Rolling your own tobacco

[Bitter Ashes]

Heyas. I thought I might write a little guide on how to roll your own, for the smokers out there.

Why roll you own?

Well, firstly it's cheaper! It's shocking how much the price difference is. A pack of 20 cigarettes now cost about £6 in the UK, while I can buy half an ounce (12.5g) of tobacco for about £2 from any newsagent. If you go to a tobacconist and ask for a slightly thicker cut, you can get it even cheaper, because of reduced tax. When you buy your tobacco from abroad, it's even cheaper again! Add about 50p for filter tips and rolling papers. With that I can make about 50 reasonably sized rollies.

The other reason is that rollies can be personalised more to your taste, especially if you get your tobacco from a proper tobacconist. You can make them pretty much any blend and even add flavours. It's also possible to make smaller rollies if you just need something to puff away in under a minute if you're in a hurry, or make a very hefty one to keep you going for a long time.

Finaly, rollies are actualy healthier for you. I'm not going to suggest for a second that there's a safe way to smoke, but you can reduce the risks by smoking rollies. Pre-rolled cigarettes contain tonnes of chemicals! Propellants to keep them lit, artificial herbicides, preserving agents, bleachs in the papers and all sorts of other nasties that just make a bad situation worse for your health. Rolling tobacco is usualy just dried and shredded tobacco leaves and nothing else.

Okay. Sounds good. So what do I need?

Well, some rolling tobacco and rolling papers and if you want a filter, some of those too. That's pretty much it. The whole lot will cost you less than a single pack of cigarettes. I'd personaly recommend using "green" rolling papers, as the cut corners make your life a lot easier and slimline filter tips are generaly easier to work with than the big ones.

So, what do I do with it?

(I'm typing this up for somebody who's right handed, you may need to swap it around if you're a leftie)
Okay. Lay out your rolling paper with the cut corners facing you. Make sure the gummed side is on the inside (which it should normaly be anyway so long as you dont try to fold it back on itself). If you've got a filter drop that in on the left side of the paper. Now hold it your left hand by lightly pinching the bit of the paper with the filter under if you have one, or by holding your index finger inside the paper and your thumb and middle finger straddling the outside if you dont.

Place a bit of tobacco ion the left of the paper and move your hand around a little so that your left hand now supports the bottom of the paper with your index and middle finger and your thumb is on top of the tobacco. Now, you need to tease out the clumps from the tobacco with your right hand. What you're aiming to do is create a uniform covering of tobacco. Slide the tobacco back together again if it gets too thin and move onto the next bit, left to right. Your left thumb should move up the paper as you're moving along to clamp onto it, so your right hand can tease out the strands.

Once you're happy that there's no clumps, or pockets of air, you can start rolling. You want to pinch the paper just above the tobacco with your thumbs and middle fingers and roll them together gently to get it nice and round. When it feels smooth enough, start rolling it further down right to the cut corners on the bottom edge of your paper. When you start rolling up again, it should snag under the rest of the paper. You can roll it all the way up now into a tube. Just before you get right to the top, give the gum a lick and finish it off. If you've got a filter in there, just check it's not poking out and give it a very gentle push if it is, but not too hard or you may make the rollie split.

Smoking a rollie

The first thing you'll discover is that rollies can go out a lot more then pre-rolled cigarettes. That's because they're not filled with inflamables to keep them lit. It's quite good in a way, not only are you not smoking what's effectivly petrol, but it'll also go out if you forget about it, meaning that you wont come back 5 minutes later to discover that your rollie's all burned away... or your house burnt down. So, if you want to keep them going, keep smoking it. You can pause, but not longer than about a minute.

Also be careful. The filter tips you can buy are usualy shorter than the ones you'll be used to on pre-rolled cigarettes, obviously if you're not using a filter tip then you'll be particulaly aware of this! So, keep it in mind that you should be very careful not to burn your lips when you get near the end. If you want to play it on the safe side, then there's no reason you cant put it out early and then unwravel your rollie to get the excess tobacco back again for future use.

