Police stop assassination attempt on Morales

[Coggeh]

Taken from BBC news:

Bolivia's President Evo Morales says three foreigners have been killed after he ordered police to thwart a planned assassination attempt against him.

Security forces killed three alleged international mercenaries in the city of Santa Cruz, Mr Morales said.

Link :http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8003117.stm




Looks like escalations in Bolivia just got heightened .

Their were 5 plotters 3 of which were foreigners , one being from Ireland . 3 out of the 5 are now pronouced dead including the Irish man .

The men were found to have an arsenal of weaponry including C4 , grenades ,modern Sniper rifles and automatic weaponry.

The interrogations should be interesting no doubt .

[Patchd]

Interesting, didn't think Ireland had much interest in Bolivia. I would have expected them to be American nationals, potentially CIA people, didn't expect them to be from Ireland, perhaps they were just individual "terrorists".

[mykittyhasaboner]

Interesting, didn't think Ireland had much interest in Bolivia. I would have expected them to be American nationals, potentially CIA people, didn't expect them to be from Ireland, perhaps they were just individual "terrorists".

While that's a possibility I have my suspicions about this, if you ask me this is a CIA-funded assassination gone wrong. This is of course simply a hypothesis, but still...... who else would want to do this more than the CIA?

[Coggeh]

While that's a possibility I have my suspicions about this, if you ask me this is a CIA-funded assassination gone wrong. This is of course simply a hypothesis, but still...... who else would want to do this more than the CIA?
Could just be mercenaries funded by the right wing in Santa Cruz .

[mykittyhasaboner]

Who are in turn, funded by the CIA. ;) (Perhaps?) :confused:

[Coggeh]

Who are in turn, funded by the CIA. ;) (Perhaps?) :confused:
Probably, Wouldn't be much of a surprise tbh .Leaves me wondering though how many more places are there with weapons like these and what exactly do the right have planned for Bolivia ....

[dez]

I remember reading a book on the afghan-soviet war, made by a photojournalist that was completely disconnected with it. He went with medecins sans frontiers to cross the pakistan-afghani border, and made specific remarks concerning the amount of foreigners he saw in pakistan training people in military affairs that impressed me. He said he was sure some of them were members of intelligence services (MI5/6), while on a pub for foreigners, but most of the people he saw were random war-hungry rightwingers promoting the war on communism/the left.
Dont think its any different with these guys in bolivia, specially considering the amount of nazis there is amongst the santa cruz elite.

[Magdalen]

Interesting, didn't think Ireland had much interest in Bolivia. I would have expected them to be American nationals, potentially CIA people, didn't expect them to be from Ireland, perhaps they were just individual "terrorists".

According to the Times and the Daily Telegraph, the Irishman was Michael Dwyer, a martial arts and weapons expert from County Tipperary, who fought as a mercenary for a extreme-right Croation nationalist organisation during the 1990s. The other two men killed were the apparent ringleader of the group, Eduardo Rosza Flores, a half-Bolivian, half-Hungarian mercenary who also fought in Yugoslavia, and Magyarosi Arpak, a Romanian sniper. Apparently, police attempted to arrest the men peacefully, but were greeted by gunfire and grenades at their hotel. At a nearby storage facility, police later discovered explosives, high-calibre telescopic weapons and what appeared to be travel plans for President Morales's motorcade. The men are also apparently responsible for last week's failed dynamite attack on the Archbishop of Santa Cruz, Cardinal Julio Terrazas. Terrazas has alienated many right-wingers in the Bolivian church by meeting with President Morales on several occasions.

[Red Rebel]

Bolivia and the Movement Towards Socialism is something of great concern to me. The oligarchy is strongest in Bolivia as compared to either Cuba or Venezuela. The recent hunger strike, failed assassination attempt and Morales recent declaration that he is a Marxist.. things are heating up in Bolivia. Hopefully the Bolivian people can stand united against the reactionary attacks from outside and inside their home.

[Dimentio]

Taken from BBC news:

Bolivia's President Evo Morales says three foreigners have been killed after he ordered police to thwart a planned assassination attempt against him.

Security forces killed three alleged international mercenaries in the city of Santa Cruz, Mr Morales said.

Link :http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8003117.stm




Looks like escalations in Bolivia just got heightened .

Their were 5 plotters 3 of which were foreigners , one being from Ireland . 3 out of the 5 are now pronouced dead including the Irish man .

The men were found to have an arsenal of weaponry including C4 , grenades ,modern Sniper rifles and automatic weaponry.

The interrogations should be interesting no doubt .

Is the Bolivian bourgeoisie suicidal?

[STJ]

I know who is behind it the CIA.

[dez]

Is the Bolivian bourgeoisie suicidal?

No, they feel threatened.

