Top ten favorite hiphop/reggae/ska

[GWF]

What are you're best hiphop, reggae or ska bands or single artists? Mine are:

1. Bob Marley and the Wailers
2. Sublime
3. DMX
4. Snoop Dogg
5. M.O.P.
6. Xzibit
7. Fugees
8. Cypress Hill
9. Deliquent Habits
10. Ice Cube

[Rob]

1. Marley
2. Ska-era Wailers (very different than Marley's later stuff)
3. Symarip
4. The Specials
5. Inspecter 7
6. Desmond Dekker
7. Derrick Morgan
8. Laurel Aitken
9. Public Enemy (well, if I've gotta include rap)
10. The Coup

[PunkRawker677]

Marley and Sublime..

nuff said..

[abstractmentality]

no particular order:

1. bob marley
2. Jurassic 5
3. Visionaries
4. Dilated Peoples
5. Sublime
6. Black starr (mos def and talib kweli)
7. gangstar (guru and dj premier)

[Sasafrás]

Unfortunately, the hip-hop & reggae I listen to are limited (I listen to Latin music mostly). I don't do ska much at all...

1. Mos Def
2. The Fugees
3. Common (Sense)
4. Bob Marley
5. Talib Kweli
6. N*E*R*D (The Neptunes)
7. Makiza
8. Fonky Family's pretty good...


(Edited by La Rainbeaux at 8:25 pm on July 23, 2002)

[lohman2k]

bob marley & Gentleman (German Reggae Artist, really cool, anybody know him?)
and many more

[suffianr]

I heard a ska version of a Frank Sinatra song, New York New York, superb, don't know who it was though...The Get Up Kids??

[sugarcandy113]

Reel Big fish did a ska version of New York New York...i heard it at my friends house.

In no order at all(dnt listen 2 much hip hop/reggae)

1.Less Than Jake
2.The Specials
3.Spunge
4.Madness
5.Selector

Yeah thats about all i cant think of rite now!

[abstractmentality]

Quote: from La Rainbeaux on 6:24 pm on July 23, 2002

6. N*E*R*D (The Neptunes)



i was supposed ot see them in concert, but i tried to get tickets too late and they were sold out :( only 20 bucks too.

[mcleodstickle]

Quote: from sugarcandy113 on 7:32 pm on July 24, 2002
Reel Big fish did a ska version of New York New York...i heard it at my friends house.

In no order at all(dnt listen 2 much hip hop/reggae)

1.Less Than Jake
2.The Specials
3.Spunge
4.Madness
5.Selector

Yeah thats about all i cant think of rite now!


YEA CLAIRE!!! well done i proud of u... ill say the same!

[Inti]

1. Tiro de Gracia
2. Gondwana
3. Keon
4. Pericos
5. Ska P
6. Timbuktu
7. Advance Patrol
8. Profezhya
9. Ari
10. Vico C

In no special order.. They are just some of the best ones.. Its really difficult to rate them.. Paz

[Umoja]

No real order-

1. Dead Prez
2. Coup
3. Askari X
4. Chaka Demus & Pliers
5. Freundnekris (The english speaking guy, Sekou or something...)
6. Bounty Killer
7. Talib Kweli
8. Tupac
9. Mos Def
10. Last Poets

[dsmtuner]

In no particular order:

Bob Marley
Sublime
Dead Prez
Non-Phixion
The Coup
Zack De Da Rocha
A Tribe Called Quest
Swollen Members
J5
Dilate Peoples
Barrington Levy
Outkast
Blackalicious

[canikickit]

In particular order: Bob Marley - last on the list of good reggae.

[list]Lee Perry and all his productions - top of the list of all good music ever made.
King Tubby and all his impressively engineered masterpieces.
Augustus Pablo and all his shimmering, floating melodica melodies.
Keith Hudson and his atmospheric productions with strange sounding vocals, and pissed off sentiments.[list]

[Dirty Commie]

What about favourite songs?

I've only got one, all the others are only mediocre, Redemption Song-Bob Marley.

[Rastafari]

hahaha...Steel Pulse on the album "Handsworth Revolution," the best of the British Reggae bands, which isn't saying much methinks

[El Brujo]

1) Symarip
2) Specials
3) Mephiskapheles
4) Voodoo Glow Skulls
5) Bob Marley & Wailers
6) The Congo's
7) Desmond Dekker
8) Madness
9) Dead Prez
10) UB 40

[Rastafari]

UB...40!?!?
Interesting choice among 9 other pretty good acts.