Caring for your tobacco

Rolling tobacco will dry out if you're not careful. Dry tobacco is a very unpleasant experiance for most people, a friend of mine described it as like trying to swallow a cheesegrater! Pre-rolled cigarettes do contain some additional chemicals to keep them moist, but they do dry out too. The main thing that prevents them from drying out though is that they only last a day after you open then, as opposed to your rolling tobacco lasting maybe up to a week, or even longer for bigger pouches after you open the pouch. So, here's some tips to keep it from turning into sawdust:
- Never put your rolling papers in the tobacco pouch with your tobacco. It'll hoover out all the moisture
- Try to use a resealable bag to keep your tobacco in, if not, then use the pouch that it comes in. Tins are for storing your rollies and lighter in, not the tobacco.
- Keep the pouch/bag closed as much as you can
- If it is getting very dry then place a slice of potato in with your tobacco. Be sure to replace it daily otherwise it'll go mouldy and contaminate your tobacco. You could use a frozen oven-chip (or french-fry if you're across the pond), but to be honest, if you're buying uy frozen chips then let me tell you can just peel a spud and cut it yourself in less than a minute for a fraction of the cost. Obviously, you cook it for less time on account of it not bieng frozen to start with. And now I'm rambling...

And if things get really dire...
After you put out your rollie, see if there's any tobacco at the bottom you can rescue. Pull off the ask and any black bits from the top and hang onto any unburnt tobacco from inside. I've managed to salvage 3 rollies from my rather small ashtray in one go from doing this, although it is a very messy job!

Hope all that helps :)


AugustWest's helpful tips for rolling cigarettes (and other things):
1) Already been mentioned, but practice. The more you roll, the better your cigs.
2) Place the proper amount of tobacco into your paper; too much and it'll be hard to achieve a smooth roll, too little and your smoke will burn uneven. How much is enough? Practice and find out - basically, you want less on the filter side, and more on the end - but remember, when you pack (roll it down) it will compress.
2) Upon licking the gum, be sure to begin the fixation from the filter side. This will help you achieve the cone shape, also improving your smoke. Make sure your filter side is tight as can be, and when you fix the gum at the filter, work slowly up to the other end. Always continue to tighten the cigarette as you are moving up the gum, this will help maintain a slimmer cigarette.
3) When you have finished rolling, you aren't finished! Pack your cigarette. You can do this upon a table top by holding the cig like a pencil/pen and tapping it repeatedly. Or you can use a paperclip/small thin object to pack the top of the cigarette. This will make the beginning drags more pleasurable as the tobacco is packed tightly.
4) Inspect your cigarette upon completion. What can you do better?
If it's bulging in the middle, less tobacco next time (or spread it out better).
If it's breaking at the filter, more tobacco in that area and more saliva on the gum.
If it's unrolling, lick again and allow more time to dry.
If it's falling out the end, roll tighter next time.
If it drags really hard, roller tighter and slimmer.
If it's too hard to drag, less tobacco (you can also fix this sometimes by rolling the thickest parts lightly between your fingers - this will move the tobacco about and create air pathways).

Remember, practice makes perfect.

- August

[Bitter Ashes]

Oh and the best tip of all.

PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE

You will make a few catapillars at first. But there's nothing to say that you have to smoke them. Nothing wrong with tearing the paper up and recovering your tobacco and filter and trying again. Papers are so cheap that it's definatly possible.

Also, one more benefit is biodegradability. If you're not using a nylon filter, then the leftovers will decompose naturaly. Cotton filters are available, but harder to find.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

Does the tobacco you purchase come with a filter(s), or is it purchased separately?

I've never heard of such a thing, to be honest, though I've been rolling Tops Tobacco now that it's $6.50 for a pack, though you already know about all that.

I'll have to go on a little expedition to try and find some, though it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't carry them so the only option for filtered smoke is with buying a pack.

Oh, and that's a very good description Ranma, something very good to know if you need a 'rollie' and are on the move. But if you don't feel like practicing, a cigarette roller is about $5. I've had luck finding them at headshops since they can be used to roll other stuff.

[Bitter Ashes]

filters always come seperatly. It was a nuisnace getting hold of them a few years ago, but they've become very widespread over here now. I'm sure you could order a few very cheaply from a wholesaler.

