Texas Secession?

[Rusty Shackleford]

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I dont really think it will happen but it would be pretty interesting. I also do not know if this is a doubled up thread since i have little time to surf through threads.

Thoughts anyone?

[Dimentio]

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I dont really think it will happen but it would be pretty interesting. I also do not know if this is a boubled up thread since i have little time to surf through threads.

Thoughts anyone?

There is really no popular support for this, just outlandish whining within the libertarian wing of American conservatives. To raise taxes back to Clinton's level is equated with abolishment of private property? :lol:

The thing is, that I have no doubts that if one or several US states would secede in the future, the US federal government will stop it in some way.

[Kassad]

Here's the kicker: the governor of Texas, the guy who is claiming that secession may be necessary and that the federal government is expanding past its limits? Just called up FEMA recently asking for assistance due to wildfires. Sometimes irony is better than sex.

[Al Kaline]

I recently heard that 18% of Texans want to secede. =/ Id better gtfo asap, I dont trust this Perry guy

[Some Red Guy]

Here's the kicker: the governor of Texas, the guy who is claiming that secession may be necessary and that the federal government is expanding past its limits? Just called up FEMA recently asking for assistance due to wildfires. Sometimes irony is better than sex.
Specially so when you consider that half the people supporting this guy think FEMA are digging mass graves for them at this very movement.

Anyways, with a conservative ideology as basis I can't see much good coming from it but if popular support for secceeding increased there's no reason for them to be in the US. I'm neutral on the matter.

[bcbm]

Good riddance.

[STJ]

Let those crazy right-wingers go.

[Angry Young Man]

Is Arizona much better for right-wing lunatics?

[STJ]

Not at all.

[Pawn Power]

The secessionist advocates in the US are bizarre. Look, they are usually super patriots however they want don't want to be apart of the very nation they idealize.

[GPDP]

Let those crazy right-wingers go.

Fuck that shit. Then I'd be stuck here with no help, surrounded by bible thumpers and right-wingers.

I'm not exactly opposed to secession per se; just not on these people's terms.

[STJ]

Fuck that shit. Then I'd be stuck here with no help, surrounded by bible thumpers and right-wingers.

I'm not exactly opposed to secession per se; just not on these people's terms.
Sorry about that comrade.

[hugsandmarxism]

Paul: "Secession is an American principle."

Yeah, so is genocide.

[Mike Morin]

So let em' seceede, and we should all seceede from our States, our Counties, and Our Municiplaities.

Texas, what do they have to offer other than a good musical artist every once in a while.

Let them eat blubonnets, indian paints and long-horn cattle (which I be told is a very very low quality beef).

Cotton woods and Asrtodomes and
the stars at night
you can't see in the cities
because of the electric lights
are so bright
Clap, clap, clap,clap,
Deep in the heart of Tejas....

[Dimentio]

The secessionist advocates in the US are bizarre. Look, they are usually super patriots however they want don't want to be apart of the very nation they idealize.

Not if they are going to pay any taxes.

[Marx22]

Last time a US state used sucession, the Civil War started, and half a million people were killed. It has been three months since republicans have been out of power and already want to start the second civil war.....over a 3% tax hike on rich people. This is a bit scary and hope this is all talk to prop Perry up for re-election for Governor in a year or two.

If Republicans and right wingers right now were in power and Rick Perry was a Democrat, don't you think McCain would've sent down troops to Texas and jail Perry for inciting treason? Wouldn't Tom Delay bash Perry if he were a Democrat and call for him to be hanged instead of encouraging Perry/sucession on MSNBC? There is a clear double standard when democrats are in power and when republicans are I've noticed these past few months.

[Mike Morin]

Is Arizona much better for right-wing lunatics?

Arid Zona is a friggin' desert, man. They's be suckin the water out of the Colorado and over from other parts of CalvinLeeFornicator.

I had some bourgeois out of touch woman fool trying to assert that the Phoenix area was relocalizing. To the bourgeoise fools that means they may be a growing a few vegetable gardens yet blind or "coexisting" with the Fascists and their irrigatied lawns and golf courses.

Personally, I voted for McAbel...

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not a stupid, phony ass either.

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[Dust Bunnies]

If Texas leaves the Union I will first laugh so hard and just wait for them to lose. Seriously, Texas cannot go off on its own, the US military would annihilate it. Unfortunately probably Texas's folly would end up hurting all of us, the government would probably start to clamp down on civil rights more.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

This isn't going anywhere, and Perry never actually said he is an advocate for secession. He said that he understands people who would want this because of DC's leadership.

Texas could make it on its own. We have an independent power grid, unlike the rest of the country, and we had an Independent National Guard until just a few years ago.

Texas began as an independent Republic, and I have no doubt it could survive as an independent nation once again. Not that I would support it.

[Angry Young Man]

You know, separate states are easier to take over. Or perhaps at least easier to establish socialism in a smaller area that expands. How do you tackle a counter-revolutionary insurgency in Utah when you're on the East Coast. Just a thought.

[Rusty Shackleford]

You know, separate states are easier to take over. Or perhaps at least easier to establish socialism in a smaller area that expands. How do you tackle a counter-revolutionary insurgency in Utah when you're on the East Coast. Just a thought.

yeah but you pretty much have no chance in Texas. unless you are right wing or further right wing.
but, on a land scale point yeah it would probably be easier, just depends on the population.

[Angry Young Man]

Is there still an oil industry around Houston. I know the heavy industries in the UK have always been the biggest base for marxism up till Thatcher shut them down and opened up a garden centre.

[x359594]

...Texas began as an independent Republic, and I have no doubt it could survive as an independent nation once again. Not that I would support it.

Didn't it begin as a province of Mexico? Perhaps Texas should secede so that Mexico could reclaim it.

Texas would have a harder time maintaining its independence today against a US equipped Mexican army; all those guns and all that money the Mexican military is receiving from the US to fight narco-traffickers could be put to another purpose.