[fabilius]

My estimation of Morales just went up.

The more the right wing tries to assasinate you the more you deserve to be a leader.

[dez]

My estimation of Morales just went up.

The more the right wing tries to assasinate you the more you deserve to be a leader.



Morales is not a saviour that threatens the very existance of the world's bourgeoise, but he is a native indian president in a country that is widely racist against them.

[pastradamus]

Morales is not a saviour that threatens the very existance of the world's bourgeoise, but he is a native indian president in a country that is widely racist against them.

Yeah,I agree. I mean Morales never claimed to be a messiah. He did however claim to be a left-wing Indigenous president of the poorest country in south America. That's a great achievement for the indigenous Bolivian Working class simply to have him there.

Also Magdalen was correct on the Irish guy involved. The same guy was actively involved in The Irish Far-Right over here. Also a well-trained expert in Kung Fu having founded a club here in Cork. Little else I know of him.

[Coggeh]

Morales is not a saviour that threatens the very existance of the world's bourgeoise, but he is a native indian president in a country that is widely racist against them.
racist against the bourgeoise ? or the bourgeois racist against indigenous ?:confused:

[Bright Banana Beard]

racist against the bourgeoise ? or the bourgeois racist against indigenous ?:confused:
The bourgeois racist against indigenous. It is well known fact that bourgeois even tried to attempted to breakaway from Bolivia.

[Kamerat]

What i cant understand is why whould the bourgeois think that killing 1 man would stop the revolution/reformism to socialism.
“I know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man.”

[Dimentio]

What i cant understand is why whould the bourgeois think that killing 1 man would stop the revolution/reformism to socialism.

If they succeeded, Bolivia could have become a bloodbath.

[Coggeh]

Interesting quote from the times :



The authorities said the men had planned to attach explosives to a boat when Morales and his cabinet travelled on it two weeks ago near the PeruBolivia border. The Bolivians also said the men had planted explosives at the house of a cardinal last week and had planned to attack Ruben Costas, an opposition politician.





Costas, the governor of the Santa Cruz region who has clashed with Morales in the past, said he doubted the government’s version of events. “This has been cheaply staged; this is a show,” he said


Now its confusing ......

[dez]

Interesting quote from the times :

The Bolivians also said the men had planted explosives at the house of a cardinal last week and had planned to attack Ruben Costas, an opposition politician.





Costas, the governor of the Santa Cruz region who has clashed with Morales in the past, said he doubted the government’s version of events. “This has been cheaply staged; this is a show,” he said


Now its confusing ......


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_of_tension

A strategy of tension (Italian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_language): strategia della tensione) is an alleged way used by world powers to divide, manipulate, and control public opinion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion) using fear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear), propaganda (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda), disinformation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation), psychological warfare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare), agents provocateurs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur), as well as false flag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag) terrorist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism) actions.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_of_tension#cite_note-0)
The term "strategy of tension" was first used in an article appeared in the newspaper "The Observer" on December 7th 1969. According to the Observer the United States together with the then fascist Greek government decided to support far-right terrorist groups in order to spread panic among population and create the demand for a "strong" government (i.e. a dictatorship) in Italy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy) and Turkey, whose democratic institutions appeared to be weak and threatened by Communism to some observers.

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It is an old strategy.
Ancient, some would say.

They meekly attempted to do it here in brazil when the military dictatorship was falling to pieces (like 30 years ago).

[Coggeh]

Very interesting point , and duly noted . What do others think ?


I'm very confused on this one.

[Hoxhaist]

These are probable mercenaries hired by Bolivian plutocrats opposed to Morales or the CIA or a cabal of both groups

[dez]

These are probable mercenaries hired by Bolivian plutocrats opposed to Morales or the CIA or a cabal of both groups

Probably willing rightwingers informed of the danger and facilitated way into the country and onto arms.

[Comrade B]

Interesting quote from the times :

Quote:
The authorities said the men had planned to attach explosives to a boat when Morales and his cabinet travelled on it two weeks ago near the PeruBolivia border. The Bolivians also said the men had planted explosives at the house of a cardinal last week and had planned to attack Ruben Costas, an opposition politician.





Costas, the governor of the Santa Cruz region who has clashed with Morales in the past, said he doubted the government’s version of events. “This has been cheaply staged; this is a show,” he said

Now its confusing ......
Probably just trying to cover his own ass. Hasn't he hired mercenaries to kill Morales supporters in the past?
If Morales dies he loses a large face of his opposition. Morales has an 80% approval rating last I heard. No way his entire party is that popular, without Morales political competition could potentially be much weaker for the Santa Cruz politicians. Morales should have this man arrested. He is a violent threat to the peace of the country and attempting to force himself into a position of more power.