[OneNamedNameLess]

Thankyou. Why just tobacco though? :D

[Bitter Ashes]

Thankyou. Why just tobacco though? :D
I know what you're getting at and the best response I can come up with is to quote the boards :P

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[synthesis]

Now we just need a guide for growing your own tobacco...

[Bitter Ashes]

Now we just need a guide for growing your own tobacco...
That is something I've looked into actualy. It's a bit of a nuisnace by the sounds of things because it takes such a long time and it's so difficult to get right. If I could grow tobacco plants in a windowbox and have it ready to smoke within a year, I'd be very happy. Unfortuantly, it seems like I cant :(

[Stranger Than Paradise]

I actually prefer the roll my own method. They last longer, you get more roll-ups (than cigarettes) for less money and I prefer their taste to a normal cigarette. Tell me Ranma, what tobacco do you prefer. I haven't vetured much past golden virginia, though amber leaf is quite good. I want to get some of that American spirit tobacco, the stuff with no additives but it's hard to find.

[Jazzratt]

I've rolled my own for years because it's several orders of magnitude cheaper and I honestly prefer the method, it gives a lot more control over all the variables of a cigarette (taste, length of smoke and so on). I use flavoured papers myself (liqourice) and I've yet to see any similarly flavoured tailor's that weren't insanely expensive.

[Sam_b]

I thought the only tobacco which was really additive-free was American Spirit?

Regardless when back at home I tend to smoke Drum Gold with licquorice or green skins.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

I thought the only tobacco which was really additive-free was American Spirit?

Regardless when back at home I tend to smoke Drum Gold with licquorice or green skins.

Yeah that's what I meant.

[Jazzratt]

Smoking a rollie

The first thing you'll discover is that rollies can go out a lot more then pre-rolled cigarettes. That's because they're not filled with inflamables to keep them lit.

This is true, but rollies aren't completely free of chemical additions. Look at your papers next time you make a cigarette, the vertical lines evenly spaced along the paper are designed to burn more slowly than the paper by being treated with flame retardant chemicals. This is nowhere near as bad as the shit they put in tailors and makes smoking far easier than with normal paper but it's still chemically treated to change the burn.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Shockingly, I actually smoke cheapo packet fags, mainly Mayfair. For some reason I've gone off the taste of rollies.

[Bitter Ashes]

This is true, but rollies aren't completely free of chemical additions. Look at your papers next time you make a cigarette, the vertical lines evenly spaced along the paper are designed to burn more slowly than the paper by being treated with flame retardant chemicals. This is nowhere near as bad as the shit they put in tailors and makes smoking far easier than with normal paper but it's still chemically treated to change the burn.
oh wow. I never noticed those lines before!
I know there's those new white papers thar rizzla do that are supposed to be like addititive free and use perforations for something or other. I guess that they're there instead of those chemicals perhaps?
I have used the pages from those free Gideon's bibles you find lying around when I ran out of papers once or twice and I did always wonder why they never burned evenly. I guess I know now! ^^

[Bitter Ashes]

Shockingly, I actually smoke cheapo packet fags, mainly Mayfair. For some reason I've gone off the taste of rollies.
At least they're not those nasty nasty Richmonds *shudders*
They might as well call those things Victory Cigarettes.
Another intresting thing is those "superking" cigarettes. They dont actualy contain any extra tobacco. Not only do they have a significantly bigger filter (which obviously you cant smoke), but also they're a lot more loosley packed. Some of my friends in school actualy weighed them to prove the point that there's really not anythign more in them other than just filter and paper.

[Sasha]

I have used the pages from those free Gideon's bibles you find lying around when I ran out of papers once or twice


you are so going to burn eternely in hell my friend...... :laugh:

[Bitter Ashes]

I actually prefer the roll my own method. They last longer, you get more roll-ups (than cigarettes) for less money and I prefer their taste to a normal cigarette. Tell me Ranma, what tobacco do you prefer. I haven't vetured much past golden virginia, though amber leaf is quite good. I want to get some of that American spirit tobacco, the stuff with no additives but it's hard to find.
I smoke blue Drum with green papers and menthol filter tips. Intrestingly, you cant actualy get full tar/nicotine menthols pre-rolled. They're always the light variety, so there's the additional benefit that I end up smoking less than if I was to just smoke menthols from a pack.

