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blackstone
7th April 2009, 14:14
PITTSBURGH – The mother of a man charged with killing three Pittsburgh police officers told a 911 dispatcher he had weapons, but the dispatcher didn't relay that information to officers, the official in charge of county dispatchers told a newspaper.
The dispatcher should have asked more questions about the weapons, but didn't, and certainly should have told officers so they could take necessary precautions, Allegheny County Chief of Emergency Services Robert Full told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette for a story Tuesday.
"There is no excuse. It could have been handled better, without a doubt," Full told the newspaper for Tuesday's editions.
Richard Poplawski's mother, Margaret, had dialed 911 to summon police after threatening to evict him.
Unknown to her, she told police, her 23-year-old son was armed and waiting for the police when they arrived Saturday morning. He shot officer Paul Sciullo II, 37, in the home and officer Stephen Mayhle, 29, on the front stoop within seconds of their arrival, and then shot officer Eric Kelly, 41, in the street as he arrived to back them up, prompting a four-hour siege and gun battle with police, authorities said.
Poplawski was wearing a bulletproof vest and was armed with a variety of weapons, including an AK-47 assault rifle, authorities said.
He is also accused of firing into two neighboring homes, injuring nobody, and at nine other police officers, including one who was wounded as he tended to Kelly.
Poplawski's public defender has declined to discuss the case. He is being held without bond and faces an April 17 preliminary hearing on criminal homicide, attempted homicide and other charges.
Full said the dispatcher, who has been on the job less than a year, is on paid administrative leave and is receiving counseling.
In a recording of the call that county officials played for the newspaper, Margaret Poplawski sounded impatient as she called 911 at about 7 a.m. and asked for police to come take her son out of the house.
"Are you moving or what? Or the police gotta come?" she asks.
"Does he have any weapons or anything?" the dispatcher asked.
"Yes," the mother said. After a long pause, she added, "They're all legal."
"OK, but he's not threatening you with anything?" the dispatcher said.
Without answering, Margaret Poplawski mother said, "Look, I'm just waking up from a sleep. I want him gone."
"OK, we'll send 'em over, OK?" the dispatcher said.
"Sounds good," the mother said, as the call ends.
Police union president James Malloy said officers would have responded differently had they known Poplawski had weapons.
"You approach the house with a different attitude. You approach the house from a distance," said Malloy, a retired police sergeant. "You park your car a distance from the house so you can hit the dirt."
The officers will lie in state at the City-County Building downtown on Wednesday before all three will be honored at a memorial service at the Petersen Events Center on the University of Pittsburgh campus on Thursday. The 12,000-seat basketball arena was chosen because authorities expect police and other dignitaries from around the country to attend.
As the city mourned, new information emerged about the suspect from his Internet postings.
Internet rantings found on a white supremacist Web site, *************** (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_re_us/storytext/pittsburgh_shooting/31579130/SIG=10ns8scad/*http://***************), indicate Poplawski was preoccupied with the idea that President Barack Obama was going to overturn the Second Amendment and that Jews were secretly running the country.
He posted a shirtless picture of himself showing off a large tattoo of a spread-winged eagle below his collarbone.
Postings made by others on the extremist Web site after the Pittsburgh shooting encourage people to buy assault rifles because they suspect the arms will be banned after a string of mass shootings in the past month, including one in Oakland, Calif., where four officers were killed and another in Binghamton, N.Y., on Friday when a gunman killed 13 people before killing himself.



http://www.post-gazette.com (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_re_us/storytext/pittsburgh_shooting/31579130/SIG=10t9ct3vh/*http://www.post-gazette.com)

Pirate Utopian
7th April 2009, 14:16
Some dead cops and a dead nazi nutjob.
2 birds, 1 stone?

Communist Theory
7th April 2009, 14:20
Does Pennsylvania have the death penalty?

Rjevan
7th April 2009, 21:18
Does Pennsylvania have the death penalty?
Yes, it has but I read several times that they use it rather racist. I don't know if this is true but if it is he may ge away without death penalty.

StalinFanboy
7th April 2009, 21:54
At least nazis are doing something right.

