying to do is import English style racism to the 6 counties.

[STJ]

What a joke those nazis are.

[progressive_lefty]

no it more the freckled face, ginger hair kind of race :rolleyes:

although i would like to know what you meant by this comment?

Couldn't resist the sarcasm...

[Hoxhaist]

how likely is a return to rampant violence in Northern ireland?

[Dóchas]

Couldn't resist the sarcasm...


ok


how likely is a return to rampant violence in Northern ireland?


im not sure. it probably wont but if they act on what ever the leaflets promote well its hard to tell

[Andropov]

how likely is a return to rampant violence in Northern ireland?
Not likely at all, the contos and cokes couldnt mount a campaign if they wanted to.
And as for the Loyalists, as long as it is beneficial to the British State to stop hunting taigs for a while they will be peacefull, they are the paramilitary puppets off the British State after all.

[la lucha sigue]

how likely is a return to rampant violence in Northern ireland?

without a british withdrawal, it is inevitable. the question is when, not if. No time soon though.

[Pogue]

Nazis target loyalist estates.

Pope targets Catholics.

Bears target woods for defecation.

[Sean]

Don't be so sure about that. The political climate of the Shankill and Sandy Row estates are not that of the Falls, Turf Lodge or South Armagh. The sort of stuff that the BPP/BNP put out are very palatable with the unionist community here, even more so due to the recession and the prominence of new migrant communities in the province. Particulary since there is no real appetite for class warfare or credible anti-fascist presence in the unionist communities to combat their propaganda.
I wouldn't be so sure. With sectarianism put on the back burner for a while I've noticed racism, homophobia creeping into the forefront in nationalist communities too. While I haven't as yet seen anything by way of organisation the sentiment is there in some of the politically turned off corners that stopped give a damn about the struggle after the Good Friday Agreement. In fact, its always been there (http://www.independent.ie/national-news/north-most-hostile-to-gays-and-foreigners-according-to-study-53901.html). Nothing like a common "enemy" to join our rival communities, eh? Peace in our time, that sort of thing.

[Black_Flag]

I wouldn't be so sure. With sectarianism put on the back burner for a while I've noticed racism, homophobia creeping into the forefront in nationalist communities too. While I haven't as yet seen anything by way of organisation the sentiment is there in some of the politically turned off corners that stopped give a damn about the struggle after the Good Friday Agreement. Nothing like a common "enemy" to join our rival communities, eh? Peace in our time, that sort of thing.

I agree. There has undoubtly been a rise in homophonic and racist violence, however thats not to say that those additude haven't always been there, they just seem to have become more prevelent since the end of the troubles.

[Black_Flag]

The statement reads: "The activists posted leaflets through the doors of houses on Bond Street, Clooney Estate and Lincoln Court, stating "Bring back the 'shoot-to-kill policy' for suspected IRA terrorists!"

I work with a few people that live in these estates, must find out if theyve had any of these leaflets posted through their letterbox, might be able to get hold of one.