[Liegebeest]

in random order

Madness
the Specials
the Selecter
the Beat
Ska-P
Bob Marley/wailers
Beastie Boys
Osdorp Posse
the Skatalites
Manu Chao live

[mentalbunny]

Erm, I only really listen to those three genres (urgh, evil word) on the radio so I never remember the names of anyone, but I've heard a few absolutely gorgeous reggae tracks on John Peel's show and last night I heard a pretty cool track by Tribe called Quest called Scenario, what do people make of them?

And when does something become ska? As soon as you stick some brass in it? In that case the Tragic Kingdom LP by No Doubt is Ska, by far they're best stuff in my opinion!

[El Brujo]

Quote: from Rastafari on 3:10 am on July 22, 2003
UB...40!?!?
Interesting choice among 9 other pretty good acts.


lol. Well its definitely not for reggae "purists" but I like many of their tunes. "Red Red Wine" among others is quite catchy.

[El Brujo]

Ah yes, how could I forget, DECIBELIOS. I got their cd in the mail yesterday.

They are fundamentaly an oi!/hardcore band but they have some amazing ska songs.

[canikickit]

And when does something become ska?

Ska has a certain, distinct rhythm.
In ska, the emphasis is on the off-beat of the two and four; two-and-a-half beats and four-and-a-half into the song, if you will.
In reggae, the emphasis is on the two and four.

Ska goes - chink-ka...chink-ka...chink-ka...chink-ka...
Reggae goes - chicka...chicka...chicka...chicka...

Reggae sounds completely different to ska, to me at least.
There are plenty of reggae songs with brass instruments.


5) Bob Marley & Wailers
6) The Congo's
7) Desmond Dekker

The Congo's what, El Brujo?

Red Red Wine" among others is quite catchy.

So many times I've seen that labelled as a Bob Marley tune on the likes of Kazaa and Soulseek - it pisses me off.

(Edited by canikickit at 10:05 pm on July 22, 2003)

[mentalbunny]

Thanks for explaining the difference CIKI, very subtle!! When I mentioned brass I was thinking more of the distinction between various kinds of punky stuff.

[Danton]

Lee scratch Perry was the curator of this years meltdown festival at the royal festival hall, they re-created his famous "Black Ark" studio in the lobby and you could re-mix his stuff on a replica - analogue mixer - it was good fun... what a loon, classic borderline genious/madman....he walks round with mirrors and coins on his shoes and wears a crown - occaisionaly adorned with feathers - like the George Clinton of reggae.

Ska came before reggae and roots and dub and ragga but a common thread runs through them all - I saw this band the other day - Los de Abajo, from Mexico city they mix up ska, dub, hip hop and soca with mariachi horns and flamenco - sounds messy but it's blinding and they are Zapatistas aswell....great band..


"Some may I say call me Charlie, the verb is the herb and I smoke like Bob Marley" - Scenario - TCQ

[canikickit]

Lee Perry is the greatest genius in the history of music. I mean that sincirely.
All he's known for now is being crazy, and doing ads for Guinness.

When I tell people I love his music, I have to say: "you know that old wierd guy that was in Guinness ads a few years ago, well, he's my hero".

I should post all my brilliant quotes from him again, but everyone always ignores them.....*cough*

[Danton]

His influence on modern popular and dance music is so underrated, without he and King Tubbys early experiments into dub sounds and effects we would never have had Rave, Jungle, Ragga, even techno and effects ridden house music.....

I think of him as more of a scientist of sound than a musician, and a mad scientist at that, they say too much dub can lead to psyhcosis...of the brain...

CANI: Come on, give us some quotage ..


"DR LEE PHD"

[canikickit]

Seeing as you begged me...

"I discovered that teachers could teach me nothing. I refused to waste my time listening. I go to trees and flowers in the jungle and have them show I what I should know, learn what I should learn. Teach I not to see evil, to hear or speak evil. So that when the evil cry I do not hear."

"I can't be working for money, so I am lazy. If you want me to go work for you, I can't do that, so I was bound to be an entertainer. "

"I once planned the Upsetter band, and the upsetting was so upsetting it upset even I. They want to take over things and they was upset and they become reggae boys and reggae this and reggae that and they become Wailers. "

"I want nothing to do with the name reggae, but whoever love up reggae, I will bless them as they take it. But I want to carry on a future in dub music, I put deadly reggae away for a ransom. I love reggae music still, but the force that they put upon me in the Black Ark studio, I give up the reggae to save my life."

"If I didn't leave Jamaica I would not still be alive. "

"I can be your handyman, but if you are careless I will be a candyman and I will take away your wife, heh heh heh. "

' Do you remember the first time you smoked herb?

"It make me feel real glitzy and I don't know what's happening. I want to say it took me on a trip, a strange trip. And I was no longer on this planet Earth. It take me into space and I want to come out of it. And I get out of it. I afraid of it and I want to say whatever it is, I try it again. But the trip was nice. It teach me wisdom and knowledge and understanding, and put me back on the planet Earth to stand on solid ground."

