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redwinter
15th April 2009, 02:19
http://www.revcom.us/a/162/david_sun-en.html

Hands Off David! Drop The Charges! Stop the Attack on a Young Revolutionary!

Oakland is a place where police brutality is a daily occurrence. Where stop and searches, beatings and police murders go on with impunity by official policy. The cold-blooded murder of Oscar Grant—who was punched, pinned to the ground, and shot in the back by BART police on New Year's Day, in the middle of a frenzied attack by police on numerous Black and Latino youth—was an ugly snapshot exposing the all too real essence of what this system does to people of color and youth in particular.


David, a 16-year-old member of the Revolution Club, is now facing two felony charges and one misdemeanor stemming from his arrest on the night of January 7 in Oakland, when people stood up against this outrage. David did not commit any crime that evening, and is being wrongly accused. The same system that murdered Oscar Grant is now trying to silence the resistance and keep it from spreading.


David has been on the front lines of this struggle and as hundreds of people, youth in particular, lifted their heads and marched through the streets of Oakland that night, defiant in the face of a heavy police presence, David brought Revolution newspaper out to the people and led chants—"We are ALL Oscar Grant!" and "The Whole System is Guilty!"—that raised the consciousness and struck a chord with all who were out there.



For this, he is under attack. At one point David and five others were singled out by the cops. Suddenly the block was sealed off by about twenty police and an armored truck, and they were surrounded. David was tackled and arrested by five cops. While Mehserle, the cop who murdered Oscar Grant was walking free, David was locked up.



The police came down with force on many that evening—SWAT team and an armored personnel vehicle, swinging batons and deploying tear gas canisters, rubber pellets, etc. Over 120 people were arrested and most charges were later dropped. David is now one of only three charged with felonies, and the only juvenile being charged.


David, a Latino youth from East Oakland, is under attack because he is a revolutionary and a communist, and because he is a leader who is telling the truth and organizing resistance. As a member of the Revolution Club, a group that has been fighting police brutality, calling out the rotten system that causes it in the first place, and widely promoting revolution and communism, he has been calling on the youth to join and help build a movement for revolution.


An Attack on the People

There are many people, from all walks of life, who have taken up the fight for justice for Oscar Grant with a variety of goals, strategies, and tactics, and this attack on David is an attack on them as well. The powers-that-be are sending a clear message, "stand up to us, and we'll put you away."


This attack on David is also an attack against all the people starting to lift their heads to fight and question the kind of society they live in. There are millions of people, youth especially, who are criminalized and suffer at the hands of this rotten system on a daily basis. Many of these youth, in the Bay Area especially, have been inspired by and drawn to the righteous resistance that flared up in the wake of Oscar Grant's death. You can literally see it on the streets in the "Oscar Grant lives!" and "I am Oscar Grant" graffiti that has blossomed on the walls of in Oakland. And you can hear it in people's voices when they speak with pride about being out in the streets on January 7, a night when police murder wasn't allowed to go down as "business as usual." The Revolution Club is bringing a revolutionary communist consciousness into this struggle, showing why police murder is an inherent part of this capitalist system, how police under such a system can only "serve and protect" this oppressive system, and the fact that the solution lies in building a revolutionary movement with the final goal of sweeping away this truly monstrous system.


It's a big political and ideological threat to the enemy when there are growing numbers of young people who begin to take up revolutionary communism; when young people begin to see the violence of the system as wrong, illegitimate and unnecessary, and that a better world—a communist world—is possible and worth fighting to bring into being. This is what David is about spreading. The people who run this country can't run their society and keep all the injustices going if these young people begin to break out and challenge their system and fight for a new system. David is an example they need to attack to send a "you better not" message.


Stop the Attack on a Young Revolutionary
David's leadership and dedication to bringing about a radically different, and far better world must not be suppressed by the state. It is crucial that people expose the state's attacks and build mass political resistance to defend David and others who have stepped forward to fight police brutality and murder.



