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black magick hustla
16th April 2009, 11:38
http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=2009trotsky-cookies



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http://news.infoshop.org/images/topics/inews_directaction.gif (http://news.infoshop.org/index.php?topic=36)Eighty eight years of the day Trotsky directed the suppression of the anarchist uprising in Krondstadt, a group of bandits scaled the walls of his former house in Mexico City during the late hours at night. We broke the lock on his mausoleum and we expropriate the content inside it: a silver large vase that bears the inscription of his name, wrapped in the red scarf that he carried around the neck, containing the ashes of the corpse inside. We replace with care the lock in the monument with a reproduction that was similar in the appearance and escaped into the night.
Repost of english translation:
Eighty eight years of the day Trotsky directed the suppression of the anarchist uprising in Krondstadt, a group of bandits scaled the walls of his former house in Mexico City during the late hours at night. We broke the lock on his mausoleum and we expropriate the content inside it: a silver large vase that bears the inscription of his name, wrapped in the red scarf that he carried around the neck, containing the ashes of the corpse inside. We replace with care the lock in the monument with a reproduction that was similar in the appearance and escaped into the night.
The vase along with its content then was taken far away to a place where the vase was discarded and the content (a combination of ash and bone) were baked in cookies. These cookies then were sent, along with a letter that explains our actions, to newspapers, to organizations of Trotskyists, and to the groups of anarchist around the world.
While we will not repeat everything of our full letter, briefly we propose to give new light to the idea that history does not end with the past and still a small group of bandits can give new direction to fights thought long to be frozen in the time. We want to expand the fight to include dead objects of the past that hold hostage us in the present.
Nevertheless, if Trotsky is right about the history, we do not determine anything, but we are only characters whose actions were written in the revolution of October. As was his destiny, coincidentally, to come to be a cookie.
The ones that receive these cookies have a decision. Through time, the act to consume enemies have been seen as a way to absorb their powers. On the other hand, consuming the body and the blood of the dead person as a sacrament have also been a form of worship. We would want to indicate that, at any rate, the result is always shit.
For those a little delicate, we have tried them, and although they be a little sandy, they are delicious. The green dots, by the way, they are just candies.



I don't know how true is this btw. I kindof think it is a hoax. I can see how some stupid motherfuckers thought this was a good idea though.

Tower of Bebel
16th April 2009, 11:50
This is already the 7th thread. All previous ones were moved to the trashcan (http://www.revleft.com/vb/trashcan-f34/index.html).

Dimentio
16th April 2009, 11:50
Trotsky must be Jesus.

black magick hustla
16th April 2009, 11:51
Why where they moved to the traschan? Its an important issue, I think. Well not that important but I really want to know what people think about this.

RedAnarchist
16th April 2009, 11:53
I would move it to Chit Chat but the resident morons there would derail the thread. I'm going to leave it in Politics for now, but I really don't think this story is true.

Tower of Bebel
16th April 2009, 11:53
Fear of (borderline) sectarianism I guess. It's a stupid action anyway because symbolic actions, especially from minorities or small groups, don't have anything to do with class struggle.

OneNamedNameLess
16th April 2009, 12:55
This sounds ridiculous. I was amused and interested the first couple of times but i'm just sick of this appearing constantly. It's becoming the new Nostradamus thing if anyone remembers.

Andropov
16th April 2009, 13:02
Shocking individual terrorists.
Tut tut.

Zurdito
16th April 2009, 13:02
I'm sure the Mexican working class will take anarchism seriously now, and not at all view such people as ridiculous middle class parasites with the personality of attention deficient children.

black magick hustla
16th April 2009, 13:22
the issue here is not desecrating dead people. its the motives behind it that are kindof dumb. i would love to have my ashes turned into cookies

Sasha
16th April 2009, 13:44
i want my ashes turned in tattoo's

Pogue
16th April 2009, 13:54
What an odd and pointless thing to do.

Communist Theory
16th April 2009, 14:45
This is getting really annoying.

Catbus
16th April 2009, 16:22
Assuming that this story is true (which I kind of doubt), did they see any outcome from this other than furthering more bullshit sectarianism?

YSR
16th April 2009, 18:44
I have repeatedly asked anarchists in Mexico City about this and they hadn't heard of it before. I have yet to see the "original" release. Note that the release says it is translated. Has anyone seen the untranslated Spanish version?

It's a hoax, ya'll, probably perpetrated by anglos.