Psy
8th April 2009, 16:40
Unknown to her, she told police, her 23-year-old son was armed and waiting for the police when they arrived Saturday morning. He shot officer Paul Sciullo II, 37, in the home and officer Stephen Mayhle, 29, on the front stoop within seconds of their arrival, and then shot officer Eric Kelly, 41, in the street as he arrived to back them up, prompting a four-hour siege and gun battle with police, authorities said.

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"Yes," the mother said. After a long pause, she added, "They're all legal."


Wait was this amateur night for the pigs? A known armed suspect and they only send two cops with one more as backup a bit later? Why didn't they call and wait for the state police to surround the house (since they were told he had illegal arms) and back them up and storm the house with a small army of cops?

#FF0000
8th April 2009, 16:48
Does Pennsylvania have the death penalty?

We do. Our cops also drop bombs on people's houses.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_incident)
Still, he's probably getting the death penalty. He killed two cops, afterall.

Pawn Power
8th April 2009, 18:33
But was this act of violence fueled by Glenn Beck (http://www.alternet.org/rights/135592/did_paranoid_right-wing_media_fuel_the_pittsburgh_cop_killer%27s_rage/)?

Stranger Than Paradise
8th April 2009, 18:43
Yes, it has but I read several times that they use it rather racist. I don't know if this is true but if it is he may ge away without death penalty.

Wow, I would have never thought it did. Is the death penalty rare or common in terms of states who have it?

Rjevan
8th April 2009, 21:06
As far as I know there are 38 US states who still have the death penalty and 13 who abolished it. According to Amnesty International 34 people were executed in the USA during the last year but I don't now if any state is especially "worse" compared to others.

Dr.Claw
9th April 2009, 03:47
As far as I know there are 38 US states who still have the death penalty and 13 who abolished it. According to Amnesty International 34 people were executed in the USA during the last year but I don't now if any state is especially "worse" compared to others.
uhhh... texas

blackstone
9th April 2009, 15:31
Wait was this amateur night for the pigs? A known armed suspect and they only send two cops with one more as backup a bit later? Why didn't they call and wait for the state police to surround the house (since they were told he had illegal arms) and back them up and storm the house with a small army of cops?

Thats the issue, the dispatcher didn't INFORM the police that the suspect was armed. If the police dispatched to the scene would have known that information, they would have taken proper precaution.

rebelworker
9th April 2009, 16:42
At least nazis are doing something right.

Ok I grew up being fucked with by cops, and have a healthy level of distrust and anger towards them, but how is it at all usefull to kill cops.

The majority of Cops come from working class backgrounds, and are in a way victims of a failed system.

Its true there are tonnes of guys who join the force for all the wrong reasons, but there are also many who join because the genuinely want to held keep people safe.

Now i dont need to be lectured about how racist, classist ect the "justice" system is. The point is that people who grow up in a fucked up system are going to be fucked up.

Now individuals need to be help accountable for their actions, and in periods of social change cops need to decide "which side they are on" but shooting individual cops in their day to day work isnt revolutionary.

I have pitty for Neo Nazis, because ultimately they are just mislead, poorly eductaed people who have no real power in their lives. As someone who spends far too much time dealing with them and their bullshit behavior I still have room in my heart to hope to change them so that one day we can all live in a world where people dont grow up filled with Rage that turns into hate and bigotry.

Again, Ive had my fair share of confrontations with pigs but I think at least on a day to day basis we need to humanize them. At least to the point where we dont think they should be indiscriminantly shot.

As Che said, "A true revolutionary is guided by feelings of Love" or some such thing.

blackstone
9th April 2009, 17:47
**DISTRIBUTE**

Public statement on the recent Pittsburgh police killings by the
Greater Pittsburgh Anarchist Collective - gpacATTACK.org

Much has been said of the recent shootings in Pittsburgh involving a
supposed white supremacist that resulted in the deaths of 3 police
officers. We would like to provide information on the ideology of
Richard Poplawski and his friends and to also express our anger at the
hypocrisy of the media regarding the recent events.