At David's first pre-trial hearing, fifteen people came to support him and demand the charges be dropped. They were not allowed into the courtroom because David is a juvenile (David's lawyer made a motion to open the proceedings which was denied), although the support did have the effect of putting the system "on notice" that this attack on a young revolutionary is not going to go down without a fight.


Since then, a legal defense committee has formed to expose this attack and call on people to rally to his defense. David has been on local radio, speaking passionately about how his case is a part of the overall struggle for justice for Oscar Grant and how it fits within the context of building a revolutionary movement. His case has resonated with everyone who sees the need for real change, and at his most recent pretrial hearing, over twenty people showed up to demand the charges be dropped, and two local TV stations were there to cover the case. After a press conference, those who came to show their support sat down together and took turns speaking about why they came to the courthouse. Heartfelt statements were made about David's leadership, the need to fight for Oscar Grant, and the need to foster more youth joining a revolutionary movement.


The Revolution Club is calling on people from all walks of life to be part of taking on this attack, turning it around, and bringing many more people into the battle for Justice for Oscar Grant and the revolutionary movement. That means spreading the word and organizing forces around this case, signing onto the defense committee petition, and building growing legal and political support for David!


HANDS OFF DAVID! DROP THE CHARGES!
STOP THE ATTACK ON A YOUNG REVOLUTIONARY!


Upcoming Court Dates:
Discovery Hearing—June 15
Trial Date—July 20


For more information and to get involved contact the Revolution Club: 510.725.8754 or email the Defense Committee at [email protected]

( R )evolution
15th April 2009, 21:59
I support David! I read about this today in Revolution, and I was shocked and utterly disgusted not only by the brutality of the cold-blooded murder of Oscar Grant and of the charges being pressed against David. It is sicking and I suggest all comrades take a look at the video of the killing of Oscar Grant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKKQ-gzc_Yw (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vd3d3LnlvdXR1YmUuY29tL3dhdGNoP3Y9WktLUS 1nemNfWXc=)

KC
17th April 2009, 18:28
Was there ever any proof that the murder of Oscar Grant was intentional and that the cop didn't accidentally fire his gun? I've never seen any evidence that it was intentional.

Kassad
17th April 2009, 18:59
KC, there's videos everywhere. Oscar Grant was on his stomach, spread-fucking-eagle, and the cop draws his gun, puts it to his back and fires. I don't give two shits if it did misfire. The cop put his gun to a defenseless and unarmed man's back.

C.B.
17th April 2009, 20:46
KC, there's videos everywhere. Oscar Grant was on his stomach, spread-fucking-eagle, and the cop draws his gun, puts it to his back and fires. I don't give two shits if it did misfire. The cop put his gun to a defenseless and unarmed man's back.

Exactly, what was the purpose of drawing his gun? Also why were they being detained? Does anyone have any info on that?

Kassad
17th April 2009, 21:19
Exactly, what was the purpose of drawing his gun? Also why were they being detained? Does anyone have any info on that?

Grant and someone else were fighting.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/30/MNOP15JI6F.DTL

They were detained. Grant is sitting up and then is basically mauled for whatever reason. You see the cop draw his gun and fire. There are absolutely no witnesses claiming Grant was armed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVsncZ7K584&feature=channel

KC
17th April 2009, 21:33
KC, there's videos everywhere. Oscar Grant was on his stomach, spread-fucking-eagle, and the cop draws his gun, puts it to his back and fires. I don't give two shits if it did misfire. The cop put his gun to a defenseless and unarmed man's back.

I've seen the video. I think what happened was that the cop was flustered, pulled his gun for whatever reason and it went off accidentally. Glocks are notorious for this. I highly doubt that the cop would intentionally pull his gun and shoot someone in front of hundreds of people; it just makes no sense whatsoever. The cop should be charged with manslaughter.

redwinter
17th April 2009, 21:56
ahh...so now the trots openly side with the cops who murdered an innocent man. i'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

let's worry about getting justice for this brutal murder and defending the revolutionaries who stood up to fight for the people.