It may suprise you to know that Golden Virginia and Amber Leaf are actualy exactly the same blend of tobacco i.e. 100% Light Virginia tobacco. You may have noticed though that Amber leaf is actualy drier and shorter strands than Golden Viriginia though. Basicly, it's older tobacco that's the dregs that gets caught up in the cutting machines, hence why it's cheaper.

Drum is a proper blend of tobaccos called Halfwazare Shag, which is of Dutch origin. It's part dark kentucky burley and part light virginia. Old Holburn is the same blend, but of higher quality that Drum, but not as substantial a difference as between Amber Leaf and Golden V. The light version is a slightly different blend again, but I cant remember what that is off the top of my head.

[Bitter Ashes]

you are so going to burn eternely in hell my friend...... :laugh:
Well, if God wanted me to not smoke his book then he should have his followers leaving me free rolling papers in my room and not a bible :lol:

[Sasha]

Drum is a proper blend of tobaccos called Halfwazare Shag, which is of Dutch origin.

:laugh:

i think you'll find thats "half zware". zware (zwaar) means heavy so in this case its medium strenght tabacco, shag (or sjek) is just dutch for rolling tabacco

in the netherlands a very big percentage of the smokers (espacely the heavy smokers) role their own tabacco, its was considered a bit prolli and sommething your grandpa or uncle did but its getting realy populair again, even with the hipsters, so it comes in a whole variety of brands, blends and strenghts (light, half zwaar, 3/4, zwaar, extra zwaar)
i dont smoke anymore but if you'r ever over here you should try "javaanse jongens" (indonesian boys), it was my fav when i was still a smoker.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

I smoke blue Drum with green papers and menthol filter tips. Intrestingly, you cant actualy get full tar/nicotine menthols pre-rolled. They're always the light variety, so there's the additional benefit that I end up smoking less than if I was to just smoke menthols from a pack.

It may suprise you to know that Golden Virginia and Amber Leaf are actualy exactly the same blend of tobacco i.e. 100% Light Virginia tobacco. You may have noticed though that Amber leaf is actualy drier and shorter strands than Golden Viriginia though. Basicly, it's older tobacco that's the dregs that gets caught up in the cutting machines, hence why it's cheaper.

Drum is a proper blend of tobaccos called Halfwazare Shag, which is of Dutch origin. It's part dark kentucky burley and part light virginia. Old Holburn is the same blend, but of higher quality that Drum, but not as substantial a difference as between Amber Leaf and Golden V. The light version is a slightly different blend again, but I cant remember what that is off the top of my head.

Thanks. I've never been fond of Drum though, it seems sort of like a Lucky Strike cigarette to me, roasted. Menthol tips are nice for a change, if you have a cold or if you are smoking stale tobacco but apart from that I prefer just a plain one. What's the difference between gold and blue drum by the way?

[Bitter Ashes]

They use a different blend of tobacco and it's supposed to have less tar and nicotine in it. Whether the two are connected I dont know.

[Delirium]

Roll your owns have more than doubled in price recently in the united states. I would usually roll bugler since it cost $2 for 40 cigs but now its like $4.50 for the same amount. I just am going to have to quit smoking.

[Trystan]

I've been rolling for two years. I rarely buy machine rolled these days - I actually think the hand roll stuff is far superior, and you can get those king size papers, too . . . of late I have finally mastered the art of rolling without a flat surface. On more than a few occations did people think I was smoking a joint because I didn't roll properly.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

I've been rolling for two years. I rarely buy machine rolled these days - I actually think the hand roll stuff is far superior, and you can get those king size papers, too . . . of late I have finally mastered the art of rolling without a flat surface. On more than a few occations did people think I was smoking a joint because I didn't roll properly.

Yeah king size papers make a very satisfactory smoke. For me the tobacco is much nicer and it's so satisfying to roll your own.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

People actually use king skins for things other than joints? :lol: The only reason I use king skins for cigarettes is when I run out of small ones.

