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bellyscratch
15th April 2009, 01:31
I have a friend who is into what he describes as 'Lawful Rebellion'. Its basically about how people are finding certain laws which stop them from paying taxes, paying back loans, tv license etc as way to rebel against the system in a way which strikes me as similar to the mass strike, from the way he describes it to me.

Is this something that people could use as another tool to struggle against the capitalist state?

Personally I don't know how it could be coordinated in a way that it could be effective and cause any real damage except on a personal level to write off your own debt. Yet he seems to believe it to be a way to bring the system down...

This is a website which goes in to a bit more detail http://www.tpuc.org/

Hoxhaist
15th April 2009, 01:38
lawful rebellion seems to be a an oxymoron

Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor
15th April 2009, 02:46
When people find laws like that, they are either there for a reason, or they will be removed eventually. Most of those laws exist so the rich can engage in tax evasion anyway. The rich can afford things on their own. They don't need the state except to oppress others. If you stop funding the state, you don't really do anything. A lot of that money goes back to you anyway. The real source of capitalist domination is the labor and money they make off people working. The state is just an apparatus of control.

Most of the financial loopholes that the system allows are closed over time. They also benefit the rich, in most cases. For instance, a loophole that allows you to get taxed at a lower tax bracket, for instance, only helps you if you're already above that tax bracket.

Bitter Ashes
15th April 2009, 08:36
It's useful, but in a limited sense.

As pointed out above, these laws are there first and foremost to protect the rich. The level of benefit you gain as a poorer member of society are not as great and also the impact you make as an individual would be tiny, while en-masse, that loophole would be closed. It could be handy for helping to support further action though. For example, gaining financial support to work less hours, so you can commit to bieng more active. By themselves they are of little use I'm afraid.

bellyscratch
15th April 2009, 12:43
I agree with both of you. It seems like it takes far too much time to research and educate yourself about these laws, for what looks like too little reward. I know my friend has started going to court over some of these things too.