Kamerat
17th April 2009, 23:50
I've seen the video. I think what happened was that the cop was flustered, pulled his gun for whatever reason and it went off accidentally. Glocks are notorious for this. I highly doubt that the cop would intentionally pull his gun and shoot someone in front of hundreds of people; it just makes no sense whatsoever. The cop should be charged with manslaughter.
You have not watched the video close enough. The fascist murder uses 2-3 secunds to get his gun out of his gun holster and then he stands up aims with both hands and fires while Oscar Grant lying on the groud completly still, 1 other fascist are holding him down and another steps back when he sees the murder aiming the gun at Oscar. Why do you highly doubt that the fascist murder would do this intentionally? There are many sick people especially among the fascist.

Hands of David and justice for the murder on Oscar Grant have my support.

Cooler Reds Will Prevail
17th April 2009, 23:54
The article in Revolution never specified what the charges were that were brought against him, does anybody have any information from an outside source?

I've known David for a while, he's a good kid, I'd help out in this fight to drop the charges against him but seeing as how I've been shunned by the RCP for being involved with Kasama, I don't think they'd let me haha.

Anyway best of luck to everybody working on this.

Pogue
17th April 2009, 23:56
I hope he gets out of this OK.

KC
17th April 2009, 23:59
ahh...so now the trots openly side with the cops who murdered an innocent man. i'm not even going to dignify that with a response.Yes, because it being an accidental shooting is impossible. You won't dignify it with a response other than your sectist turd of a post because you are unable to even consider the possibility.


let's worry about getting justice for this brutal murder and defending the revolutionaries who stood up to fight for the people.Yes, and to hell with finding out what actually happened.:rolleyes:

But we all know you're not concerned with the truth; you're in the RCP, after all. Weren't you the one that said that the RCP was leading the proletariat in this struggle for justice for Oscar Grant?

Kassad
18th April 2009, 00:35
KC, I agree with your criticisms of the Revolutionary Communist Party, but you're just totally wrong on this Oscar Grant issue. I understand that it's totally possible for a firearm to misfire, but why was a gun drawn in the first place against an unarmed man who was on the ground, totally defenseless? I mean, it wasn't even a taser or a baton. It was a pistol. If this was an accident, then it was an incredibly careless action that should result in this officer facing manslaughter charges and being removed from the police force. Regardless, I seriously doubt this was any kind of accident, as police brutality and racism run rampant in the United States.

KC
18th April 2009, 01:18
you're just totally wrong on this Oscar Grant issue.Oh, really? Let's see what you have to say about it:


I understand that it's totally possible for a firearm to misfire, but why was a gun drawn in the first place against an unarmed man who was on the ground, totally defenseless? I mean, it wasn't even a taser or a baton. It was a pistol. If this was an accident, then it was an incredibly careless action that should result in this officer facing manslaughter charges and being removed from the police force.Hmm, that sounds like exactly what I am saying.


Regardless, I seriously doubt this was any kind of accident, as police brutality and racism run rampant in the United States.And I seriously doubt that this was police brutality, as the cop would have to be clinically insane or mentally impaired not to realize that there's hundreds of people around and that shooting someone is illegal. It makes absolutley no sense that this would be police brutality. Cops that usually do this are smart enough not to do it in front of witnesses (that they can't trust, so other cops are excluded) or involving incriminating evidence. That is why we have only seen a handful of these cases exposed, and why they are so sensational. It makes much more sense that the cop was flustered/panicking/nervous/etc... because of the atmosphere at the time and reflexively drew his gun, which accidentally went off due to the Glock's trigger safety.

http://www.gunblast.com/images/Glock26/DSC03047.jpg

Glocks are notorious for accidental misfires.

#FF0000
18th April 2009, 01:48
I've seen the video. I think what happened was that the cop was flustered, pulled his gun for whatever reason and it went off accidentally. Glocks are notorious for this. I highly doubt that the cop would intentionally pull his gun and shoot someone in front of hundreds of people; it just makes no sense whatsoever. The cop should be charged with manslaughter.