[bugsy]

And just to piss you all off, the world record in knocking up a rolly is held by a Dutchman and is .... four seconds!:):):)

The best skins by far are the Froggie OCB. They're only half the price of Rizlas, you can get them in 100s (double pack) and they're made entirely from hemp.

MsG

[Bitter Ashes]

People actually use king skins for things other than joints? :lol: The only reason I use king skins for cigarettes is when I run out of small ones.
Yeah, well originaly king size papers were made for lorry drivers. The idea was that they'd last longer, so they wouldnt have to stop to roll as often.

[which doctor]

I've been rolling my own for over a month now and I don't think I'll ever go back. Bali Shag is my favorite type. I'm on a pouch of Drum Turkish, but it's not that great. The quality is worse than Bali Shag, Drum sold in America is different from Drum sold in Europe. I just find ryo to be so much more of a satisfactory experience.

Unfortunately, the tax on ryo went up over 2000% percent :scared: on April 1st. Still cheaper than buying factory cigs though.

[Os Cangaceiros]

When I'm working I smoke TOP tobacco, a.k.a. the shittiest tobacco ever.

I'm not very good at handrolling cigarettes, but I'm getting better.

[JRPS-12]

I actually have an advantage of living next to the native population. They sell very affordable tobacco in great quantities. I usually buy 400 cigarettes for about 40 dollars tax free which would cost almost two hundred dollars bought from the stores. At least it is supporting the local community.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

When I'm working I smoke TOP tobacco, a.k.a. the shittiest tobacco ever.

Don't say that.

I used to think so, but after being in jail a couple days I quickly learned that them Gold Coast/Gulf/Whatever shitters makes TOP look like some gourmet shit.

Though it's not the best, I agree. Buglers has a better taste.

[Bandito]

In Serbia, ciggarettes are cheap, so nobody here rolls.
For examply, the ones I smoke cost about 0.60 euro per package and it is decent tobacco.
Lucky Strike costs about 1.1 euro.
But, than again, if you look at average salary, i need quite a proportion just to pay for my addiction.

[welshboy]

I stopped smoking ages ago, but then i AM better than all of you. :p
*runs for cover*

[Sasha]

hey speak for yourself, i dont smoke tabaco either....

[Sam_b]

Props to Psycho for his reccommendation of Javaanse Jongens, got myself a packet yesterday and have been happily making my way through it ever since :)

[ellipsis]

:laugh:

i think you'll find thats "half zware". zware (zwaar) means heavy so in this case its medium strenght tabacco, shag (or sjek) is just dutch for rolling tabacco

in the netherlands a very big percentage of the smokers (espacely the heavy smokers) role their own tabacco, its was considered a bit prolli and sommething your grandpa or uncle did but its getting realy populair again, even with the hipsters, so it comes in a whole variety of brands, blends and strenghts (light, half zwaar, 3/4, zwaar, extra zwaar)
i dont smoke anymore but if you'r ever over here you should try "javaanse jongens" (indonesian boys), it was my fav when i was still a smoker.
A friend brought back some incredible dark dutch tobacco some years back, best rollies ive ever had.

I smoke prerolled cigs most of the time but if i can get some from my european friends, i prefer golden virginia tobacco rolled with a slim filter. I roll tobacco that i friend of mine grew, picked and air dried with no chems. I actually only use it in spliffs!

[Comrade_]

Cutter's Choice, green Rizla, slim Swan filter tips :cool:

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

I had a go at rolling the other week!
First one was an epic fail, limp, lifeless

Second would not light, no idead why

From then on i got the hang of it though

[-marx-]

I've always preferred to roll my own, I smoke Champion Ruby and use some of the best papers there are, Australian made "Tally-Ho's". I don't know if you can buy them papers outside AU but they are worth trying to get if you can. I use venti slim filters cause I hate getting tobacco in my mouth,it stings.
I may have a source for "chop-chop" (illegal tax free tobacco bought buy the kilo) so I may be changing to that soon. I used to buy it and its dirt cheap.

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

Anyone know how to role a two ir three skin?