On Richard Poplawski, Edward Perkovic, and right-wing white supremacy

Richard Poplawski is a 22-year old Pittsburgh man accused in the
shooting of 3 police officers in his Stanton Heights home. The day of
the shootings his self-described best friend Edward Perkovic appeared
on TV, talking of zionist control of the federal government and
Obama's supposed plans to "take our guns away". This was an obvious
red flag that led us to look deeper into the background of these
people.



It turns out that Richard Poplawski was a member of Stormfront, an
online forum for white supremacists to gather and discuss their racist
views. Despite statements to the contrary by friends Edward Perkovic
(more on this budding white supremacist later) and Aaron Vire (who
happens to be black), his frequent posting on a message board whose
slogan is "White Pride World Wide" would suggest Poplawski strongly
sympathized with white supremacist right-wing ideology. In one
posting, he commented on Black, Asian, and Latina women: "Don't mix
your blood with dirt, son.". In other posts, he rants against the
"Zionist Occupied Government", a codeword invented by Anti-Semites and
other Neo-Nazis who hide their racism behind legitimate anti-Zionism.



Edward Perkovic (resident of Lawrenceville, employee of Children's
Hospital of Pittsburgh) also states in a KDKA interview very clearly
"I am not a racist." This comes conveniently after he wiped his
Myspace and Facebook of racist rantings against Jews and promoted
writings by David Duke, a former grandwizard of the Ku Klux Klan. It
seems he knew that everyone would be scrutinizing his beliefs after
the shootings, and tried to beat us to the punch. Luckily, we're
quicker than him. To quote Perkovic, "I must point out the dangers
of...mixed bloodlines that will erase national identity (deemed not to
be appropriate in today's America, but I assure you, your nationality
is something you should be proud of, NOT ERASE).

"

Perkovic goes on to list books he would like you to read:

"The Turner Diaries" by Dr.

William Pierce

The Turner Diaries are a book depicting a violent revolution in which
white people would exterminate all People of Color and Jews off the
face of the planet. It is an extremist white power manifesto, and has
inspired such people as Timothy McVeigh who bombed the Murrah Federal
Building in Oklahoma City. Timothy McVeigh was tied to the right-wing
militia movement, groups whose propaganda Poplawski and Perkovic both
espouse repeatedly.



"Jewish Supremacism" by Dr.

David Duke

Jewish Supremacism is a book published in 2003 by former grand wizard
of the KKK David Duke. This book promotes the anti-Semitic notion that
Jews are engaged in a Jewish-Supremacist conspiracy.



Both Perkovic and Poplawski have been influenced by racist right-wing
fear mongering that has become more prevalent since Obama took power
early this year. They have both openly subscribed to white supremacist
beliefs held widely by those in the Neo-Nazi and right-wing movements.
Both have tried to hide their racism behind conspiracy theorists and
nutjobs such as Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh, but anyone with a brain
can see past their lies, no matter how much they try to act like
regular old Pens-loving yinzers.



Both of their views are those of politically under-developed neo-Nazi
or pro-American right-wing fascist thought processes. There is no
evidence (so far) that either of these two are involved in any
organized white supremacist groups. Poplawski has claimed on
Stormfront that in the near future he would "up the activism." It
seems his activism is going to be confined to death row in the State
Prison in Greene County.



On media racism, classism, and downright hypocrisy

It was October 12th, 1995. Johnny Gammage was driving down Rt. 51 when
he was pulled over by a gang of white officers. They beat him with
flashlights and proceeded to murder him by kneeling on his back until
he suffocated to death. All officers were let off by racist white
juries (yet we still call foul when people refer to Western
Pennsylvanians as having racist sentiments).



Fast forward to Christmas Eve, 2002. 12 year old Michael Ellerbe lay
face down on the pavement dying of a gunshot wound to the back
inflicted by a police officer in Uniontown. 7 years later, in 2009,
Samuel Nassan, the same cop who shamelessly murdered the 12 year old
boy, unloaded his clip into a moving car in the South Side killing
Nicholas Haniotakis, 33 years old.



On January 8th of this year police shot and killed Lamar Smith in
North Point Breeze, and then on February 3rd they shot Paul Palmer to
death on the North Side. Where are the black ribbons for the people
that the police have routinely and systematically victimized? They
have no front page tributes; their stories are shuffled into the
middle of section C. The night after Richard Poplawski shot and killed
three Pittsburgh police officers, members of that same department
burst into a party in Bloomfield assaulting several attendees,
including a young woman who was beaten and a man who was punched in
the face until he was knocked unconscious.