So it was a revelation?

"And a revolution." '

"What's the difference between Jamaican herb like Lamb's Bread, Goatshit, and so forth?

Sinsemilla. Lamb's Bread. Cannabis. Collie. Marijuana. Tampi. Any name it have it is the same. It just named herbs. The herbs, green herbs. Green collie herbs, green marijuana herbs or green ganja herbs - it's just the green genie you talking about. Yeah, the genie exists and the green ganja collie is the genie. The green genie godeenie! He makes the wind blow, the grass grow. He makes the school bell ring and the people sing. The tree of life - ganja! Hallelujah. Jahovia. Jah Rastafari."

' What was the idea behind the song "Herb Vendor"?

"Me get a message from a different planet to deliver down here to the Earthlings. I extraterrestrial it to the Earthlings. I make it on music so the Earthling can hear this message. (Sings) Dub it Iyah. Dub it Iyah. Yeah, hit the collie. Hit the collie 'til it swell your head now. Do it Iyah, do it Iyah. Yes! "


"When (Chris Blackwell) fight against Roast Fish Collie Weed And Corn Bread, it did create power. What else could I call it but judgement? I couldn't call it justice. If I call it justice I would have killed him instantly. You understand? But that would be against the rules of the cosmic laws. You have the cosmic laws and the cosmic energy. The cosmic energy don't want you to do that because the weather want to watch. And if you spoil the weather's fun and the watcher don't watch 'til the end, the watcher will charge you for spoiling the weather's fun."

"Look, I'm surrounded by people with wasted brain. And when I send out my beam, my scannin' beam, and go into their wasted brain and see no part of the wasted brain that I require, I'm bored! But when I scan the brain and see brain that are not wasted, brain that can be put to work or put to use to bring forward a creation, I would be really interested in it. Then I won't be bored. "

"They are from a poor generation, having no education, no qualification, So, they are driven to desperation, can't get a job, they are being forced to rob, I'm not suggesting that they should, but as you know, a hungry man, is an angry one."
Lee Perry - Set Them Free


Why do you call yourself "Scratch"?
"All things have to start from scratch! So check it out - who am I? If you don't start from scratch, you're in trouble."

"Good evening and greetings to you people of the Universe - this is Lee "Scratch" Perry, the mighty Upsetter, madder than mad, dreader than dread, redder than red, dis ya one heavier than lead. We are here at the turntable terranova, it means we are taking over..."

"When I shit my enemies cry, when I speak they die."

"I am on top. With roots records, double music, dub revolution, black arkology. And I am the black monarchy."

"I am the first scientist to mix the reggae and find out what the reggae really is."

"When I left school there was nothing to do except field work. Hard, hard labour. I didn't fancy that. So I started playing dominoes. Through dominoes I learned to read the minds of others. This has proved eternally useful to me."

"It was only four tracks on the machine, but I was picking up twenty from the extra terrestrial squad."

"Why I am so happy is because the people who want to hear the truth are hearing it. And one of these days all of these record companies are going to kaput, and they are going to be liquidated, and run out of money and run out of good luck and run into bad luck, and that will serve them right for stealing Lee 'Scratch' Perry, sir!"

"I am the Upsetter, and I can put my upsetting power into any musician and they become Upsetters."

"If you look into the alphabet from A - Z, you will see L is for Lee, L is for light, and L is for love, and L is for the Lord. S is for the sky, and S is for shit, and for ships. P is for power and the pyramids, and I am the pyramid and the power."

"This is my brand new song: lightning and thunder, hailstone, brimstone and fire, music, hurricane and tidal wave judgement. Mixed by earthquake, produced by flood."

"I discovered that teachers could teach me nothing. I refused to waste my time listening. I go to trees and flowers in the jungle and have them show I what I should know, learn what I should learn."

"I am bigger than Jamaica!"

"God is black. The black record plastic can prove that to you! Look at the sun when it casts a shadow. That's the spirit. The spirit is black."

"Lee 'Scratch' Perry stand on solid rock while all others stand on sinking sand."

"Well, all those tapes have been stolen from Mr. Perry because they discover that Mr. Perry was creating the African arkology. And if he have the facts of life and the wizzy [wisdom], then why shouldn't we steal it? Pauline decide to poison me and go to Haiti to get the jugs that turn people into zombie. It did not work. It turn me into Superman!"

"I am the internet and I am the winternet. And they don't see nothing yet!"

"I am an alien from the other world, from outer space, I don't have no land, no estate, no property, no house. Not on this earth. I live in space - I'm only a visitor here. Some people are only here to collect property. I am here with my suitcase to collect only the good brains."