[Bitter Ashes]

Yup. There's guides online about how to make a build. Other than that it's just practice.

[heylelshalem]

im all about the bali-shag. best rolling tobbacco ever. sadly in my area the price of a tin has doubled. its gone from 16 dollars to 32...sad. I dont smoke more then two or three cigarettes a day..that way i actually can enjoy the taste of the smoke.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

im all about the bali-shag. best rolling tobbacco ever. sadly in my area the price of a tin has doubled. its gone from 16 dollars to 32...sad. I dont smoke more then two or three cigarettes a day..that way i actually can enjoy the taste of the smoke.

Totally agree :cool: I have not tried Bali Shag as you can't get it in the UK but I was wondering why in the US you can get big tins of tobacco, the idea of it appeals to me as I'm always worried about running out and having to get more but surely it will go stale before you can use it all?

[Decolonize The Left]

AugustWest's helpful tips for rolling cigarettes (and other things):
1) Already been mentioned, but practice. The more you roll, the better your cigs.
2) Place the proper amount of tobacco into your paper; too much and it'll be hard to achieve a smooth roll, too little and your smoke will burn uneven. How much is enough? Practice and find out - basically, you want less on the filter side, and more on the end - but remember, when you pack (roll it down) it will compress.
2) Upon licking the gum, be sure to begin the fixation from the filter side. This will help you achieve the cone shape, also improving your smoke. Make sure your filter side is tight as can be, and when you fix the gum at the filter, work slowly up to the other end. Always continue to tighten the cigarette as you are moving up the gum, this will help maintain a slimmer cigarette.
3) When you have finished rolling, you aren't finished! Pack your cigarette. You can do this upon a table top by holding the cig like a pencil/pen and tapping it repeatedly. Or you can use a paperclip/small thin object to pack the top of the cigarette. This will make the beginning drags more pleasurable as the tobacco is packed tightly.
4) Inspect your cigarette upon completion. What can you do better?
If it's bulging in the middle, less tobacco next time (or spread it out better).
If it's breaking at the filter, more tobacco in that area and more saliva on the gum.
If it's unrolling, lick again and allow more time to dry.
If it's falling out the end, roll tighter next time.
If it drags really hard, roller tighter and slimmer.
If it's too hard to drag, less tobacco (you can also fix this sometimes by rolling the thickest parts lightly between your fingers - this will move the tobacco about and create air pathways).

Remember, practice makes perfect.

- August

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Too bad I made a promise only to smoke through the summer break. That guide has made me feel like a roll up right now.

[dogfooddi]

i smoke winstons. they are supposedly additive free. but since people assume that means a safer cigarette, they had to remove that label. i used to roll my own cigarettes but bits of tobacco get everywhere and it's kind of irritating. those free radicals are in the paper anyway.
i work at a bar and i keep a bag behind the counter with me sometimes. i always have drunks trying to shmooze a cigarette off me and that way i can just roll them one and retain my pack. they either accept it and look really happy about it or ask someone else for one. usually the latter.

[dogfooddi]

as far as tins going stale, toss them in the freezer, take out what you need for a day and put it in a ziploc baggie.

[Fictional]

as far as tins going stale, toss them in the freezer, take out what you need for a day and put it in a ziploc baggie.
Never knew you could do that :O
How long would it take to defrost?

[dogfooddi]

it doesn't need to, obviously. as long as its in an airtight container it stays fresh. ever heard of people keeping cartons in the freezer? just keep sit from drying out.

[IrishWorker]

:)10 Lambert & a box of matchs plz.

[NapAnon]

Also, If you want nice rolled cigarettes without the hassle of doing it the "right" way, You could use the short end of a dollar bill to assist you in rolling. It usually ends up in a very nice thick cigg. Even though it does make you look like a wuss to some people. But usually the people who will poke at you will be shitty rollers themselfs and you can laugh while you smoke a nice cigg.:)

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Really, the best way is to keep practicing. Even a total spacker like me can get good enough to roll unassisted.

[Jazzratt]

Really, the best way is to keep practicing. Even a total spacker like me can get good enough to roll unassisted.