The bias in the media is clear regarding these events. The media
serves a purpose that is also served by the police, to protect the
state and capitalism. The media serves to glorify members of the
police force whose routine murders of innocent unarmed people go
unmentioned while they get processions, memorial services, and
full-page tributes in the papers.



When all the dust settles, when all of the black ribbons on the
telephone poles fade, when the Stanton Heights home of Margaret
Poplawski is abandoned and boarded up, those police who people
glorified and stood by when three of their co-workers were gunned down
still won't think twice about cracking your skull open with a baton.
They still won't think twice about murdering unarmed black children or
unarmed poor white people. We still remember all those times we've
been brutalized, and we won't ever forget it. We most certainly will
not forgive it.



Greater Pittsburgh Anarchist Collective
Anti-Racist Action Network
[email protected]
gpacATTACK.org

StalinFanboy
9th April 2009, 19:10
Ok I grew up being fucked with by cops, and have a healthy level of distrust and anger towards them, but how is it at all usefull to kill cops.

The majority of Cops come from working class backgrounds, and are in a way victims of a failed system.

Its true there are tonnes of guys who join the force for all the wrong reasons, but there are also many who join because the genuinely want to held keep people safe.

Now i dont need to be lectured about how racist, classist ect the "justice" system is. The point is that people who grow up in a fucked up system are going to be fucked up.

Now individuals need to be help accountable for their actions, and in periods of social change cops need to decide "which side they are on" but shooting individual cops in their day to day work isnt revolutionary.

I have pitty for Neo Nazis, because ultimately they are just mislead, poorly eductaed people who have no real power in their lives. As someone who spends far too much time dealing with them and their bullshit behavior I still have room in my heart to hope to change them so that one day we can all live in a world where people dont grow up filled with Rage that turns into hate and bigotry.

Again, Ive had my fair share of confrontations with pigs but I think at least on a day to day basis we need to humanize them. At least to the point where we dont think they should be indiscriminantly shot.

As Che said, "A true revolutionary is guided by feelings of Love" or some such thing.

A little clarification of my post. It was not entirely serious. I do not think that we should be running around killing cops. Having said that, I do not like police, or nazis, and their class background has little relevance to me. Just because someone is working class does not make them my comrade. Police and Nazis are both class traitors, and I think it's naive to say that they are mislead. Sure there are always going to be members of fascist groups and the police that actually are mislead and are decent people, but they are a very small minority.

I'm not saying that killing cops is inherently revolutionary, but does anyone here actually think that cops and Nazis won't be killed in a revolutionary situation?

TheCultofAbeLincoln
10th April 2009, 03:26
As far as I know there are 38 US states who still have the death penalty and 13 who abolished it. According to Amnesty International 34 people were executed in the USA during the last year but I don't now if any state is especially "worse" compared to others.

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/7644/texas1lt.jpg

Seriously, this guy may get it because he shot some cops and, let's face it, saying you did so because you believe they are vassals of the Zionist Occupied Government is not going to help.

StalinFanboy
10th April 2009, 05:41
People from Texas like to joke that they have an "express lane" for death row inmates. They are such a quaint people.

Psy
10th April 2009, 16:03
A little clarification of my post. It was not entirely serious. I do not think that we should be running around killing cops. Having said that, I do not like police, or nazis, and their class background has little relevance to me. Just because someone is working class does not make them my comrade. Police and Nazis are both class traitors, and I think it's naive to say that they are mislead. Sure there are always going to be members of fascist groups and the police that actually are mislead and are decent people, but they are a very small minority.

I'm not saying that killing cops is inherently revolutionary, but does anyone here actually think that cops and Nazis won't be killed in a revolutionary situation?

Yet killing police in itself is pointless as another person will take their place, the reason why it is not pointless in revolutions is because all of a sudden you are talking about denying access to police and the revolutionary forces act as a lethal barrier preventing the police from reoccupying the territory liberated by the workers.