Random Precision
16th April 2009, 18:51
I doubt this is true, seeing as every post comes from exactly the same source and I haven't been able to find anything else about it online- you'd think that the Trotsky Museum in Coyoacan might have something to say about it, for instance. :rolleyes:

Plus this "communication" is completely clueless. Kronstadt was not an anarchist rebellion, anarchists had no involvement with it, and Trotsky was not responsible for its suppression. They should go to Russia and try to find and cokkiefy Zinoviev's remains if anything.

piet11111
16th April 2009, 19:00
it disturbs me that someone could be so sectarian to do such a thing.
but i also find is amusing that it strikes directly at the other major problem amongst the left namely the "hero" worship.

but then again its cookies so i am sort of OK with it.

black magick hustla
16th April 2009, 19:05
I have repeatedly asked anarchists in Mexico City about this and they hadn't heard of it before. I have yet to see the "original" release. Note that the release says it is translated. Has anyone seen the untranslated Spanish version?

It's a hoax, ya'll, probably perpetrated by anglos.

Yeah, this is true. Still, as you can see from infoshop, the attitudes of some anarchists is disturbing. heh gotta show em evil bolshies what we anarchos are made of *generic anarchist rants about trotsky*. This is probably just an american phenomenon though.

black magick hustla
16th April 2009, 19:06
it disturbs me that someone could be so sectarian to do such a thing.
but i also find is amusing that it strikes directly at the other major problem amongst the left namely the "hero" worship.

but then again its cookies so i am sort of OK with it.

its not 'bout hero worship though. I am not even a trotskyist. Its just so goddamn disrespectful man. Especially on someone who was overall a good man.

nuisance
16th April 2009, 19:13
HAHAHAHA
Yes, it is a hoax. Y'all don't be getting your knickers in a twist.

Communist Theory
16th April 2009, 19:16
HAHAHAHA
Yes, it is a hoax. Y'all don't be getting your knickers in a twist.
You are a fountain of wisdom!

AvanteRedGarde
16th April 2009, 19:40
And people wonder why noone like Anarchists besides Anarchists themselves.

YSR
16th April 2009, 19:45
Marmot, I actually agree with you about the stuff on Infoshop about it. It's stupid that it's a hoax, but it'd be stupider if it actually happened.

I'm not going to apologize for them, but you know how people are on the internet...

piet11111
16th April 2009, 20:03
its not 'bout hero worship though. I am not even a trotskyist. Its just so goddamn disrespectful man. Especially on someone who was overall a good man.

no but i am not talking about you though we all know that there are some people that are actually worshiping the guy.
that is why i said that its disturbing someone would be able to do such a disrespectful act out of sectarianism.
but that those hero worshiping types get pissed off about such a thing amuses me.

and yeah i expected this to be a fake news report but there probably are people that are willing to do such a thing if given the opportunity.

GracchusBabeuf
16th April 2009, 20:29
Ridiculous if true or if false.

griffjam
16th April 2009, 21:22
Photos of the theft

http://bayimg.com/aApLiAABa
http://bayimg.com/AapllAAbA

a photo of the grave from the rear (where the door is)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cdssQZkeskc/SKiIi8jNSDI/AAAAAAAAATM/0wQnIW6KPhM/s200/trot06.jpg

a photo of the grave from the front
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/32/54629614_2b28c93dfd.jpg?v=1129919094

Cumannach
16th April 2009, 23:41
Are those photos genuine? Wouldn't this have made a local newspaper if this crap was real. Either way, what a crowd of sick insane fucks.

Jack
16th April 2009, 23:52
There's pictures on Infoshop for all you who kept saying it was "fake".

Revy
17th April 2009, 00:27
His grandson actually lives in Mexico City. Maybe they thought since he was a man of the past nobody would be hurt by their actions, and they would be wrong.
they're also insane with the "consuming his ashes to become powerful" line. wow.

YSR
17th April 2009, 00:40
Still have yet to see anything in Mexico City newspapers...a couple of pictures of something that looks like it doesn't convince me.

Enragé
17th April 2009, 01:27
the irony is ofcourse that if this did indeed happen trotsky lives on in the people who ate the cookies...

al8
17th April 2009, 01:51
It seems quite clear to me that they're saying with their sybolic action that the 'dead weight of the past is a hinderance on the presently living' and that they from that try to mock a symbol of that, in this case Trotsky's remains, in an irreverent and somewhat kitsch way, in an effort to brake away from the dead weight. Maybe it is somewhat of a pointless wankery, but I myself found this amusing. It's certainly a novel way to get your point across.

skki
17th April 2009, 02:26
I doubt this is real. Been over a day and still nothing from Google News
But if it is; lol.