True enough. With practice you can go from rolling nearly unsmokable monstrosities to being able to craft an acceptable fag whilst walking in high winds. Even if you are, as you eloquently put it, a total spacker.

[Bitter Ashes]

True enough. With practice you can go from rolling nearly unsmokable monstrosities to being able to craft an acceptable fag whilst walking in high winds. Even if you are, as you eloquently put it, a total spacker.
lol. I remember smoking those catapillars when I was like 16 too :P

[Clear Air Turbulence]

Whats all this love for the green rizla? It's all about the blue! Because you should at least be able to taste what's killing you.

'Pack of blue rizla please!'
'Large?'
'I know I look a state, but I'm not a pot-head damnit!'

[Clear Air Turbulence]

Plus!
Don't keep your papers in your back pocket. You'll sit on them, they'll get humid and all you'll be left with is a long, embarassing chain of papers stuck together.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Ok, so i recently started rolling my own, and maybe half of them are perfect(by my standards) but my main problem is, after about half of the tobacco in the pouch is used up, it becomes this unrollable collection of tobacco bits.


is there any way to maintain the tobacco in the pouch as the long shreds of tobacco?

[Pawn Power]

Why is this not in chit-chat?

[Rusty Shackleford]

Why is this not in chit-chat?


because its helpful.

[The Broke Cycle]

For those of you who want to grow their own tobacco:

www.tobaccoseed.ca

I was involved in tobacco for a number of years, and did most of the jobs associated with it (boat driving, hanging, sorting, suckering, etc). I did a quick review of the site and it looked pretty good.

[Drace]

The left is more advanced even in their smoking methods :rolleyes:

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Ok, so i recently started rolling my own, and maybe half of them are perfect(by my standards) but my main problem is, after about half of the tobacco in the pouch is used up, it becomes this unrollable collection of tobacco bits.


is there any way to maintain the tobacco in the pouch as the long shreds of tobacco?

You can rehydrate this by putting some peel of a potato in it. I found this on the net and believe me it does work. You need to just put a few pieces peel round the tobacco and leave em there for eight hours or so. It will be moist at first and hard to smoke but it will then dry back to normal tobacco again.

[Rusty Shackleford]

You can rehydrate this by putting some peel of a potato in it. I found this on the net and believe me it does work. You need to just put a few pieces peel round the tobacco and leave em there for eight hours or so. It will be moist at first and hard to smoke but it will then dry back to normal tobacco again.


alright, ill give it a shot with my next bag. im almost done with this one.

[Bitter Ashes]

Yeah, it is vastly money saving and reduces dependance on tobacco company processing.

Anyway, those little bits at the bottom are still usable. You just have to pack them in a bit tighter. Dont worry, they'll still burn because they're smaller flakes. You'll probably pack them in too loosly a few times, or have it sneaking out of the end as you're rolling for a while, but you get better at it with practice. No point throwing it away anyway :)

[Bitter Ashes]

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You can rehydrate this by putting some peel of a potato in it. I found this on the net and believe me it does work. You need to just put a few pieces peel round the tobacco and leave em there for eight hours or so. It will be moist at first and hard to smoke but it will then dry back to normal tobacco again.
But for goodness sake, please remember to take the potato out after 24 hours. You'd be shocked how quickly it can go mouldy and how quickly that can spread to your tobacco too.

Maybe he doesnt smoke as much as me, but I dont usualy have the problem of the pouch getting too dry anyway, so long as I remember to close it afterwards and tape it shut. If I was smoking a bigger pack though, then I use the potato trick too.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Yeah don't keep it in too long, it gets too moist. I've never had the moulding problem though, that's nasty.

[Bitter Ashes]

Yeah don't keep it in too long, it gets too moist. I've never had the moulding problem though, that's nasty.
I'd got a massive 2oz pack of tobacco from the black market rather than the 1/2oz that I usualy get and naturaly, it lasted four times longer than usual, so I forgot to take it out until I'd realised it'd shuffled down to the bottom of pack two weeks earlier and spread mould to a good 4 days worth of tobacco :(

[which doctor]

Why use a potato?

Just wet a paper towel, fold it up, and stick it and the tobacco in a sealed bag. No mold.