"Some people don't believe in the Bible, but I believe in it 'cause I live in the Bible."

"I have a message for the internet! It say: different kind of people, I and I want just one people. And all the people who think they are different, they are no different from the other people because there is only one God, one aim, one destiny."

"Every time the music reach a stop, instead of killing the music, we take the music back to the lab and perform a medical operation and bring the music back in a new generation."

"I am the supreme creator, saying to the people love and truth, it's the key to eternity, so I am asking the people of the Universe to stop stealing, stop telling lies, stop being hypocrites, stop being parasites. That's a special message and a warning."

"The people who I'm throwing my thing at know it's them I'm talking to."

"I'm a man from somewhere else, but my origin is in Africa, stright to Jamaica through reincarnation, reborn in Jamaica. Superman comes to Earth 'cause him sick and tired. I'm not sick and tired because I'm learning what goes on, so when we get frustrated, that is when the music come down by rain drops to support all here with a broken heart and don't know what to do."

"So once it's done, black and white have to appreciate everything in it, 'cause I love black, I love white, I love everyone."

"All people who love my music will be fully supported. They will be protected by my UFO spaceship. Them that don't love my music shall surely perish. They won't have any food, won't have any mood, won't have any good feeling, won't get any healing. Go into the gutter and suffer, won't have any bread or butter, can't find a job, no earning, no money, no honey, no lover. It will be kaput."

"I am an island on the island of the gods, Jamaica, head of the globe."

"Back to the truth, words from the root. Reggae music finish and diminish. Reggae music is a curse. It breed death and hatch cancer, and I Lee 'Scratch' Perry say reggae music is no good. It creates violence, and encourage sin deep from within. It is the evillest music that ever come on the face of the planet Earth."

"This is the voice of the master, laughing in the echo chamber. I repeat: I break the spell and I undo what the wicked have done."

"I am a sexpert! I was born by sex. When you make love and having sex, you make two people into one and out come a baby and make it three in one! The church fight against it, but they all wrong. If there was no sex, we would die and with us would die truth and religion. God loves sex."

"The upsetting was so upsetting that it even upset I."

"And at my shows you could see that all are sold out and they are all white fans. You see few who look like me. If you see ten blacks in my show, then you need glasses, go see your doctor and say "I think I see twenty black people in Lee "Scratch" Perry show", and the doctor will tell you "no, it is not possible".

"The recording studio was my spaceship that was polluted by the dreadlocks in the moonlight."

"I, Pipecock Jackson, Jack Lightning, Jesse The Hammer, Lee 'Scratch' Perry, Daniel Dandelion the Lion, Jah Rastafari the crumbler, the ghost of King Arthur, put a curse on BBC radio and television, and BBC government, that they can never undo until they start playing Mr. Perry records morning, noon, and night, and around the clock - tick tock."

Who taught you the most about music?
"The earth, the air, the water, and the fire."

"I am the half. The half that's never been told."

"Without music you are all dead; with music you are alive. There is nothing music can't do."




King Tubby was a genius too. He made his own pressure-sensitive effects units, and the likes.

[Danton]

Muchas gracias...

At the risk of incurring your furious wrath, I would say some of his material and collabarations in recent years have fallen just a wee tiny tad below his usual high standards....oops


"When I shit my enemies cry, when I speak they die". - DR LEE PHD

[Rastafari]

my favorite is where he names Fats Domino as one of the great dead black musicians. The interviewer says that he is still alive (how the fuck would one know this!?)and Scratch replies by saying that his vibes are still dead though.

[El Brujo]

You like the Congos, CIKI?

[canikickit]

At the risk of incurring your furious wrath, I would say some of his material and collabarations in recent years have fallen just a wee tiny tad below his usual high standards....oops


Of course they have, most of his new stuff is shite.
But I went to his concert on St. Paddy's day this year, and it was super. Nothing could really compare to the peak of the Black Ark days - he'd have to go downhill after that.

I also really enjoy the pre-Black Ark mainly instrumental stuff. Albums like Africa's Blood, Rhythm Shower and Battle Axe are outstanding.


You like the Congos, CIKI?

Yes I do! Their album, the Heart of the Congos, is proably the greatest album in the history of reggae.
I like everything Lee Perry produced in the sixties and seventies.

My favourite of the Scratch quotes below is this one:

"When I left school there was nothing to do except field work. Hard, hard labour. I didn't fancy that. So I started playing dominoes. Through dominoes I learned to read the minds of others. This has proved eternally useful to me."

I've said it elsewhere on the site, this shit is true. I used to play cards a lot in college, after a while you can become very adept at reading people's emotions from their body language and what not.
I also love his lazy attitude, and simplistic explanation:
"This has proved eternally useful to me."

Well, it would, wouldn't it? :wink: