Difference between anarcho-communism, anarcho-collectivism and plain ol' anarchism.

[Vincent P.]

Anyone?

[Jack]

Collectivists plan to maintain the wages system by having people paid according to how many hours they work, but provide care for people who haven't reached maturity.

Communist anarchists beleive in the abolishion of wages and money, and perfer a gift economy.

To be honest, Collectivists don't exist.

[ZeroNowhere]

Collectivists plan to maintain the wages system by having people paid according to how many hours they work, but provide care for people who haven't reached maturity
To be precise, collectivists plan to abolish the wage system, and use a system of labour credits (what amount of things will be free to access, at least up to a point, varies). 'Anarcho-communists' believe in the immediate adoption of a gift economy (rationing may apply). They're both forms of anarchism.

[Vincent P.]

Oh ok! I think it pretty much answered my question. Thanks guy!

[Catbus]

'Anarcho-communists' believe in the immediate adoption of a gift economy

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I've never heard anyone opt for a gift economy directly after a revolution.

And I'm not entirely sure what is ment by "plain ol' anarchism." I think most anarchists you'll find (at least most anarchists I've met) are either communist, collectivist, or syndicalist.

[InTheMatterOfBoots]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I've never heard anyone opt for a gift economy directly after a revolution.


A gift economy is the basic mechanism of distribution for a free commune. This doesn't mean that it cannot be planned or have some form of general co-ordinaton amongst different federalised bodies of workers. The principles would still be the same - mutual aid and a general free exchange of goods according to need.

In terms of the principles of anarchist-communism, I would argue that anything other than an immediate, or partial, adoption of a communist mode of production and exchange between workers during or after the crisis of the capitalist system shouldn't be regarded as revolutionary model (in the true social sense of the term).

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Yeah Jack's right. Collectivists were the people who supported Bakunin and to differenitate between left and right Anarchism. Nowadays all class struggle Anarchists are pretty much all Communists.

[Vincent P.]

And I'm not entirely sure what is ment by "plain ol' anarchism." I think most anarchists you'll find (at least most anarchists I've met) are either communist, collectivist, or syndicalist.
Well now I know. Thx!

[Black Sheep]

plain ol' anarchism
Well if by that you mean the baby anarchism of Proudhon & Stirner then i would propose to stick to the new one.:rolleyes:

[apathy maybe]

Plain old anarchism is simple.

Anti-hierarchy, anti-oppression, pro-freedom. Maximum freedom for everyone, so long as it doesn't interfere with the freedom of others.

How this translates into reality is what distinguishes different types of anarchism (as well as other things).

See also the following stickied threads in Learning
http://www.revleft.com/vb/making-sense-anarchism-t6416/index.html
http://www.revleft.com/vb/revolutionary-left-dictionary-t22628/index.html

And also, a very good thread on "what makes an anarchist".
http://www.revleft.com/vb/makes-anarchist-anarchisti-t24725/index.html?t=24725