You do not ever, ever point a gun at anything you don't want to kill. Much less put your finger on the trigger

That is one of the cardinal rules of handling a weapon. There is no excuse. He might not have up and shot him in cold blood, but he pulled a gun on a defenseless man finger on trigger.

There is no such thing as "accidental" misfire. Accidental misfires are Negligent misfires.

So the cop either murdered a man or handled a gun like a fucking infant. Either way a man is dead. I could care less of this idiot made a mistake or not.

FAKE EDIT: bold and big to show I'm mad.
Real Edit: And, yeah it probably is manslaughter. I can't imagine this cop straight up executing someone in front of a subway full of people (but then again, who knows). However you're making it sound like a total accident. The cop is completely and totally responsible. Why split hairs about it?

KC
18th April 2009, 02:09
You do not ever, ever point a gun at anything you don't want to kill. Much less put your finger on the trigger

That is one of the cardinal rules of handling a weapon. There is no excuse. He might not have up and shot him in cold blood, but he pulled a gun on a defenseless man finger on trigger.

There is no such thing as "accidental" misfire. Accidental misfires are Negligent misfires.

Which, if you were paying attention, is what I was saying it was.


Real Edit: And, yeah it probably is manslaughter. I can't imagine this cop straight up executing someone in front of a subway full of people (but then again, who knows). However you're making it sound like a total accident. The cop is completely and totally responsible. Why split hairs about it?

I'm not making it sound like an accident at all; I even clearly said that he should be charged with manslaughter. What I'm contesting is that people are attempting to portray this as an intentional homicide. I have no problem at all with condemning any of this, but I have a problem with lying to further your agenda. And that is exactly what calling this intentional is.

Kassad
18th April 2009, 02:13
It's totally ignorant to rule out the possibility of this being intentional. It could've been an accident as well, but ruling out that it could've been intentional is absurd. The police are aware that they are above the law and often times will get away with murder; literally and figuratively.

KC
18th April 2009, 02:43
It's totally ignorant to rule out the possibility of this being intentional.

I never ruled out the possibility; I said that based on what we know it's most likely manslaughter. It's totally ignorant to call it intentional murder/homicide/an execution, etc...


The police are aware that they are above the law and often times will get away with murder; literally and figuratively.

Yes, I'm sure that this cop just said "Hey, I could totally get away with shooting him. All that would happen to me is that I'd get fired, lose my job, be socially ostracized and have to find a different occupation. Piece of cake!"

Kassad
18th April 2009, 02:46
So under this rash assumption, it would be illogical to assume any police officer has ever unjustly killed someone?

KC
18th April 2009, 02:53
So under this rash assumption, it would be illogical to assume any police officer has ever unjustly killed someone?Yes, every single police officer is an upstanding citizen just doing their job and that any incident that happens such as this one is not the fault of the officers but of the others involved. I love the police and think they should all be trusted to enforce the laws of this society, and that we should support them in that effort even in cases like this.


Is that the response you were fishing for?


EDIT: By the way Kassad, I don't know if you realized this or not (either you didn't read my post or you didn't understand it), but you already agreed with me completely after saying how wrong I was.:rolleyes:

Cooler Reds Will Prevail
20th April 2009, 08:18
KC makes a good point here. Now, I don't think that it was premeditated, as in, I don't think Mehserle just decided when he got to the station that he was going to shoot somebody. However, I think this was definitely an act of racism that played out in the heat of the moment. Had this been white kids, a gun would have never been pulled in the first place. I agree with Rorschach that the term "accidental misfire" is a total misnomer; a gun doesn't just go off by itself. Even if he didn't pull the trigger all the way, there had to have been some contact with it that would cause it to go off, no?

Since California doesn't have 3rd degree murder, I think this would qualify as 2nd degree or voluntary manslaughter. The problem with a voluntary manslaughter conviction is that it would have to fall under the pretense that the officer was "provoked", which he was not. Involuntary manslaughter doesn't work either, since this amounted to more than gross negligence, and I feel, was done with malicious intent, even if the intention was not to kill.

But back to the topic:

Nobody knows what the charges were against David?